Extractions problems

[Antichristus]

Hello friends, my question pertains to extraction. I haven't been doing this long, and have had basically mixed results. This picture is from a 50g MHRB Cybs A/B salt tek. I am trying to figure out why on some occasions, the product looked like tiny sand dollars, not sure how else to describe it, and I apologize for not having a picuture of some prior extractions I've done. Now over the last week, this is what I am getting, while following the same process. Can anyone shed some light on what part of the process I am not doing correctly, because when it looked different, it was good and I mean really good. I have been using a vape cartridge and when the product was right, one big hit and I was experiencing level three to four results. Thanks for reading my post and any guidance will be most welcome. safe travels

 

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when it looked different, it was good and I mean really good

Is this one not good? I'm not expert but it looks good to me.

 

[Antichristus]

Is this one not good? I'm not expert but it looks good to me.

Thanks for responding, actually I am not sure. I do know that other extractions looked differently, they looked more like little mounds, almost like little spores, best way I can describe it. When it looked like that after extraction, the spice was really good. The last couple times that it has looked like this, it's been weird looking the vape cartridge, and even the effects are not like I had experienced before. What is shown in the picture, when added into a vape cartridge ends up looking kinda orange or something close to it. So, although I feel as though I am doing the extractions the same, I am sure that there is something that I am missing and that is where the problem lies. In now way is vaping spice suppose to cause swelling in your body and I have experienced that as well. Just trying to gather as much information as I can.

 

[Sakkadelic]

Hi Antichristus,

It looks good to me too, it's normal for dmt to crystalise in different forms and colors (yellow). You can do a recrystalisation and a sodium carbonate water wash, hopefully it will look better and you'll feel better, if there is some contamination the wash and and rex will help clean it.

Regarding swelling, there are several posts mentioning that, check them to see what it was about and how others dealt with it.

 

[Antichristus]

Hi Antichristus,

It looks good to me too, it's normal for dmt to crystalise in different forms and colors (yellow). You can do a recrystalisation and a sodium carbonate water wash, hopefully it will look better and you'll feel better, if there is some contamination the wash and and rex will help clean it.

Regarding swelling, there are several posts mentioning that, check them to see what it was about and how others dealt with it.

Thank you very much, I appreciate it Sakkakelic

 

[Antichristus]

Hello fellow travelers....
The information contained on this platform has proved to be, quite frankly, a lifesaver. For those of us who adamantly charge forward, not to be deterred by less than perfect results, all I had to do was take a little time and immerse myself in the wealth of quality information to be discovered on the Nexus. That is why we are here, to learn? Many of the troubling questions that I had, which I believe I now possess a better understanding of, have been read and reread. But no, I didn't feel it necessary to do this. Now I realize just how silly of me that was. There are many things in life that from time to time we might need to ask help with, but in no way does this mean we are dumb. Lacking knowledge, of course, there's many intelligent individuals in this world lacking knowledge. The picture of the dish was a STB 50g MHRB, 50g Sodium Hydroxide, 50 ml naphtha, with a total volume of 750ml distilled water. Followed by freeze precipitate. I have not attempted a re-x just yet, but I intend to incorporate this process into some future teks.

I have liked the vaping method, albeit my results seemed to be kind of hit or miss, and at that point I did not possess the level of knowledge that I do now, again, thanks to the resources I have found here on the Nexus. Initially, I was experiencing symptoms that I could not properly classify. This was largely in part to the spice in the vape cart being far too concentrated, meaning it did not have the consistency necessary to vape correctly. I also read where some people took the powder and placed it in a VJ bottle and then added the vape juice to it. I did try that once, but I didn't like the results. My current methodology has to be somewhat backwards, as I have concluded from some other posts I have read. The vape cart in the picture had .5 g of spice added to it, first I added 8 drops of vape juice then put the spice in the cart. I'm sure there is an easier and better method, which I expect to discover, but for now, the results seem good. I had also mentioned experiencing some swelling on different occasions, mostly in my lower extremities. Now my common sense is telling me that all indications point to spice doses in the simply crazy range, as I did experience this at any lower and more moderate consumption. Thankfully DMT isn't toxic, say like fentanyl or other drugs of that sort, but nevertheless I didn't find much enjoyment in receiving one of these "Thanos" types of hits.

I now understand that this was in part to the spice not being completely dissolved in the vape juice. The cart I am using, the heating element is around the bottom of the cart, so when the DMT was not completely absorbed into the vape juice, I am fairly certain that where the problem was to be found. One one occasion I hitting the vape and the effect was nearly instantaneous, almost humbling, leaving me thinking OMG, as all I was looking at instantly morphed into cartoon plants and minecraft motifs. My feet looked deformed, like my toes had begun to elongate entirely out of proportion. Now I could be mistaken, as I have not spoken with anyone who really has experienced hits of this magnitude, so if I am missing something, please feel free to share, and I thank you for that. I had also thought that the spice was bad, but now I don't seem to think that was the issue either, the size of dose incorrect, yes absolutely. So I added an additional 8 drops of vape juice to what I already had in the cart. Without the cart being preheated I can turn it upside down and it will move almost like a lava lamp, nor do I now see any remaining crystals in the now golden honey colored juice in the cart now. I have also had the darker colored juice before, and I had initially thought it was bad or maybe I had burnt it somehow. I have been vaping it at 3.0 volts as it seems to be working the best at this temp. Although I am still curious as to what the proper temps are, I think I read something in the manner of 200C, I believe I have been really worried about burning it, so my efforts have been on the conservative side, the better safe than sorry approach. Again, I would like to thank each and every member who takes the time to read my post, never stop learning, because life never stops teaching. I also didn't want to ask any redundant questions, just share my results and continue this learning process. May all our travels be safe!

 

[EmeraldAtomiser]

Hey there.
I've had excellent results making juice, and this is the recipe and technique I use (based on info I've got from this site.).
I try not to use anything plastic when mixing or storing the juice. I mix my VG and PG in a small glass, wide-mouthed bottle. Approx 1.3ml VG and 1.45ml PG
I know some folk use way more PG (some even 100%) but I find that dreadfully harsh, hence the almost 50:50 ratio.
I then pour 1g of spice into the bottle, seal it and put it in a cup with some hot water. This helps dissolve the spice. I then use a syringe to transfer it into the tank.
I've experimented with different vapes and use this juice with a decent mod capable of sub-ohm, but not with a very low resistance coil, and keep the watts at or below the lowest setting for the coil. Like this, you can really modulate your hit very easily. A small toke at this setting gives the clarity of vision, whilst a big lung-full can put you well into the realm. Up the wattage a bit and take a big hit, and it's hold onto your socks time.
I really don't like the cartridge you have on your mod, as I find it is impossible to get the draw I want with the restricted airflow.
I'd highly recommend something like this VAPORESSO GEN 80 S VAPE KIT WITH ITANK 2 EDITION | UK Vape Store | E-Cig Clouds
Hope this helps!

 

[Antichristus]

Hello fellow travelers....
The information contained on this platform has proved to be, quite frankly, a lifesaver. For those of us who adamantly charge forward, not to be deterred by less than perfect results, all I had to do was take a little time and immerse myself in the wealth of quality information to be discovered on the Nexus. That is why we are here, to learn? Many of the troubling questions that I had, which I believe I now possess a better understanding of, have been read and reread. But no, I didn't feel it necessary to do this. Now I realize just how silly of me that was. There are many things in life that from time to time we might need to ask help with, but in no way does this mean we are dumb. Lacking knowledge, of course, there's many intelligent individuals in this world lacking knowledge. The picture of the dish was a STB 50g MHRB, 50g Sodium Hydroxide, 50 ml naphtha, with a total volume of 750ml distilled water. Followed by freeze precipitate. I have not attempted a re-x just yet, but I intend to incorporate this process into some future teks.

I have liked the vaping method, albeit my results seemed to be kind of hit or miss, and at that point I did not possess the level of knowledge that I do now, again, thanks to the resources I have found here on the Nexus. Initially, I was experiencing symptoms that I could not properly classify. This was largely in part to the spice in the vape cart being far too concentrated, meaning it did not have the consistency necessary to vape correctly. I also read where some people took the powder and placed it in a VJ bottle and then added the vape juice to it. I did try that once, but I didn't like the results. My current methodology has to be somewhat backwards, as I have concluded from some other posts I have read. The vape cart in the picture had .5 g of spice added to it, first I added 8 drops of vape juice then put the spice in the cart. I'm sure there is an easier and better method, which I expect to discover, but for now, the results seem good. I had also mentioned experiencing some swelling on different occasions, mostly in my lower extremities. Now my common sense is telling me that all indications point to spice doses in the simply crazy range, as I did experience this at any lower and more moderate consumption. Thankfully DMT isn't toxic, say like fentanyl or other drugs of that sort, but nevertheless I didn't find much enjoyment in receiving one of these "Thanos" types of hits.

I now understand that this was in part to the spice not being completely dissolved in the vape juice. The cart I am using, the heating element is around the bottom of the cart, so when the DMT was not completely absorbed into the vape juice, I am fairly certain that where the problem was to be found. One one occasion I hitting the vape and the effect was nearly instantaneous, almost humbling, leaving me thinking OMG, as all I was looking at instantly morphed into cartoon plants and minecraft motifs. My feet looked deformed, like my toes had begun to elongate entirely out of proportion. Now I could be mistaken, as I have not spoken with anyone who really has experienced hits of this magnitude, so if I am missing something, please feel free to share, and I thank you for that. I had also thought that the spice was bad, but now I don't seem to think that was the issue either, the size of dose incorrect, yes absolutely. So I added an additional 8 drops of vape juice to what I already had in the cart. Without the cart being preheated I can turn it upside down and it will move almost like a lava lamp, nor do I now see any remaining crystals in the now golden honey colored juice in the cart now. I have also had the darker colored juice before, and I had initially thought it was bad or maybe I had burnt it somehow. I have been vaping it at 3.0 volts as it seems to be working the best at this temp. Although I am still curious as to what the proper temps are, I think I read something in the manner of 200C, I believe I have been really worried about burning it, so my efforts have been on the conservative side, the better safe than sorry approach. Again, I would like to thank each and every member who takes the time to read my post, never stop learning, because life never stops teaching. I also didn't want to ask any redundant questions, just share my results and continue this learning process. May all our travels be safe!

Unfortunately, I am as confused now more than ever, as I am still experiencing the problematic swelling of my lower extremities. Initially, I had thought this was due to the spice not being dissolved completely in the vape cart mixture. Yet even after ensuring that the mixture was fully dissolved, I find myself with the same issue. Apparently I am extracting the less common form of DMT known as DMT lite. . Amusing as this might seem, I can't seem to isolate why I was having vastly different results with the vape cart using far less vape juice. My assumptions are sketchy at best, but does it reason to think that when the spice is mixed with more vape juice, the effects should also be less intense, than compared to more spice and less vape juice? In the cart it looks to be a golden honey color, but lacking any real punch. This strikes me as something I can't quite put my finger on. A conundrum with more twists and turns the plots of the illuminati to say the least. My only real conclusion is that the pH is not at or above 12. Can anyone confirm that, yes you can very well yield a pull, but if the pH is not at or above 12 you'll end up with the notorious DMT Lite. Something reserved for those who don't really want the full psychedelic experience. Which is why I didn't really post much on here, because I hate asking silly or stupid questions. The ones with answers that should all but seem obvious. Unfortunately, I am getting negative results each time. The only thing I can think is that I am doing something wrong with the tek. Yet this seems odd, I am using the same MHRB from the same vendor, that I had been getting what I had thought were really great effects without any negative effects to my body whatsoever. And when I say this, I don't mean it like every time was a breakthrough, that's not the case. I am still debating as to whether or not I had experienced a true break through. I have surmised that the 510 carts I have been using were of low quality, but even changing to a ceramic 510 type, still no difference.

The best way I can say it, is that what effects that I am seeing now are nothing like what I had been experiencing previously, almost like the visuals are subdued or somehow just lacking, hard to explain. Every time I try to add it to the cart now, for some reason it looks this funny kind of orange color, not the amber honey color that it had been. I had though it would be something simple to figure out, but so far that hasn't been the case. It's really more like a mystery than anything else. Who knows, I still think there's a simple answer, even if I haven't quite found it yet.

 

[Antichristus]

Hey there.
I've had excellent results making juice, and this is my recipe and technique.
I try not to use anything plastic when mixing or storing the juice. I mix my VG and PG in a small glass, wide-mouthed bottle. Approx 1.3ml VG and 1.45ml PG
I know some folk use way more PG (some even 100%) but I find that dreadfully harsh, hence the almost 50:50 ratio.
I then pour 1g of spice into the bottle, seal it and put it in a cup with some hot water. This helps dissolve the spice. I then use a syringe to transfer it into the tank.
I've experimented with different vapes and use this juice with a decent mod capable of sub-ohm, but not with a very low resistance coil, and keep the watts at or below the lowest setting for the coil. Like this, you can really modulate your hit very easily. A small toke at this setting gives the clarity of vision, whilst a big lung-full can put you well into the realm. Up the wattage a bit and take a big hit, and it's hold onto your socks time.
I really don't like the cartridge you have on your mod, as I find it is impossible to get the draw I want with the restricted airflow.
I'd highly recommend something like this VAPORESSO GEN 80 S VAPE KIT WITH ITANK 2 EDITION | UK Vape Store | E-Cig Clouds
Hope this helps!

Hello, thanks for the response, sorry I haven't gotten on here sooner, but I go to school online and with the problems I've been having, it was frustrating me a little. But nonetheless, I greatly appreciate you information and I am going to follow your advice, as my toils as a novice have been pretty much hit or miss, and here lately more miss than hit. I know this sounds silly of me, but I had broke my ph tester, but wasn't having any problems with the tek, until weird things started happening that i couldn't really explain, the crazy swelling I attributed to getting way too big of a hit or dose. Then I also thought that the carts were getting plugged up, like they would work ok for the first time though, then they started getting hard to hit. At some point, I have no doubt that the spice can get burned, which only can mean something bad I am sure. So I am going to go back to start everything fresh, and get the item you recommended. I will let you know what improvements this is, I'm sure it will be a lot. Thanks again. Safe travels mate