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extracting alkaloids from banisteriopsis caapi..
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kemist
John
Pal, ILPT would follow ONE`s extraction to the step 5. one cannot spoil anything when food grade citric acid and sodium bicarbonate will be used. Of curse further basification would get more freebased alkaloids but quality of it doesn`t look good.
Bicarbonate precip. looking excellent and have a nice bitter taste great accompanied with dark lindlt chocolate 85% :lol: :lol: :lol: One can not wait to apply that 120 mg under his tongue.
It is not much of hard work,mostly waiting
With Caapi ILPT suggest to use shreded one. In tek double ammount of acidic water and extend simmering time three times.
Bicarbonate precip. looking excellent and have a nice bitter taste great accompanied with dark lindlt chocolate 85% :lol: :lol: :lol: One can not wait to apply that 120 mg under his tongue.
It is not much of hard work,mostly waiting
With Caapi ILPT suggest to use shreded one. In tek double ammount of acidic water and extend simmering time three times.
This is a good one IMHO:
The Herbal Percolator (THP) extraction method
You might need to register on the ayahuasca forum to see it.
In my and several others experience, it is about twice as effective in extracting actives. Meaning, with normal 3 hour cooking, 3 times you might need 50 gram of caapi for a good brew. With THP, 25 gram might be enough.
The Herbal Percolator (THP) extraction method
You might need to register on the ayahuasca forum to see it.
In my and several others experience, it is about twice as effective in extracting actives. Meaning, with normal 3 hour cooking, 3 times you might need 50 gram of caapi for a good brew. With THP, 25 gram might be enough.
You are already registered on the ayahuasca forum as 69Ron. Don't know if the capital R is needed when logging in.
Here:
If that does not work, I'll make a new thread about it on this forum.
I'll register one for you. Then you can log in and change password and email address. Just PM me the username you want.69ron said:
Dagger said:
I really LOVE the THP method, it works so well.
Can I ask you to post that method on the DMT-Nexus? And is it maybe also allowed to put that method on the DMT-Nexus wiki?
Of course. Post it on the wiki if you like. I will try to post it on this forum later today.The Traveler said:
lorax
Rising Star
yeah.. but how do you get pure white crystals from this method? SWIM is looking for a way to get white crystals without all of the filtration problems. That usual syrian rue tek works if you have the right microfilters but it just takes ages to get it all filtered.
kemist
John
Listen pal, if you are bored, try do the extraction from the whole seeds. Or send a kilo of rue and week off, to ILPT and he would gratefully undertake research of extracting from whole(not crushed)seeds.
Fu*k filtrations pal, just let it patiently settle down and decant. It was fun but ILPT need more time to play further.
Fu*k filtrations pal, just let it patiently settle down and decant. It was fun but ILPT need more time to play further.
As I have said several times before on this forum, use egg whites!lorax said:
Egg whites can clear up pretty much any brew.
Any kind of brew with particles that is really hard to filter, egg whites should clear, if done correctly.11:11 said:
The egg white will somehow bond will all the particles in suspension. This happens at warmer temperatures, perhaps around 60C+
If you have a brew of 50 gram rue in 1 liter of water, which you want to filter. Remove the coarser particles, and add the brew to a pot. Turn the hotplate on max heat and add the egg white. Perhaps two egg whites is needed, not quite sure with rue. Another important thing is that the brew is not too high in pH, this would prevent it from working. pH 4-5 should work.
It is important to keep the liquid moving at all times while it is heating, so keep swirling that brew with a fork or something.
As it get hotter, a reaction will start, particles will pop onto the surface. You will start to see that the brew becomes clearer. A omelette thingy will start to form on the surface. Continue to swirl until it starts to boil. Let it boil for 30-60 seconds. Then take it off.
When you now filter it, which should be easy, the brew should be crystal clear. No more particles.
Check out this thread on the aya forum(need to be registered):
More Eggy Fun!
Perhaps it is obsolete, but it is excellent to remove particles, from caapi too. Gelatin is not really good at removing particles, it is great at removing tannins etc.69ron said:
I have only tried gelatin, egg whites and milk(casein), but think it might be a good idea to test out some of the others.
This looks like a good page about fining agents:
And I wonder if this could be of interest in extracting alkaloids?
Table of Fining Agents by Purpose
Charge and purpose of fining agents
