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Easy way to very pure harmaloids

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So SWIM tried the extraction the way that he said. With just enough alcohol to cover the seeds in a jar, giving heat baths, not boiling down. He got about a gram of off white/greyish product from 100 grams seeds. Would have probably been more white if he had done more washes at the end of the tech. He says 200mg doses holding under the tongue for a minute before swallowing work great with no nausea. He actually likes these harmaloids better than some caapi extracted harmaloids that he ordered online.
 
69ron said:
endlessness said:
is salt soluble in pure alcohol?

anb btw infund.. if the bioassay of the red stuff is done, please let us know, this is for sure very interesting information
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Unfortunately salt is slightly soluble in pure alcohol.

You can actually dry alcohol by adding salt because salt is highly soluble in water and will trap all the water, but then you need to distill the alcohol to remove the remaining salt. You can get highly pure alcohol that way.
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This won't work with acetone too will it? making it anhydrous.
 
I'm curious about that too, Barmaley.

Table salt is faar less soluble in acetone than it is in ethanol or methanol, so it seems like it could.

If so, this would make FASA even easier.
 
FASA's not a good idea for harmaloids because acetone causes harmala red from what I hear.

As for the ascorbic acid thing, I tried it once and the end product was active with a less bitter taste and was less cloudy than the untreated extract. This could just have been because of a loss of potency during 5 hours of gentle boiling.

I have never tried THH so couldn't really compare it to what I had.
 
Isn't Harmala red only a problem when evapping? FASA circumvents that, no?

Also, I've read through this thread, and I didn't see if its been definitely determined whether harmala red is active or not. Has it been determined?
 
SpasticSpaz said:
Isn't Harmala red only a problem when evapping? FASA circumvents that, no?

Also, I've read through this thread, and I didn't see if its been definitely determined whether harmala red is active or not. Has it been determined?
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Kind of; SWIM has observed that freebased harmalas are somewhat soluble in acetone and can be precipitated out using FASA. But leave the fumarate harmalas in the acetone for some time (e.g. o/n) and one will see them turning red (=harmala red?)

SWI69ron has seen harmala salts turning to red with IPA and has found the harmala red to be inactive, SWIM has seen them getting red in ethanol, methanol and acetone but he has not bioassayed them. Since they turn red then something is happening to them and SWIM does not think it's good.
 
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