Feelings of guilt and wrong doing when using DMT?

[Al-Wasi]

Does anyone else experience these types of feelings when using DMt? Sometimes when I use it I feel as if I'm acting Irresponsible and shouldn't be doing it. A lot of time I have feelings of guilt or that I'm just partying and still stuck in highschool mode So to speak.

Although I know I'm using the molecule for spiritual reasons I think all the propaganda from the government schools etc effects my experience. Sometimes even when I smoke cannabis I start to think that my using cannabis and other plant teachers is not the right thing to do and I shouldn't be doing it.

When I was younger I did used to use these things for recreational reasons. But now its solely for the experience and spiritual reasons yet it seems I get these thoughts and th really make the experience not what I want it to be.

It's as if all the things I've been told by parents government school etc is just stuck k my head and comes up during the experience sometimes I'll come out of a DMT trip and think here I am tripping balls while my family is asleep and I feel bad even though I know I in using it for what it can help me experience.

 

[null24]

It's as if all the things I've been told by parents government school etc is just stuck k my head and comes up during the experience sometimes I'll come out of a DMT trip and think here I am tripping balls while my family is asleep and I feel bad even though I know I in using it for what it can help me experience.

This statement kinda says it all. Combined with all the stuff your head has been filled with, the fact that you do sound to be "clandestinly" smoalking I can see where that head space could come from. Maybe lay off until you have a place where you don't have to hide?

I once extracted at a place where the person didn't really want me to, I waited till he was asleep and hung out in the kitchen all night. I ended up tossing that extract as for me, it had that energy all around it and I got similar feelings from smoalking.

 

[Al-Wasi]

Its not that I have to hide. My wife knows and doesn't mind sometimes she's i n the room with me. I just wait for kids to sleep as I don't feel its the right time to do it when there awake.

Its odd only happens sometimes but only after I open my eyes. Cannabis however generally always has me questioning my choices. Its odd as I feel this is my way of spiritual practice yet years of propaganda seem to come out sometimes and it makes me question whether its just my head or if this is what the molecule is trying to teach me.

 

[Enoon]

I've had some experiences like that. I had to find the root of the problem, the origin of these thoughts, and then they went away. One point was really clarifying for myself that I was doing it for good. Even if there was no particular intention of one trip, and even if it was just *fun* without a message, it could still be a positive experience in many ways. I think sometimes we are too focused on having meaningful experiences by force, while a simple good laugh, five minutes of rapture or the turbulent confusion of hyperspace can reinforce mental health and relaxation, which often is direly needed, without there being any relevant content in the trip itself.

It was these thoughts that made me more clear on the fact that my use is positive in nature.

Another thing that helped me was this forum and seeing all the amazing people here sharing this experience on their unique paths through life. Getting to know a few members more closely through chat for example allowed me to see how real positive and responsible use is... it's not just a myth we made up to justify drug use!

What also can help is being vigilant about your functioning in your regular life. After a while of seeing that you are doing all you need to be doing, that you are the person you want to be in the life that you are living, you will have no reason to think you are doing anything wrong...

Unless of course you are. Unless your life is not going the way you want and your use is making it worse. Unless your use is estranging you from people and things, or you are becomming obsessed with DMT/psychedelics and start losing the bigger picture that is existence. Harmfull use is also not a myth, so it's a good idea to look deep and see which path you are going and then any negative thoughts that come up, you can just laugh off, because you know they are just fear speaking. Understand the fear and you can conquer it.

 

[Al-Wasi]

Enoon....great post as that's exactly what I needed to hear. That's just the thing I'm doing well in life and better then I have been for awhile. That's why its confusing me when I have these thought.

Really liked what u had to say.

 

[mad_banshee]

I understand your apprehensions. I don't have much of anyone in my life who understands or even knows about my DMT journeys, so I'm very much a closet smoker.
I know that most people in this country are not open to the use of psychedelics, including many close to me. I choose to enjoy my journeys with the conviction that I know I get so much light and energy from DMT that I can't force anyone else to understand that any more than if I "found a new religion."
In my opinion, there are things we do for ourselves without forcing even knowledge of those practices upon others if we know they are good people but not open to acceptance ( mainly due to decades of successful government brainwashing.)
In my opinion, the strong, brave and intelligent do what they need for their own survival, keep what they need private as private, and share the other products of their efforts and goodness in life ( which there is plenty of to go around.)
I really don't think anyone needs to know every last thing about you. I think there are things best left unsaid and unshared with a focus on what makes things better in life for all.
Anyway, so thats my foolosiphy. If I'm wrong, then I guess I'll just go to hell for all eternity, or some other bulls*&t they told me along with the dangers of psychedelics that I choose to ignore. I'm going to be dead for a long time and I'll be damned if I'm going to live my life accepting guilt trips about what I know I love.

 

[Ryusaki]

You can interpret it the same as the natives would do. There is an external guilt/shame spirit entering your space, demanding attention.
Since you already know deep in your heart that you're doing fine without him, he is clearly not welcome.
Burn some Mapacho, blow smoke in his face and tell him to get lost.
Also House ban. :thumb_dow