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finding zinc dust seems to be hard.

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Hi there, after this search:

google:

zinc -womens -shoes -trousers -capsules -tablets -health -human -diet -coat -oxide -spray -shoes -tape -pot -plated -tablet -tablets -capsules -aerosol -extractor -mask -deficient

swim found various small zinc items, (mostly screws, bolts, etc)

and swim wonders if these things can be used (perhaps filed into zinc filings) to convert dmt n-oxide back to dmt freebase.
 
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I think it may be fairly difficult to find zinc powder/dust since I have the feeling that it tends to oxidise pretty vigorously. It's pretty much like you cannot usually buy sodium and potassium dust for the exact same reasons, you just mix with water and see some pretty violent reaction.

What you want is basically a strong reducing agent, i.e. something that will reduce your dimethyl N-oxide back to dimethyl. What I can suggest is sodium nitrite and sodium metabisulfite (aka disodium bisulphite or simply sodium bisulfite), both strong reducing agents and available around me (they are also used as food preservatives)

Now, you just need to know redox potentials of these NaNO2 or Na2S2O5 as well as the redox potential of DMT-N oxide to see whether the reduction will work.

Any good chemists around to shed some light into it? (my guess is that it would work)
 
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swim took chemistry at university level, with pharaceutical chemistry.
but, swim can't for the life of him remeber redox potentials. It was fairly easy, if I remember.

work out your moles, how much you need based on the stoichioemtry, etc. And then look into redox
reactions; which should be fairly straight foward in this case.
 
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I wouldn't recommend pulverising / dusting any commonly zinc material like zinc screws etc. You do not know whether zinc in these materials is oxidised somehow. I would guess people might have used some zinc oxide for these purposes, which of course compromises the reducing potential of pure zinc!
 
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Ronue said:
I think it may be fairly difficult to find zinc powder/dust since I have the feeling that it tends to oxidise pretty vigorously. It's pretty much like you cannot usually buy sodium and potassium dust for the exact same reasons, you just mix with water and see some pretty violent reaction.
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I know of a place that sells all of those, fairly cheap I might add. the only problem is they only ship within the US.
 
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SWIM thanks you all for the tips. 69ron you are famous on the interwebs for your insane knowledge of dmt :p

swim am checking for zinc on eBay etc but was sure that he would have found it by now, as google shopping returned such a pile of junk
so many garbage results. even zinc coloured clothes!
 
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It might be the hydrogen that's doing the reduction, not the zinc (assuming this zinc dust is thrown into an acid solution). Some possible alternatives: aluminium, magnesium, iron powder. Be sure to use this dmt-n-oxide rather than worthless oily crap before wasting time on this ;)
 
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shoe said:
swim am checking for zinc on eBay etc but was sure that he would have found it by now, as google shopping returned such a pile of junk
so many garbage results. even zinc coloured clothes!
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Here’s a tip. Use the special options in Google Shopping to get better results. Try typing the following in Google Shopping and see what you get:


allintitle: "zinc dust"


If you don't put the keyword allintitle: and you don’t wrap "zinc dust" with double quotes then you get a bunch of junk.
 
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ORLY?!

duuuh. try it.

google.co.uk and then that massive search i pasted:

zinc -womens -shoes -trousers -capsules -tablets -health -human -diet -coat -oxide -spray -shoes -tape -pot -plated -tablet -tablets -capsules -aerosol -extractor -mask -deficient

thats the best I can do without going insane!
 
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