Dosing freinds

[slewb]

So, I've read a lot on the Nexus saying to be careful who you give DMT to, it's so powerful people won't understand the experience and freak out, etc. I've never been particularly careful about who I dose with DMT. I've dosed people with absolutely no psychedelic experience, and other people who, for whatever reason, you'd think that DMT isn't a good fit for. Everyone loves it. They've all come out of it so happy, and I always feel really good for having given them the experience.

What I'm wondering is why everyone on here is so cautious about who they share their DMT with. Have there been specific incidences where someone on here has given someone else DMT for the first time and it was just an absolute disaster? Yeah, maybe one day I'll dose someone and they'll have a bad trip, but my first DMT flash was terrifying and afterwards I still felt magnificent. And either way, you're done with the rough stuff in ten minutes tops. I personally enjoy the feeling I get watching a friend trip for the first time and talking with that friend about it afterward more than I enjoy smoking DMT myself at this point.

 

[vardlokkur]

You're asking why people are cautious in introducing people to a paradigm shifting psychedelic, that happens to be Schedule 1 substance in the US? Aside from discretion due to those reasons, some don't want to be responsible for the transformation that is going to take place. Of course I can't speak for others but these are a few reasons I can pick off the top of my head.

 

[slewb]

Actually, I was just asking why many people assume that others will be ill equipped to deal with the experience. Sorry if I was unclear on that. In response to your comment, obviously I don't give DMT to just anyone, and if I thought someone was going to turn me in for possession of a schedule 1 substance I likely wouldn't have anything to do with them in the first place. As for paradigm shift, I like to facilitate as much of it as I can. But those are things having to do with you and me, not whoever is receiving the DMT. All I'm wondering is if the idea that we shouldn't give DMT to people for their own sake is actually founded in anything. For example, has anyone here given someone their first dose of DMT and later regretted it?

 

[tele]

All I'm wondering is if the idea that we shouldn't give DMT to people for their own sake is actually founded in anything.

I believe it simply depends on the person who is interested to try it and what does he know about it beforehand. The attitude of the doser and the dosed is important of course.
Possibility of unpleasant experience is always there for anyone, especially on medium to high doses. If person is willing to try it even if they know they might "hypershit their pants" then why not. If they are willing to try it again after first breakthrough, especially if it's though one(I mean truely a proper dose entering the brain), then I believe they have the balls for the job to explore further the endless space.
But if one is just seeking to get high then obviously it's not for them.
The shock of a newb getting a dose too high(stories available on nexus) and having difficult experience can have bad results, so therefore always start low if offering it to a first timer. Then one can give higher doses(in about 5mg increasements) if they feel ok with it.


On another hand I would think five times at least before dosing a friend.

 

[vardlokkur]

I think there are many on the forums that do introduce people, and there are also some who do not. As far as I know I do not believe there is any sort of official policy, in the end it's your choice whether you want to be that catalyst. I'm just offering some basic reasons as to why someone may decide to NOT share it. If one feels compelled to share, then they're most likely going to.

 

[Global]

I haven't introduced anyone in a while, but I will be doing so again later today, so I'll let you know how it goes

 

[anrchy]

I think mainly the caution is that of choose who you offer it to wisely. Not so much that you shouldn't. More like there are people that exist that shouldn't take dmt and those that can. The idea is the same with mushrooms. Slightly different though for obvious reasons. I know some people that literally don't want to try it, my gf for instance. I would dose her if she asked for it but I'm in no way pushing her to do so.

The idea comes from the fact that "no one can handle DMt" and so if after they know enough about it want to try, then no big deal. But also understand the reason you want to be careful is some people may think they are tough and can handle any psychadelic. And when you have that mindset and you take DMT it slaps the crap out of you. And some people may not be able to handle that.

Also you don't want to give DMT to some one who is extremely depressed due to a recent situation. You may not know of the situation for some reason so it's a good idea to know who you are dosing and know 100% they are mentally ready.

 

[Purges]

I have dosed a few people, and will no doubt dose others in future. Although, due to my own experiences I am a little reluctant to dose anyone besides close friends who show a keen interest and know their stuff. If they meet that criteria, then :shock: :want: :surprised :want: :want: 8)

 

[3rdI]

to begin with i was happy to dose any of my friends or friends of friends, but now im not really up for dosing anyone who hasnt been previously introduced to the experience as i dont want to be the one who brings about a massive change of perspective in another person.

This rule will hold fast i think, unless she is very pretty

I haven't introduced anyone in a while, but I will be doing so again later today, so I'll let you know how it goes

how did it go???

 

[Dethrone]

I was introduced through someone else and I may never have had any of these experiences if that hadnt happened.
But I was the one who mentioned it to a friend from work.I said "I read about this dmt stuff and it sounds incredible",
after our shift was over we were at my place launching.

There are very few people I would consider introducing,but I will only do so if they show a strong desire to try it and
do some proper research first.I have a few very closed minded friends that could probably use a good dose but will never get it from me,because for them to get a good look at themselves and watch there huge ego die might send them off the deep end.

That and I think for anyone with strong religious views could have their beliefs damaged and I wouldnt want to be the one who does that to them.

 

[Global]

I haven't introduced anyone in a while, but I will be doing so again later today, so I'll let you know how it goes

how did it go???

It went pretty well (as usual 8) ). On her first time around, she said she was getting colors and patterns, but didn't say much beyond that. Meanwhile I was seeing tribal voodoo masks on her walls, but I kept that to myself. I could tell she wasn't completely blown away. So we talked for a little while, and asked if she'd like to go again. I suggested she could put on music if she liked, so she asked if the Beatles would be ok, so we found some appropriate Beatles music, loaded up the GVG and let it whirl. I'm not quite sure what was going on in her head the second time around, other than she seemed quite satisfied/impressed.

I don't know if it was a life changing experience for her, but I've had a number of people tell me I've changed their lives. Personally, I welcome facilitating a life changing experience as it imbues both parties' lives with greater purpose (I feel).