Fake spice or dmt immunity

[Elfo Viridis]

I dont Wanna rush... Is that i dont Want to waste any spice.
Sincerely i thought to get more from my root bark, while it Was only 20g Mhrb...

Despite this i Was thinking about to make some enhached leaf with weed, so that i can use my da vinci device.
Do you Think is a good idea?

Making enhanced leaf with weed and 50mg of DMT, you're looking at one dose due to loss. Why dont you make some more pulls, you should get somewhere around 200mg from 20g of bark. keep making pulls, finish your extraction before you move onto the next stage. It often takes a good 100mg or more for some people to learn how to vape it properly without a proper device. I could tell you to load half that 50mg into your bong sandwiched between bud, but then you would have 2 shots at it.

If your gonna do it, may as well do it right.

Off course i Will do more pull before to make enhanched leaf... Im going to Wait for the end of the extraction for sure.

 

[Elfo Viridis]

But if i still decide to use the vaporizer with weed enhanched, what should be the optimal temperature and technique ?

 

[HippingTrippY]

Welcome Elfo. I have a metal coil CVG and I practiced a whole heck of a lot with "weed" before using it for Spice. It is interesting to get the goodies from the herb, open it up and see the herb/weed still whole but a bit lighter colored and no longer containing trichromes. It is tricky to get just that and not burn it which would be less than IDEAL.
There are excellent TEKS here that have been developed by Genius Chemists who have taken the effort to present it in a way that we can understand and copy. I have heard nothing but good things about CYB's tek and no some that have incorporated the salt portion quite successfully into thick-lights tek for ACRB. What I have read is that CyB's Tek if followed to the letter including should yield you at least 500 mgs, more like a full gramme. Cudos for obtaining Mimosa. I have seen however that having an excess such as 5,000 to 10,000 mgs. at the end of the couple day process seems to insure that issues such as smoking technique and missfires can be worked through, experimented with, and perfected.
If such a disease as addiction exists I have it. The molecule that you are after for me has no obsessive compulsive quality to it at all. What I am trying to communicate is that there is nothing to fear in having TOO much of it. If you have 50 gs of Mimosa follow that tek to the letter. KNOW that there is no such thing as scarcity. I wish you the best of luck and look forward to your report when you break through. My 1st time I broke through using a pop can withsome ashes and the smallest amount of the mimosa extraction that I was just trying to taste. YOU CAN DO IT!:d

 

[locojuiceman]

I've gotten beautiful Xtals that did nothing but HURT when smoked. It's the bark most likely because as long as the tek was done correctly the Deemsters/Neemsters should come out accordingly. I swear I think some 'vendors' [[ no names, I know ]] soak bunk bark in something so that it'll come out in the tek ... I could be wrong but I'm certain its possible, especially when all goes well, happy to have so much Xtals only for it to turn out completely BUNK !
Never EVER give up though.
Success is SOoooo rewarding

 

[Elfo Viridis]

I've gotten beautiful Xtals that did nothing but HURT when smoked. It's the bark most likely because as long as the tek was done correctly the Deemsters/Neemsters should come out accordingly. I swear I think some 'vendors' [[ no names, I know ]] soak bunk bark in something so that it'll come out in the tek ... I could be wrong but I'm certain its possible, especially when all goes well, happy to have so much Xtals only for it to turn out completely BUNK !
Never EVER give up though.
Success is SOoooo rewarding

Let see.... NeXT time i use another bark... But what about my xtals... What did i extract? Other alcaloids?

 

[anrchy]

if it hurt when you smoked it, you were burning the DMT. If you got crystals you got DMT. You extracted DMT, you just didnt smoke it correctly. Almost 100% certain that is your only issue.

 

[Elfo Viridis]

Well... We are going to understand it...

Meantime can you suggest a good vaping temperature for the changa?(portable device)
Or maybe i should better go to smoke the leaf in the machine?

 

[AcaciaConfusedYah]

Im going to use it in the da vinci vape... Because i dont have any other smoking device... And i dont trust in the machine anymore.

I highly doubt that you can get any good effects with that vaporizer. I have tried vaping DMT freebase with the Plenty vaporizer and, even though it has a HUGE surface for vaping, I could only get about 7mg of DMT in one pull.

The only vaporizers that seem to work with DMT freebase are the balloon/bag vaporizers like the Volcano.

p.s. For vaping DMT freebase with the Plenty vaporizer I set it to 180C.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

180C seems like a nice suggested starting point. If I recall, I set my DaVinci vape to around 350- 380F when I used it for the molecule.

I agree with the Traveler that the vaporizer is likely not the best method for the molecule. If you decide to go thet route anyways, let us know how it goes. Good luck

 

[Elfo Viridis]

I have not decided yet...

i have only one portable vaporizer.. I use it for weed and its awesome. But i understand the deal Now.
I cant get any bag vaporizer... Then i should try other Ways.

I read somewhere that the best way to smoke changa is the bong! Maybe i should get one...
But what about the heat ..? Is the flame not going to ruin the spice?
Whats the proper tek?!

 

[anrchy]

If you make changa smoke it in a bong yes. Dont worry about it ruining anything the plant material is mostly protecting the dmt.

To make changa you dissolve dmt in isopropyl alcohol then put your leafy material in. There are plenty of threads on this do some reading.

 

[Elfo Viridis]

And what about The Warm water bath tek? Is it effective? Sounds much more natural...

 

[anrchy]

And what about The Warm water bath tek? Is it effective? Sounds much more natural...

Yes its effective. It all depends on which one you want to do. If your concerned about using alcohol then go that route. But they both work.

 

[FiniteFox]

Just wanted to chime in - I tried to smoke 10-40mg half a dozen times out of "the machine" but got nothing. I went through a huge frustrating cycle of double checking all the things that could go wrong.

For me, I found that the delivery system was at fault. My machine had a soda straw - I just couldn't suck air through at it the right rate; I build a bong from a glass olive oil container and the same 40mg had an instant effect. Proper convection helped vaporize the dmt without burning, larger gas chamber helped cool it so it was much smoother. I could never get all the spice to vaporize at the same time on my machine - always left too much on the copper plug ...

And for immunity, I'm not sure anyone is immune per say, but I know that I feel nothing on 20 mg. Smoked, plugged, oral + MOAI ... my threshold is just higher I guess (or my spice isn't as potent). I also got confused when everyone said I should feel 20 mg, but I felt nothing. Keep the faith man.

Also, I sandwiched the crystal between some parsley, which may have helped too.

One more thing, I give another vote to Cybs tek. Worked well for me.

- FF

 

[wearepeople]

i heated the neck of the botte very gently and very slowly Until the spice started melting in a brown oil with curious plastic smell

I think you burned it instead of vaporizing it. In my experience, true DMT vapor tastes like flowers or nothing at all.

 

[Elfo Viridis]

Well... After the 3th pull i get only a bit more than 100mg... 4th and 5th pulls Were almost empty... Same as before with the barlow tek...
I dont know whats wrong with my tek... I studied and repeat all the step correctly many times.. Maybe it a very poor quality bark...

 

[anrchy]

Well... After the 3th pull i get only a bit more than 100mg... 4th and 5th pulls Were almost empty... Same as before with the barlow tek...
I dont know whats wrong with my tek... I studied and repeat all the step correctly many times.. Maybe it a very poor quality bark...

What is the total yield? You said first pull you got 50mg, this third pull yielded more than 100mg? So your at around 200mg total? How much bark did you use for this go around

 

[Elfo Viridis]

100 mg in total... From 20g mhrb ....

 

[anrchy]

Well you only extracted from 20g of bark. I bet if you evapped the solvent you would end up with some oily product as well.

A 1% yield would have only given you 200mg. What were you expecting?

 

[Elfo Viridis]

Nothing!
Is my first time... I didnt know what to expect...

But what about the oily stuff?... Its just what i get... What does it mean?

 

[anrchy]

It means smoke it