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First a/b extraction
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Go from room temperature, fridge and then freezer overnight. Then pour off naphtha from glass dish through a coffee filter to catch any goodies. Place glass dish upside down at first, prop up one end and place a slow fan on it while it is upside down. When you see all the naphtha is evaporated you can turn dish right side up and allow to fully dry before scraping with razor blade.
If you feel like you have followed all the steps properly and still are coming up with low or no yield you may have a bunk or poor quality MHRB.
If you feel like you have followed all the steps properly and still are coming up with low or no yield you may have a bunk or poor quality MHRB.
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Sweet! I'll try that out next. How much do you usually produce off of 100g mhrb?
Around 2% or a little less so around 2 grams or so from 100g. I have mostly used ACRB and not sure the difference in yields compared to MHRB.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Make sure that you save your naptha. You can reuse naptha quite a bit and also you can pour your naptha back into your base soup jug for each pull to really get the most out of your bark because any dmt that you didn't manage to get to stick to the glass can go back into the base soup jug and will remelt along with the next pull. Keep doing this till you don't see anymore dmt and your bark is pretty much spent at this point.
When mixing in your NPS you also want to make sure you are thoroughly mixing your naptha with the soup before taking your pull. Want to rotate your jug from top to bottom like pedaling a bike slowly then allow layers to separate and repeat this process 4-5 times over the course of an hour or so. If your ratios are good you should see your layers separate pretty fast.
You also want to make sure you aren't using too much NPS. The precipitation is caused by having an NPS that DMT is soluble in at room temperature or slightly heated to achieve max saturation then when the temperature is lowered below the solubility threshold for said NPS (edit: in this case naptha) the DMT begins to "crash out" or precipitate, forming your crystals. The slower this is done the more dense your crystals will form. I like to use thin neck vessels for this reason like an erlemmeyer flask. I generally will only use between 50ml-75ml of naptha for an extraction of 100g of mhrb with about 900ml of water.
If you're still having issues it could just be super low yielding bark but I have confidence there is a work around. My very first extraction I didn't see anything crash out my first pull and was confused because the bark I get is great, once I realized I didn't mix my soup well enough or let it sit long enough and mix it more then I got a fat first yield. Sometimes it just takes a little messing around with. Don't lose hope!
Good luck and safe travels!
When mixing in your NPS you also want to make sure you are thoroughly mixing your naptha with the soup before taking your pull. Want to rotate your jug from top to bottom like pedaling a bike slowly then allow layers to separate and repeat this process 4-5 times over the course of an hour or so. If your ratios are good you should see your layers separate pretty fast.
You also want to make sure you aren't using too much NPS. The precipitation is caused by having an NPS that DMT is soluble in at room temperature or slightly heated to achieve max saturation then when the temperature is lowered below the solubility threshold for said NPS (edit: in this case naptha) the DMT begins to "crash out" or precipitate, forming your crystals. The slower this is done the more dense your crystals will form. I like to use thin neck vessels for this reason like an erlemmeyer flask. I generally will only use between 50ml-75ml of naptha for an extraction of 100g of mhrb with about 900ml of water.
If you're still having issues it could just be super low yielding bark but I have confidence there is a work around. My very first extraction I didn't see anything crash out my first pull and was confused because the bark I get is great, once I realized I didn't mix my soup well enough or let it sit long enough and mix it more then I got a fat first yield. Sometimes it just takes a little messing around with. Don't lose hope!
Good luck and safe travels!
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Nps being naptha? And thanks for the help and words of encouragement.. I'm cool with losing some bark to learn and get better and better as I go. Hopefully, there will be no waste on the next oneMake sure that you save your naptha. You can reuse naptha quite a bit and also you can pour your naptha back into your base soup jug for each pull to really get the most out of your bark because any dmt that you didn't manage to get to stick to the glass can go back into the base soup jug and will remelt along with the next pull. Keep doing this till you don't see anymore dmt and your bark is pretty much spent at this point.
When mixing in your NPS you also want to make sure you are thoroughly mixing your naptha with the soup before taking your pull. Want to rotate your jug from top to bottom like pedaling a bike slowly then allow layers to separate and repeat this process 4-5 times over the course of an hour or so. If your ratios are good you should see your layers separate pretty fast.
You also want to make sure you aren't using too much NPS. The precipitation is caused by over saturation of dmt in your nps. The nps can hold a lot more dmt at room temperature or slightly heated then when it is cooled down so as it cools it begins to "crash out' forming your crystals. The slower this is done the better, more dense your crystals will form. I like to use thin neck vessels for this reason like an erlemmeyer flask. I generally will only use between 50ml-75ml for an extraction of 100g of mhrb with about 900ml of water.
If you're still having issues it could just be super low yielding bark but I have confidence there is a work around. My very first extraction I didn't see anything crash out my first pull and was confused because the bark I get is great, once I realized I didn't mix my soup well enough or let it sit long enough and mix it more then I got a fat first yield. Sometimes it just takes a little messing around with. Don't lose hope!
Good luck and safe travels!
Non-polar solvents but yes in this case naptha, sorry I should have clarified that. There are different NPS's used for different extractions but the concept is the same in that the dmt is soluble in the NPS at a certain temperature and can hold more than it normally can if slightly heated but whatever max saturation is reached for the temperature of said NPS and then lowered you will cause precipitation to occur. It is a lot like making rock candy.
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Naptha is used for the initial pulls because it selects a broad range of alkaloids and dmt is soluble in naptha at room temperature. When slightly heated naptha can hold a lot more dmt than it normally can at room temperature allowing for super saturation but generally all of the pulls can be taken with naptha at room temperature. For re-crystallization generally heptane is used as it selects the dmt molecule more and less of the other alkaloids and dmt isn't very soluble in heptane at room temperature but very soluble when heat is added, making a great candidate for crystal development because you get a longer window to cool your solution down slowly. The slower you cool down your extraction the bigger the crystal development. By bringing this then into freezing temperatures you make sure to get all of the dmt to precipitate out of your nps. If you have it saturated enough you will even start to see crystal development at room temperature.
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Here is a good visual representation of re-crystallization that also helps to get a good idea about what is going on with precipitation and how solubility and temperature play into that
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Forgot to add you can also evaporate some of your NPS before covering to help with saturation. You can tell when you have reached good saturation because youll see cloudy whisps in the naptha. Make sure you only cover with foil do not use plastic or syran wrap. I like to use foil then place a snap lid cover over the top so none of the NPS leaks out into the freezer and also so water doesn't get into your extraction.
I think I got it! White stuff at the bottom is the final product?
