DMT VAPE, how to breakthrough?

[rehm]

I have a DMT vape, when I take hits (I hold in for 10 seconds) and inhale, I start to see cinematic visuals. Everything looks too "real", Idk how else to put it.

There were a few times where I felt like I was breaking through, I'd stare blankly at the wall and felt like I was gonna teleport somewhere, but it never happened.

I also took it at a park and the trees looked different, almost like a rendered video game graphics or smth? was very cool.

I also noticed that everything became silent, I could hear a pin drop, just eerily silent.

When I hear people seeing entities and shit, I'm assuming they smoked the powder which is much more potent, I also heard of people seeing crazy patterns and shit but I never did.

Perhaps I need to take a fuck ton of hits? I hear people breakthrough in only a couple though.

 

[fink]

What you are describing sounds like a low dose threshold experience.

One answer is to take more.

A more prudent approach might be to ask questions.

• did you acquire from a trusted or unknown source, or did you extract yourself?

• do you know the exact strength of the vape juice?

• do you have previous experience with another psychedelic to give you a ball park idea of your tolerance?

If you dont know exactly what you are taking it becomes quite difficult to say what you should do next.

 

[rehm]

I have done 5 tabs of LSD once before (stupid,.I know) and had a psychotic episode. That was my only experience with psychedelics, ever.

I ordered this DMT vape off the DN, no clue what's in it. I'm just getting a buzz, seeing cinematic visuals, then it all goes away withinn5 minutes, very short high.

I guess I'll take as much as i can tonight and see.

 

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I have done 5 tabs of LSD once before (stupid,.I know)

No, not really. Assuming "5 tabs" is around 500ug (likely less) it's a high dose but nothing inherently dangerous or extreme. It may very well result in an overwhelming or scary experience, but that dose in itself is not reckless.

and had a psychotic episode

What do you mean by psychotic? How would you describe it?
If you had psychosis from a single LSD dose, you should be careful and consider whether it's wise to expose yourself to that risk again. Psychedelics are known to trigger psychosis in people predisposed to it.

 

[premeditated]

I have a DMT vape, when I take hits (I hold in for 10 seconds) and inhale, I start to see cinematic visuals. Everything looks too "real", Idk how else to put it.

There were a few times where I felt like I was breaking through, I'd stare blankly at the wall and felt like I was gonna teleport somewhere, but it never happened.

I also took it at a park and the trees looked different, almost like a rendered video game graphics or smth? was very cool.

I also noticed that everything became silent, I could hear a pin drop, just eerily silent.

When I hear people seeing entities and shit, I'm assuming they smoked the powder which is much more potent, I also heard of people seeing crazy patterns and shit but I never did.

Perhaps I need to take a fuck ton of hits? I hear people breakthrough in only a couple though.teall

After low dose experiences you should start to get an understanding of how strong it is. My vape would take 5 big hits holding them in to breakthrough

 

[rehm]

No, not really. Assuming "5 tabs" is around 500ug (likely less) it's a high dose but nothing inherently dangerous or extreme. It may very well result in an overwhelming or scary experience, but that dose in itself is not reckless.

What do you mean by psychotic? How would you describe it?
If you had psychosis from a single LSD dose, you should be careful and consider whether it's wise to expose yourself to that risk again. Psychedelics are known to trigger psychosis in people predisposed to it.

You are correct yes, it was around 550ug, I also do want to add, I swallowed 10 xtc pills the night before, I guess that depleted my brain of whatever "feel good" chemicals there were left, so yea, a recipe for disaster.

I don't want to go into full details about the episode I had, but, it wasn't like what most people say they experienced with a bad trip. That bad trip I had was deeply personal. It was about what my life could've looked like, me being a failure, not having anyone like me, negative experiences in school, work etc. I saw a very ugly/disgusting version of myself. I had very very negative views about myself and unfortunately, some of that stuff stuck with me.

It did open my eyes about ego and how people have warped perceptions of themselves to better cope with the scary reality that they aren't so special or even worse, a very negative/real view of themselves. It kinda reminded me of this one video where people are shown an inverted mirror and you can see ego death in real time, their whole world turns upside down when they see this "ugly" version of themselves. I attached a link below, one woman even cried at the sight of herself, for me it was 100x worse.

I kinda went into psychosis where I thought I had found some "secret" to be successful, I went and told my family to take LSD to discover this "secret", it was immensely embarrassing,.I then went and started cursing at them and said I was gonna kill myself, police and ambulance came. Overall, it was the worst experience of my life. I thought I was gonna be homeless, then I thought I was gonna go to hell. But yeah, that was it.


I'm actually high on DMT as I'm typing this, I took a lot more hits and I assume since its warmer here in the UK, a lot of the DMT got decrystalised.

I purposefully did not want to breakthrough because family are at home, would've caused massive issues...

Was much much cooler, room looked wobbly, I saw some patterns, my hands looked weird? alien-like. There's noting better describe the whole experience as "alien" or otherworldly.

I guess I'll try to breakthrough when nobody is home lol.

 

[premeditated]

Or maybe get two devices with your 510 vape carts and hit them at the same time

 

[blig-blug]

Did that experience last beyond the effects of LSD? Longer than 16 hours? If not, it's unlikely to be psychosis. If yes, you really should consider avoiding psychedelics from now on.

What are you looking to get from these experiences? What's your end goal with it?

 

[rehm]

Did that experience last beyond the effects of LSD? Longer than 16 hours?

No, the part of me being homeless and going to hell? nah. Some stuff stuck with me, I guess those were thoughts i already had and LSD just made it more real to me.

As for psychedelics, I don't have a goal in mind. I just love drugs lol.

 

[blig-blug]

By the way.

I swallowed 10 xtc pills the night before

Doing this is a fast ticket to overdose. If you really took 10 MDMA (were they tested?) pills of unknown dosage without needing medical attention you can count yourself lucky that they were dosed low. That is reckless and is not an attitude that will find support here. Knowing your substance and your dose is really a must and a basic for safety.

 

[rehm]

By the way.

Doing this is a fast ticket to overdose. If you really took 10 MDMA (were they tested?) pills of unknown dosage without needing medical attention you can count yourself lucky that they were dosed low. That is reckless and is not an attitude that will find support here. Knowing your substance and your dose is really a must and a basic for safety.

It was low dosed. I swallowed 3, had barely any effects. The pills weren't pressed properly and they were tiny. I swallowed another 2,. I felt a little euphoria but nothing much. I then swallowed the rest of the bag which were broken bits.

I'm guessing each pill was 80mg or something. After I swallowed the rest I had the hardest roll ever, euphoria was the best I ever had, music sounded god-like. It was the best high I ever had. When it wore off, I was stuttering and couldn't utter a sentence properly. It was stupid I know, the comedown wasn't even nearly as bad as I used to have.

 

[blig-blug]

It was low dosed. I swallowed 3, had barely any effects. The pills weren't pressed properly and they were tiny. I swallowed another 2,. I felt a little euphoria but nothing much. I then swallowed the rest of the bag which were broken bits.

Okay. If you waited enough time then it's not as reckless. There is a focus on harm reduction here, so it's important to either make clear that the use was not reckless (e.g. making clear that you didn't take 10 pills of an unknown substance and dose all at once) or make clear that it was and you have learned from it.

 

[rehm]

Okay. If you waited enough time then it's not as reckless. There is a focus on harm reduction here, so it's important to either make clear that the use was not reckless (e.g. making clear that you didn't take 10 pills of an unknown substance and dose all at once) or make clear that it was and you have learned from it.

I also used magnesium citrate, glutathione and vitamin C to reduce neurotoxicity straight after.

 

[premeditated]

No, the part of me being homeless and going to hell? nah. Some stuff stuck with me, I guess those were thoughts i already had and LSD just made it more real to me.

As for psychedelics, I don't have a goal in mind. I just love drugs lol.

I can't classify dmt as a drug. I've never done a substance that doesn't mess with your cognitive abilities. From my crazy past the higher I've gotten the worst the comedown was. Nothing frightens me more than thinking about withdrawal and recovery. Dmt amazes me that it doesn't require hours or days of recovery

 

[fink]

But DMT could take hours or decades to intergrate any sort of normal life. At least with mdma you only have to get through 2 days of wondering what the point of living is. DMT can have you for life even if you never smoke it again.

 

[rehm]

I can't classify dmt as a drug. I've never done a substance that doesn't mess with your cognitive abilities. From my crazy past the higher I've gotten the worst the comedown was. Nothing frightens me more than thinking about withdrawal and recovery. Dmt amazes me that it doesn't require hours or days of recovery

yep I experienced zero comedown but I do get those brain zaps that I got with MDMA, perhaps it's my anxiety

 

[premeditated]

yep I experienced zero comedown but I do get those brain zaps that I got with MDMA, perhaps it's my anxiety

Explain please?

 

[premeditated]

But DMT could take hours or decades to intergrate any sort of normal life. At least with mdma you only have to get through 2 days of wondering what the point of living is. DMT can have you for life even if you never smoke it again.

My first time with mdma at 18 was the most profound experience of my life. I was in intense super intense closed eye visuals for 8 hours .

 

[rehm]

Explain please?

I thought it was pretty common, i heard many speak about it. I'd get these random brain zaps, sometimes ringing in the ears like tinnitus or smth. I barely got them on DMT but when I use a lot of MDMA it happens a LOT. Sometimes I'd run out if breath too, like i got zapped with electricity or smth.

 

[premeditated]

I thought it was pretty common, i heard many speak about it. I'd get these random brain zaps, sometimes ringing in the ears like tinnitus or smth. I barely got them on DMT but when I use a lot of MDMA it happens a LOT. Sometimes I'd run out if breath too, like i got zapped with electricity or smth.

Not proud but I got a regrettably bad past with substances and can't recall that. Maybe I gotta think about it more