DMT Vape Carts

[psychonaught28]

I'm sure somebody around here has some experience with DMT Vape Pens. For those who are into psychedelics, they seem popular.

I have never personally tried the vape pen method myself, I've only ever blasted off and broken through with extracted NN-DMT crystals in a GVG.

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(Moderator NOTED. This was not my intention; I was simply asking for info and experiences with them)


I had a few questions for the vape pen experienced...

1. Are they worth my time?
2. Do these at all compare to extracted DMT of any strain?
3. Can you break through with one of these?
4. Is the experience out of a vape pen anything like extracted DMT?
5. Any warnings to go along with these or this method?
6. Does anyone have an experience they would be willing to share?

 

[Transform]

The main thing is, unless you've filled them yourself, you can't be entirely sure of what's in them. On that ground alone, I can't say I'm in favour of them. There is at least one record of fentanyl contamination in 5-MeO-DMT carts.

That said, I once accepted a go on a purported N,N-DMT cart and the effects were mild but smooth with one hit and appeared to correspond with the described contents. Ten minutes of intriguing OEVs including fixed-in-place 'energetic geoglyphs' that would maintain their form and position as I walked around. Or rather, as I walked to a toilet since it also had a stimulating effect on my bowels. That's not wholly unexpected, since serotonin is an important neurotransmitter in those parts of the body as well.

If one was to obtain an empty cart, it would not be all that difficult to formulate a reliable e-juice for use with it.

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[Koduckushi]

They scare me, but thats just for the reason Transform mentions. I'm terrified of getting something with extra adulteratants or contaminants.

I've made some juice in the past, and it does work well enough for my liking. Dosage was easy to control, but thats also another unknown factor if you're getting them from an external source.

Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I'm an overly cautious guy when it comes to ingesting illegal substances.

I would say if you know the source for these carts, and can trust you're getting exactly what you are expecting, go for it.

To answer some of your questions:

Most of these are dependant on personal preference and potency (which, as mentioned above, is difficult to guarantee if you don't make them yourself or trust their maker.)

I have no idea if there are strains of nn-dmt, unless we're talking about the various chemical formation of dmt, e.g. 5-meo-dmt. But they should all give relatively similar consistent experiences provided they're the chemical makeup of the compound you're wanting to partake in.

Breakthroughs are definitely possible, but the ease of doing so depends on potency of the juice itself.

My experience with juice I've made is identical to my extracted nn-dmt with a gvg. Identical being a relative term, as these experiences are all wildly different anyway. That being said, you can get slight flavor additives, and that can aid in the taste of the vapor if thats something you're into.

Personally I think they're a pretty relaxed method of ingestion. Worries of dealing with a hot lighter/torch/pipe while blasting off aren't a concern when using a cart. My only real dislike of carts as a from of ingestion (other than the obvious fears mentioned above) is that it takes away from the "ritual" of weighing and loading it into a device with the singular purpose to launch. To me, that's an important part of the experience, but that may not matter at all for you.

 

[Loveall]

Make them yourself to know what you have! The thread that Transform linked has ratios our community has used (see Research - DMT salts for e-juice)

We do not discuss purchasing anything outside of natural seeds/plants. We do not support comercial manufacturing for profit. Those activities are against the site rules for many good reasons (both for practical safety and because of basic morality).

 

[Loveall]

They scare me, but thats just for the reason Transform mentions. I'm terrified of getting something with extra adulteratants or contaminants.

I've made some juice in the past, and it does work well enough for my liking. Dosage was easy to control, but thats also another unknown factor if you're getting them from an external source.

Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I'm an overly cautious guy when it comes to ingesting illegal substances.

I would say if you know the source for these carts, and can trust you're getting exactly what you are expecting, go for it.

To answer some of your questions:

Most of these are dependant on personal preference and potency (which, as mentioned above, is difficult to guarantee if you don't make them yourself or trust their maker.)

I have no idea if there are strains of nn-dmt, unless we're talking about the various chemical formation of dmt, e.g. 5-meo-dmt. But they should all give relatively similar consistent experiences provided they're the chemical makeup of the compound you're wanting to partake in.

Breakthroughs are definitely possible, but the ease of doing so depends on potency of the juice itself.

My experience with juice I've made is identical to my extracted nn-dmt with a gvg. Identical being a relative term, as these experiences are all wildly different anyway. That being said, you can get slight flavor additives, and that can aid in the taste of the vapor if thats something you're into.

Personally I think they're a pretty relaxed method of ingestion. Worries of dealing with a hot lighter/torch/pipe while blasting off aren't a concern when using a cart. My only real dislike of carts as a from of ingestion (other than the obvious fears mentioned above) is that it takes away from the "ritual" of weighing and loading it into a device with the singular purpose to launch. To me, that's an important part of the experience, but that may not matter at all for you.

We have learned to use dmt salts in our carts. They have many advantages.

Research - DMT salts for e-juice

Hi, having read this thread a lot, and currently experimenting, here some anectdotal findings and infos on my side. suggestion: When experimenting, I suggest people to use rebuildable "dripper" atomizers: those ones have usually a lower-capacity tank, and the coil is easily accessible from the...

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[stinkyfish]

Not a fan of the carts. It is best to use your own extracted dmt.

 

[Loveall]

Not a fan of the carts. It is best to use your own extracted dmt.

I dont understand your comment. This work is to make carts WITH your own extracted DMT.

I've smelled comercial carts. They are horrible. One vendor clearly had used excessively hot naphtha and a lot of lye, a situation that pulls red stinky plant oils.

 

[stinkyfish]

I dont understand your comment. This work is to make carts WITH your own extracted DMT.

I've smelled comercial carts. They are horrible. One vendor clearly had used excessively hot naphtha and a lot of lye, a situation that pulls red stinky plant oils.

The man who started the post said he could get carts. Just said noy a fan of the bought carts? Don't understand your reply

 

[Loveall]

The man who started the post said he could get carts. Just said noy a fan of the bought carts? Don't understand your reply

Ok, I misunderstood. I thought you saw the rest of the content in the the thread, where we state that carts should be only made with your extracted DMT. They go from a liability to an amazing ROI in my experience.

Assuming you were responding to the first post, and not aware that your own extracted DMT can be easily turned into an amazing cart, then your comment makes sense.

 

[psychonaught28]

*Let me start off by apologizing for breaking a rule. I did not realize that one of the comments I made would fall under the "sourcing" category but after reading what I said, I understand how that could have been misinterpreted. This was never my intention and I will proceed with caution in how I word things when posting or creating a thread. I have also edited the post. My sincere apologies ladies, gentlemen and especially to the moderators. I didn't mean to upset everyone. It was unintentional.

The main thing is, unless you've filled them yourself, you can't be entirely sure of what's in them. On that ground alone, I can't say I'm in favour of them. There is at least one record of fentanyl contamination in 5-MeO-DMT carts.

That said, I once accepted a go on a purported N,N-DMT cart and the effects were mild but smooth with one hit and appeared to correspond with the described contents. Ten minutes of intriguing OEVs including fixed-in-place 'energetic geoglyphs' that would maintain their form and position as I walked around. Or rather, as I walked to a toilet since it also had a stimulating effect on my bowels. That's not wholly unexpected, since serotonin is an important neurotransmitter in those parts of the body as well.

If one was to obtain an empty cart, it would not be all that difficult to formulate a reliable e-juice for use with it.

Search

forum.dmt-nexus.me

This is one of my biggest fears: a tainted cart. I guess there's only one way around that and it would be...extracted DMT. No big deal. I was really just curious of others' experiences and should've just known from the jump to not tread into unsure waters with a cart if you know what I mean. The cleanest, most pure way to go is the extraction route. I guess making your own cart could be a nice route as well. Sometimes, especially with past experiences, I just have a concern that without a sitter something bad could happen. Cause we are talking about glass, torches and hot objects here, lol. I find it nice to have a helper.

They scare me, but thats just for the reason Transform mentions. I'm terrified of getting something with extra adulteratants or contaminants.

I've made some juice in the past, and it does work well enough for my liking. Dosage was easy to control, but thats also another unknown factor if you're getting them from an external source.

Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I'm an overly cautious guy when it comes to ingesting illegal substances.

I would say if you know the source for these carts, and can trust you're getting exactly what you are expecting, go for it.

To answer some of your questions:

Most of these are dependant on personal preference and potency (which, as mentioned above, is difficult to guarantee if you don't make them yourself or trust their maker.)

I have no idea if there are strains of nn-dmt, unless we're talking about the various chemical formation of dmt, e.g. 5-meo-dmt. But they should all give relatively similar consistent experiences provided they're the chemical makeup of the compound you're wanting to partake in.

Breakthroughs are definitely possible, but the ease of doing so depends on potency of the juice itself.

My experience with juice I've made is identical to my extracted nn-dmt with a gvg. Identical being a relative term, as these experiences are all wildly different anyway. That being said, you can get slight flavor additives, and that can aid in the taste of the vapor if thats something you're into.

Personally I think they're a pretty relaxed method of ingestion. Worries of dealing with a hot lighter/torch/pipe while blasting off aren't a concern when using a cart. My only real dislike of carts as a from of ingestion (other than the obvious fears mentioned above) is that it takes away from the "ritual" of weighing and loading it into a device with the singular purpose to launch. To me, that's an important part of the experience, but that May not matter for you at all.

Thank you for your input and for answering questions. I did mention to Transform that one of my concerns was exactly what you mentioned; hot objects, lol. That could always pose a little issue if not careful.

Make them yourself to know what you have! The thread that Transform linked has ratios our community has used (see Research - DMT salts for e-juice)

We do not discuss purchasing anything outside of natural seeds/plants. We do not support comercial manufacturing for profit. Those activities are against the site rules for many good reasons (both for practical safety and because of basic morality).

Again, I apologize (for the 3rd time) about the mistake I made. I will be more cautious in my wording of future threads, this one has been edited to line it back up within the rules.
Thanks.

 

[Loveall]

1. Are they worth my time?
2. Do these at all compare to extracted DMT of any strain?
3. Can you break through with one of these?
4. Is the experience out of a vape pen anything like extracted DMT?
5. Any warnings to go along with these or this method?
6. Does anyone have an experience they would be willing to share?

My experience:

1. Yes
2. No, they are smoother because carts allow pH adjustments by adding an organic acid such as citric acid.
3. Yes. You can also precisely measure dose inhaled per 10s hit (standard auto shut off) by measuring the cart delta weight on a mg scale.
4. Hard to answer. Yes to first order.
5. Yes, beyond the usual DMT warnings, add the warnings that come with nicotine salts vaping and boost them a bit since we run at higher concentration than nicotine salts. I have had no issues and have been using them.
6. Sure, they are amazing. Personally, I'm never gonna deal with an alkaline cloud emanating from a hot flame ever again. Also, it pairs amazingly with sublingual harmalas to surf hyperspace gently. Thankful to not have to handle the logistics of a flame and just chill with autodraw. Also, stealth factor is off the charts if you want a few mg while dancing at a dj set with your tribe.

One "downside" is that you need to make pure dmt. Impurities will not be obliterated by the flame and may clog the cart. Impurities or oligomerized dmt may make the juice very thick. If needed, improve your extraction technique since electronic devices are more sensitive than old school brute force flame.

 

[psychonaught28]

My experience:

1. Yes
2. No, they are smoother because carts allow pH adjustments by adding an organic acid such as citric acid.
3. Yes. You can also precisely measure dose inhaled per 10s hit (standard auto shut off) by measuring the cart delta weight on a mg scale.
4. Hard to answer. Yes to first order.
5. Yes, beyond the usual DMT warnings, add the warnings that come with nicotine salts vaping and boost them a bit since we run at higher concentration than nicotine salts. I have had no issues and have been using them.
6. Sure, they are amazing. Personally, I'm never gonna deal with an alkaline cloud emanating from a hot flame ever again. Also, it pairs amazingly with sublingual harmalas to surf hyperspace gently. Thankful to not have to handle the logistics of a flame and just chill with autodraw.

Thank you very much, for returning to this thread with your own experiences. This was very informative and straight to the point. Very descriptive too, which I also appreciate.
Very kind of you.


-Psychonaut