DMT vaping guide

[Propello]

I think those small batteries give more power when fully charged.
Just wonder which ccell cartridges You use, Can You provide a link or image?

Thanks for the info kable, and congrats with the promotion

Blessings

 

[Propello]

Aum shanti:

No wonder i had troubles with the tc, just discovered i used The vandyvape ni80 100 mesh

Anyway, i tried with another mod where i Can set TCR manually, so i set IT at 1.09.
Temp at 220 C / 428F
Max 30 W

Blasted off in one toke, 30 mg.
No leftovers on mesh after landing.

Will get some of the vandyvape MESH ss316 150 size Next.

But this setup is just fantastic. Thx again aum shanti

Blessings

 

[Aum_Shanti]

No wonder i had troubles with the tc, just discovered i used The vandyvape ni80 100 mesh

Lol, that explains a lot why it didn't work in TCSS mode...

Anyway, i tried with another mod where i Can set TCR manually, so i set IT at 1.09.
Temp at 220 C / 428F
Max 30 W

Blasted off in one toke, 30 mg.
No leftovers on mesh after landing.

Now we are talking. That sounds, like it should now...

But as you know this now, it should also work with your original mod, if you set it to TCNi instead of TCSS.

Will get some of the vandyvape MESH ss316 150 size Next.

Honestly, if you only vape such small amounts, and are fine with this setup, I would stay with your Ni mesh. Why? Because IMHO it's better to have a coarser mesh size, as it can hold more substance in it. If you don't mind the handling of Ni mesh, and don't get upset by any eventual Ni smell, I would stay with your setup.

But this setup is just fantastic. Thx again aum shanti

Glad I could help.

 

[Propello]

Honestly, if you only vape such small amounts, and are fine with this setup, I would stay with your Ni mesh. Why? Because IMHO it's better to have a coarser mesh size, as it can hold more substance in it. If you don't mind the handling of Ni mesh, and don't get upset by any eventual Ni smell, I would stay with your setup.

But this setup is just fantastic. Thx again aum shanti

Glad I could help.

The ni80 / nichrome isn't made for tc, that would be ni200/ nickel, hence The troubles with tc. But IT works anyway with manual tcr mode.

I don't agree about The mesh size though. Finer mesh should in theory have larger surface and smaller Holes than coarser mesh. When The spice liquify there should be less spice falling through The mesh, and IT should evaporate faster with larger surface area as well. I look at the mesh as The heating element with 2 functions: holding The spice in place in crystal and liquid state, and heating The spice to evap.

In theory The finer mesh should be better suited for this than coarser mesh, but i could of course be wrong.

Perhaps You Can elaborate why You consider coarser mesh as better? Am i missing something here?

Blessings

 

[Aum_Shanti]

I don't agree about The mesh size though. Finer mesh should in theory have larger surface and smaller Holes than coarser mesh.

You have to think 3 dimensional

A coarser mesh is thicker, and the thickness is one dimension of storage and evaporation! A super fine mesh has basically no thickness, and therefore no storage volume.

But the ideal mesh size depends also on the viscosity of your substance. The mesh holes shouldn't be as big, so that the cohesion force cannot hold it anymore. And if it's too fine, it can only hold so little volume of substance, that the remaining substance will flow along the surface to the bottom.

Also the coarser your mesh, the more thermal mass (usually bad), and less resistance (good), which are also two major key points.

So as said, the ideal mesh grid size is IMHO clearly always depending on the substance you wanna vape. But from my experience, you rather wanna stay in the coarser region. E.g. I usually use a rougher mesh than the roughest vandyvape SS316 one.

So that's why I said, if it works in this setup for you, I don't see the need to change it.

 

[Propello]

Think i get your setup aum shanti. But for me my own setup is oerfect. I don't plan to vape more than 50mg anyway. If it works don't fix it 8)


I'll test The ss316 0.9 ohm 150 mesh when i get it. It is Even finer than The 100 mesh i use now. Will report when tested.

Blessings

 

[some one]

I just tested the VandyVape Mesh RDA..

So, I just used the device. I aimed for a small test dose of around 20mg. Used 200c and 35w. Got all in within 10 seconds.

WOW! OMG! So easy. No taste. One hit. So strong for 20mg! Total awe. I'm trashing all my other devices. dmt-nexus, delete all smoking forums, we found the holy grail!

source

Setup:

Joytech eVic VTwo Mini 75W
VandyVape Mesh RDA
VandyVape SS316L 150 mesh 40x13mm
Glass adapter

Airhole 1/3 open
@ 200c and 35w

Like I said: wow

 

[tomcards]

Hi guys,

I'm a new member of this forum. I'm a 59 year old psychotherapist, with extensive experience with psychedelics. I've never used a vape pen to smoke DMT, or anything else. I bought Yocan's Magento, as my dedicated pipe, but I'm unclear on how to use it.

I know that it's recommended to dump the product into the chamber; heat it until it melts, and then vape it. My questions is, after I load the chamber, do I replace both the coil cap (and its worthless dab tool) and the atomizer tube, or just the atomizer tube?


Thanks,

Tom

 

[Broccoli555]

Hi guys,

I'm a new member of this forum. I'm a 59 year old psychotherapist, with extensive experience with psychedelics. I've never used a vape pen to smoke DMT, or anything else. I bought Yocan's Magento, as my dedicated pipe, but I'm unclear on how to use it.

I know that it's recommended to dump the product into the chamber; heat it until it melts, and then vape it. My questions is, after I load the chamber, do I replace both the coil cap (and its worthless dab tool) and the atomizer tube, or just the atomizer tube?


Thanks,

Tom

Hey Tom I also had the magneto as a starter device. The dab tool is there so you don't inhale any powder. I would recommend putting the device back together the way it came after the spice is in. I've found that the tool is pretty inefficient at first and takes some "seasoning" to get any meaningful hits. After about five or six times of loading the device with about 40mg it should work a lot better.

That's just my experience though. Let me know if you have any other questions about the device. Oh and make sure to pulse the button every 4 or 5 seconds. You should notice a difference in vapor once the coil is getting too hot and starts to but the spice.

 

[GulliverTravels]

I am not sure if this thread is still active considering the last post date.

But I thought I would add the following info...

Found the Saionara atomizer from Humbolt Vape, with a Ceramic coil, set to 24 watts, is a less than 50$ way to get a setup to get started with. If you already vape and have a mod.

1-2 Rips, and you are off to the races!

;-D

I'm not sure if its ok to link in here so I didn't. Its easy to find on their site.

Hope this helps someone.

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[Moscoe]

Looking forward to trying this tek. Everything is in order.

Also, these glass drip tips fit the Vandyvape Mesh RDA perfectly, and shipping to US only took about 10 days from China. https://www.ebay.com/itm/153106016479

 

[666PsYcHoNaUt]

Interesting read everyone. Thank you!

 

[some one]

E-mesh info update:

Direct e-mesh method howto step by step with images and video - Vaping/Smoking - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Quotes of people's reactions in Propello's e-mesh topic:

Since I switched to direct e-mesh vaping, I never looked back again at all other teks I tried before. Basically for any substance.

Best i have tried so far, matches the vaporgenie.

I'm pretty sure you can breakthrough with about 15-25mg in this thing. I use it on wattage mode at 45w. I usually heat It up to 50% then hit it near the end of the draw to get the most concentrated hit. Then I hold until I need another breath. Then break through lol every time.

Oh my! This thing is insanely effective :surprised The build was extremely easy so once I’d got a flat shelf for the molecule to sit I added 15mg ( tester dose ). I set temp control to 210 ( I tried 180 first but heat up was a little slow ) and 25w with air flow half open. Couple of clicks to melt the magick into the mesh. Cap back on n cleared it all easily with 1 draw. No taste, no smell. Held forever lol so minimal vapour on the exhale but more than normal at this low a dose using other devices. Pretty much instantly the room turns into fractals and I start to laugh at my dog who now has an Aztec type head :lol: Obviously no breakthrough at this dose but honestly, I’ve done many low ‘tester’ doses with new devices n this is the strongest 15mg yet. I can see 30mg being a 1 hit breakthrough for sure. It’s gonna be so easy to clear 30mg and more with this method as it’s like smoking air. Amazing! Thank you so much to aum_shanti for bringing this method to light and thank you for testing the method and for helping me out :thumb_up:

I checked the mesh afterwards n it was totally clean. Like nothing had been on it. It also hasn’t made my new RDA smell which is pretty amazing as we all know how this stuff stinks up most devices.

I’ve just thrown out my Yocan and the machine will be no more. Can’t wait to try a breakthrough dose with this beast! More than happy!

Happy travels folks

30mg tested Friday :shock: Absolutely mind blowing! I’m still processing it all now ( trying not to forget it ). Full breakthrough into totally awe, beauty and love. I was being shown the workings of another dimension and the beauty of it was beyond what I can put into words. I came-to with my jaw on the floor with dribble down my chin ( very glamorous ) :lol: All I kept saying was ‘wow, yes, yes, wow, omg wow lol.

I can’t even remember going through the jester tunnel or waiting room. I cleared the 30mg in one hit n held it in that long I couldn’t remember blowing it back out n then within an instant I was there n it was just full of love and beauty. I didn’t even get the high pitched reality tearing apart sound. It was that quick. Instant breakthrough!

This method is genius :thumb_up: I went for 220 temp n 30w this time n that’s what I’m gonna stick with, I reckon. I used a new mesh n I must admit I did struggle a little getting the whole 30mg onto it. What I did in the end was added half the 30mg, melted that n then added the other half n melted that. It worked a treat but I often did this when loading my machine.

This method is definitely on par with a dab rig with quartz banger but soooo much better as no glassware to break n no torch lighter to deal with when your reality is being ripped apart. Never used a gvg so can’t comment but this is my go-to method from now on :surprised

Mesh was totally clean again after use n still my rda doesn’t smell. Nice :thumb_up:

ok geared up after reading your ideas, and got to say wow!
15mg white spice on a wotofo profile with vandy vape ss316l 400 mesh 43ohm/ft on a smoant naboo mod

before even exhaling the CEV start changing from moving geometric patterns into moving 2d creatures! alot like the dragon in this music video:
"Fever The Ghost - SOURCE"

thought it would be a lot milder as this stage has taken me 20 to 25 mg to get to previously with yocan evolve plus and green Buddha methods! im sure a little more on the mesh would of pulled me into that 3d tunnel which i would not of been prepared for

spices instantly vaporise with one touch of the fire pin at 120c/250f no burn no mess barely any taste just pure wow!:thumb_up:

You’re gonna love it My VV mesh RDA is the best bit of kit I’ve bought, ever :lol: So easy to clear all in one hit too :thumb_up: I use the same mesh. Works a treat!

So, I just used the device. I aimed for a small test dose of around 20mg. Used 200c and 35w. Got all in within 10 seconds.

WOW! OMG! So easy. No taste. One hit. So strong for 20mg! Total awe. I'm trashing all my other devices. dmt-nexus, delete all smoking forums, we found the holy grail!

Let me just start off by thanking everyone in this thread and forum for sharing the knowledge of this wonderful molecule and the easiest way to utilize it.

Took all in one 5 to 7 sec hit. Immediate body effects and about 5 sec I was off into another land. No burnt spice, mesh was clean. Smooth vapor, no harsh hit or throat burn. And no fiddling around with the fire button just inhale and fire.

From my limited use of different teks, the e-mesh method easily beats out the yocan Magento in every aspect of use except for set up process.

Thank you all again for sharing this wonderful method.

just tried 5mg to test the waters and it nearly blew my head off, wasn't expecting that off 5mg, could do with a bigger surface area than the vandy ss mesh, other than that its awesome

Tried this method for the first time after receiving my drip tip. Put in about 33 mg and broke through and I didn't even finish it. This is my new favorite method because you only need 1 hit to blast off and it is so smooth.

Wow. Just wow. 35W, 190°c - lift off. Thanks

(Voopoo drag 2 mini, 810 pyrex driptip, vandy vape rda, SS316L)

Finally tested 20 mg just to see if my settings were good.

cleared quickly in one inhale. Not harsh but could maybe drop 5C and see if it is smoother. The Aegis is aa win. Leaves my eleaf Pico as a charger:lol:
Thx everyone for the hand up! So amazing!

Just "woaw"!

I wasn't expecting such a blast. Crazy. Beautiful and unexpected sub-bt!

THANK YOU ALL! Especially Some One and Propello! It is the easiest way!

 

[PureFruit]

Thanks to everyone for doing research on the mod vaping with custom mesh.

Currently I'm busy with some liquid testing. My mod allows me to do manual tcr so surely I'm gonna try that one too

 

[DancinDog]

I bought a Yocan iShred which I don't think was the best choice after reading this thread.

Is it okay? Can I modify it to make it work better? The heat chamber is quite small, so I don't think SS mesh would fit in it.

Maybe I should just shop for a better device?

Thanks,

 

[Propello]

Thanks to everyone for doing research on the mod vaping with custom mesh.

Currently I'm busy with some liquid testing. My mod allows me to do manual tcr so surely I'm gonna try that one too

You don't need liquid for this setup.

 

[Propello]

I bought a Yocan iShred which I don't think was the best choice after reading this thread.

Is it okay? Can I modify it to make it work better? The heat chamber is quite small, so I don't think SS mesh would fit in it.

Maybe I should just shop for a better device?

Thanks,

You can't use the mEsh method with this one, but with an fitting oil/wax pad you should be able to use it with spice.

Safe travels

 

[cruisinalltheway]

how quickly are you able to redose on vaporized dmt?

1. if i didnt breakthrough

2. if i did breakthrough

, and would i need to use a higher than normal dose due to tolerance?

 

[Propello]

45-60 minutes with minimal tolerance build up IMHO. Doesn't matter if bt or not. 30 minutes after there is some tolerance.

I prefer 60 minutes minimum between flights. Enjoying the afterglow and taking some time to evaluate the trip is essential to me.

 

[Plutarchalitea]

45-60 minutes with minimal tolerance build up IMHO. Doesn't matter if bt or not. 30 minutes after there is some tolerance.

I prefer 60 minutes minimum between flights. Enjoying the afterglow and taking some time to evaluate the trip is essential to me.

Good to know.