First 2 trips

[sauSage]

I've recently begun experimenting with spice. I've researched it for years and in the last 18-24 months gotten very serious about my research and about finally doing it. I have a fair amount of experience with LSD and an extreme amount of experience with cannabis and mdma. I decided to keep as accurate a journal as possible to document each experience. Here I submit my first 2, and then a couple of questions. Enjoy...

July 10, 2012
Dosage - unknown
Method - sandwiched between layers of cannabis
Duration - less than 10 minutes

I put a very fine dusting between layers of weed and did my best to vape it. it took about 30 seconds to hit me and when it did it was like a train. my head felt like it was really congested, the floor started to ripple and i could see every shadow on the barcelona chair. i remember thinking “there’s no way this is going to be gone in 20 minutes”. roughly 5 minutes later the entire experience was over and all i could feel was the weed.


July 11, 2012
Dosage - unknown
Method - sandwiched between layers of cannabis
Duration - less than 10 minutes

I put a small amount in between layers of weed again, no more than a small key bump of blow. I really need to get a proper scale so that I can figgure out exactly how much i’m using. anyway, sandwiched in weed, attempted to vape. got a solid hit in but didn’t hold it long enough, maybe 15 or 20 seconds. barely got a second hit in and held it for maybe 5 seconds. got that feeling in my head and body again and started to see the floor move. this time i sat back on the couch and closed my eyes. i could very faintly make out the patterns and geometric shapes. they were very dark grey, but i could definitely see them. i was hindered a bit by sunlight coming in through the window and it was shining in even though my eyes were closed. i just sat back and watched what i could. after about 5 minutes i opened my eyes and noticed that the floor was no longer moving. a couple of minutes after that I felt the body load completely dissipate.

Questions - clearly I'm vaporizing some of the spice, otherwise I wouldn't be experiencing what I'm getting. can anyone offer any words of wisdom to improve my "smoking in between cannabis" technique. Also, would it be worth it to get a glass pipe and just try to vaporize that way?

I'm slowly getting on the path but could use some assistance. Thanks in advance!

paul

 

[Eliyahu]

I believe it is worth it to acquire a proper smoking device..


Check out this thread i'ts quite relevant


i think I am immune

 

[sauSage]

I believe it is worth it to acquire a proper smoking device..


Check out this thread i'ts quite relevant


i think I am immune

Eliyahu - thank you. Today I actually acquired an oil pipe and this afternoon I had a completely different experience. As soon as I'm done digesting it I'll be posting about it, but let's just say it was beyond description. I have a proper scale coming tomorrow so I'll be able to properly weigh out my doses and accurately track my progress.

Every experience is leaps and bounds past the previous. This journey is amazing.

Ps

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Oil burner pipes are hard to master (so I have heard). You have a high chance of burning the spice. There is a rocking motion you do with the pipe so the pool of now liquid spice doesnt spread out to the sides or pool too much. But I havent used one, just heard from here. I have also heard you can put some copper scrubber in the oil pipe (meth pipe).

The gvg is the best, followed by the vg and the machine, then the oil burner pipe.

 

[Michal_R]

Hello, "paulsage", and welcome to the DMT-Nexus!

I think my colleagues here are right here: proper technique is the crucial point in administering DMT (please, have a look at: DMT vaping guide - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus).

Most of the Nexians here will swear that "GVG" is the best smoking device for DMT: VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
I personally, after buying+trying one, have to agree...

 

[3rdeyeopen]

Sounds like you didn't get a lot in the second hit. My first time I took 15mg and the first hit I only saw black and grey patterns. Tried again about 1/2 hour later with 15mg and was able to get a much bigger hit and hold it in longer and went for a full color ride! Good luck!

 

[sauSage]

Oil burner pipes are hard to master (so I have heard). You have a high chance of burning the spice. There is a rocking motion you do with the pipe so the pool of now liquid spice doesnt spread out to the sides or pool too much. But I havent used one, just heard from here. I have also heard you can put some copper scrubber in the oil pipe (meth pipe).

The gvg is the best, followed by the vg and the machine, then the oil burner pipe.

Kool-Aid,

I actually found the oil pipe to be rather easy to use. Melting the spice and then just slightly rotating the pipe so that it vapes off of the sides. I'm very interested in the GVG and am going to start doing a lot more reading on it.

paulsage