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first breake through!
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BobbyBrazil
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Would love to hear about the experience. Especially since you said you were having trouble breaking through. Please do let us know...
OK! first of all I'd like to say few things about smoking method.
I made some kind of mix of "machine" and "sandwich"
layer of metallic sponge, layer of dmt (50 mg), layer of ash, and a thin layer of another metallic sponge. all this goes in to a souvenir wooden pipe from GOA.
one big hit, holding... vibration of AUM and some shiny golden honey cell pattern coming close to me.
emotion: fear and unstoppable drive to understand and see that dimension by miself.
from that moment i only remember blurry episodes.
cristal clear glass piramides, popping out from each other but they build... no they destroy.
not knowing where am I or am I at all... (I think i was trying to move) but I did not understand what was going on.
moments of distorted room. like when you are asleep and wake up for a second and reality mixes with a dream.
I tried to say something... no it was just "oh" which instantly made resonance and pushed me like an magnet.
few blackouts... remember i was trying to understand what was happening. but I could not. i could see my computer for a second and the room but I was disolved... not seeing myself from other point just I was disolved some kind of transparent cloud...
fear... and asking for mercy... some kind of feeling like someone is really mad at me for entering and being there.
slowly i started to understand what was going on and coming back unconsciously thanking that they let me come back.
things were floating and some kind of layer of mist on every thing around. but i was back and that visual effects was no more interesting.
pure shock!
one thing i know now. you have to prepare your mind to step in to the bardo and learn something.
and for all new comers. THIS IS NOT A DRUG! this is a glance to the dimension of death! respect it and prepare yourselves to it and be thankful for this chance to open your eyes and be ready when there will be no coming back.
P.S.
I'm not shore how much did i smoke from that 50 mg... one hit was enough to die
nether i know how long was i dead.
I made some kind of mix of "machine" and "sandwich"
layer of metallic sponge, layer of dmt (50 mg), layer of ash, and a thin layer of another metallic sponge. all this goes in to a souvenir wooden pipe from GOA.
one big hit, holding... vibration of AUM and some shiny golden honey cell pattern coming close to me.
emotion: fear and unstoppable drive to understand and see that dimension by miself.
from that moment i only remember blurry episodes.
cristal clear glass piramides, popping out from each other but they build... no they destroy.
not knowing where am I or am I at all... (I think i was trying to move) but I did not understand what was going on.
moments of distorted room. like when you are asleep and wake up for a second and reality mixes with a dream.
I tried to say something... no it was just "oh" which instantly made resonance and pushed me like an magnet.
few blackouts... remember i was trying to understand what was happening. but I could not. i could see my computer for a second and the room but I was disolved... not seeing myself from other point just I was disolved some kind of transparent cloud...
fear... and asking for mercy... some kind of feeling like someone is really mad at me for entering and being there.
slowly i started to understand what was going on and coming back unconsciously thanking that they let me come back.
things were floating and some kind of layer of mist on every thing around. but i was back and that visual effects was no more interesting.
pure shock!
one thing i know now. you have to prepare your mind to step in to the bardo and learn something.
and for all new comers. THIS IS NOT A DRUG! this is a glance to the dimension of death! respect it and prepare yourselves to it and be thankful for this chance to open your eyes and be ready when there will be no coming back.
P.S.
I'm not shore how much did i smoke from that 50 mg... one hit was enough to die
nether i know how long was i dead.
BobbyBrazil
Rising Star
- Merits
- 42
wall-iko said:OK! first of all I'd like to say few things about smoking method.
I made some kind of mix of "machine" and "sandwich"
layer of metallic sponge, layer of dmt (50 mg), layer of ash, and a thin layer of another metallic sponge. all this goes in to a souvenir wooden pipe from GOA.
one big hit, holding... vibration of AUM and some shiny golden honey cell pattern coming close to me.
emotion: fear and unstoppable drive to understand and see that dimension by miself.
from that moment i only remember blurry episodes.
cristal clear glass piramides, popping out from each other but they build... no they destroy.
not knowing where am I or am I at all... (I think i was trying to move) but I did not understand what was going on.
moments of distorted room. like when you are asleep and wake up for a second and reality mixes with a dream.
I tried to say something... no it was just "oh" which instantly made resonance and pushed me like an magnet.
few blackouts... remember i was trying to understand what was happening. but I could not. i could see my computer for a second and the room but I was disolved... not seeing myself from other point just I was disolved some kind of transparent cloud...
fear... and asking for mercy... some kind of feeling like someone is really mad at me for entering and being there.
slowly i started to understand what was going on and coming back unconsciously thanking that they let me come back.
things were floating and some kind of layer of mist on every thing around. but i was back and that visual effects was no more interesting.
pure shock!
one thing i know now. you have to prepare your mind to step in to the bardo and learn something.
and for all new comers. THIS IS NOT A DRUG! this is a glance to the dimension of death! respect it and prepare yourselves to it and be thankful for this chance to open your eyes and be ready when there will be no coming back.
P.S.
I'm not shore how much did i smoke from that 50 mg... one hit was enough to die
nether i know how long was i dead.
So now my question is, after all that you described are you planning on doing DMT again? On a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate your experience? 1 being an absolute nightmare and 10 total bliss...
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Great report wall-iko
It's something isn't it :twisted:
There's nothing like when you take that hit, and 'you know' you've done it. Reality dissolving before your eyes; in orderly fashion. Up n around, down n around, through and up and up we go!
Do you plan on going back soon or is a break in store?
DMT no es una broma.. :lol:
It's something isn't it :twisted:
There's nothing like when you take that hit, and 'you know' you've done it. Reality dissolving before your eyes; in orderly fashion. Up n around, down n around, through and up and up we go!
Do you plan on going back soon or is a break in store?
DMT no es una broma.. :lol:
Yup! Horror mixed with surrendering to something "higher".Tattvamasi said:
May be when you need few hits... In my case i do not even remember exhaling. It was too fast! like you see a large hummer in front of you and then there is darkness.Tattvamasi said:
Obviously with this kind of unawareness there will be not much to understand if i go back to "Bardo". So I plan to train my mind before I dare to disturb "them" again.Tattvamasi said:
Emotion and words I remember are: "Ok. Thank you! Thank you for letting me go...". I do not remember why I was saying thins and I do not want my imagination to fill the holes with its "Maya".
I'm planning to do some intense kryas and stretch my body to free some energy blocks and try to go back with guidance of my friend who defiantly knows much more than I (may be I will not). But after that, even if will be full of bliss, I am planning to stop and train hard before i do not get the same effect of falling through in "shavasana".
every single one of 10.BobbyBrazil said:
3rdI said:
110%
If you break through that deep
As I remember This was also reported that human body produces dmt at the moments of birth and death.
Also read "Bardo Thodol" you will find many simillaritys (if i did it from one trip you can do it too)
OK, well a couple of things......
1. im very happy you had the experience you did:thumb_up:
2. how do you know how "deep" your Journey was when you have no frame of reference? im pretty sure that in a years time, if you keep using DMT, you will look back and have a very different view on how "deep" this experience was. I think that it is important to remember that even lower dose/entry experiences can be so completely and utterly mind blowingly earth shattering that it is difficult to comprehend them.
3. The Birth/death thing is pure conjecture with nothing to back it up at all and im pretty sure Strassman has said he regrets putting the idea forward.
4. Im presuming you read "Bardo Thodol" before your experience, do you think this could have had a bearing on the experience
5. im very happy you had the experience you did:thumb_up:
1. im very happy you had the experience you did:thumb_up:
2. how do you know how "deep" your Journey was when you have no frame of reference? im pretty sure that in a years time, if you keep using DMT, you will look back and have a very different view on how "deep" this experience was. I think that it is important to remember that even lower dose/entry experiences can be so completely and utterly mind blowingly earth shattering that it is difficult to comprehend them.
3. The Birth/death thing is pure conjecture with nothing to back it up at all and im pretty sure Strassman has said he regrets putting the idea forward.
4. Im presuming you read "Bardo Thodol" before your experience, do you think this could have had a bearing on the experience
5. im very happy you had the experience you did:thumb_up:
3rdI said:
1. I'm becoming more and more happy too
2. I know one thing that my experience was so deep that my mind was not ready for that and as a deep dream some parts of it was left behind without memory.
I'm not saying that low dose break throughs can be less interesting. But what I'v read from other reports there are lots of reports who think it was break through but from my point of view that experiences are similar to my "coming back" stage.
Of course it will be stupid to argue about this
but this is my point of view and I have my reasons to think about it as a death/rebirth experience. Only way to find out is to really die and that I hope will not be soon 4. Yes I have read that book and many other spiritual books. In fact they effected me as an inception to try DMT. there is no reason for me to use psychedelics other than spiritual research (for fun, weed is my favorite). and YES this is possible that my trip was effected by my knowledge but the same way it can be truth. again there is only one way to find out...
5. thank you!
This is cool. Glad you made it. As far as whether it's a glimpse into death or not ... just wanted to share my ideas.
Don't you think - if you could somehow be fully conscious as a human fetus and experience being born through a woman's vagina - don't you think that the experience of being forced out into the world from within that warm, enclosed, sustaining, womb-like environment would seem a lot like death?
I think I saw in somebody's signature here - we're like caterpillars contemplating pupation. It could be a glimpse into death or it could be something else.
Don't you think - if you could somehow be fully conscious as a human fetus and experience being born through a woman's vagina - don't you think that the experience of being forced out into the world from within that warm, enclosed, sustaining, womb-like environment would seem a lot like death?
I think I saw in somebody's signature here - we're like caterpillars contemplating pupation. It could be a glimpse into death or it could be something else.
I think If I manage to be fully conscious while on DMT I will not have blackouts. My guess is that on that level I will probably float with my emotions and the goal for me will be to detach my self from it and enter the void in other words merge with pure energy.oldsoul said:
Oh yes worm vagina
I like it more when I'm sober and even better when I'm high on weed )ok, ok... In my case there was no experience of womb or vagina or anything physical. I guess describing this like entering the womb and being born again is more like metaphoric becos it's really impossible to describe this emotions by words
Birth
It was more like opening your eyes and do not recognise any object around you (nearest objects: open macBook, pipe in my hand, lighter in other hand, magazine table in front of me. and the whole room...) and at the same time I had a terrifying urge to flee from somewhere.
Some kind of feeling of drowning and urge to breath in and at the same moment some bubble is coming out of you and you urge to shout out and this voice vibrates out from you and covers everything around you and then slowly your mind starts to recover.
Death
After reading Bardo Thodol I was kind of joking about it. about terrifying "gods" with swords and human skulls. I was joking that those gods where too old and why would they still have swords when they can use AK47
)My guess is that "they" showed me some scary shit (more like threw some crazy emotions on me). "Here's how its done you little bitch" style
and I was running away from that with such dedication that at one moment BOOM and next thing was "hello world".
Of course it is arguable that this was my imagination playing with me... But that's what I feel (not believe)
Yea, I hear you, I was getting similar experience to that myself. It makes sense.
But in my last post, what I meant was that, to a fetus, if it was conscious, birth would probably seem like dying (being expelled from the womb, etc). Hence what we think of as death may be actually another kind of birth.
But in my last post, what I meant was that, to a fetus, if it was conscious, birth would probably seem like dying (being expelled from the womb, etc). Hence what we think of as death may be actually another kind of birth.
oldsoul said:
I can start imagining and building some theories but I will not. I am willing to explore and learn that by doing yoga and from time to time going back to DMT.
I would advise you to read "Bardo Thodol The Tibetan Book of Dead", But at the same time I advise you to not believe until you try it and experience it. It's good to be prepared for every thing so Yoga, meditation techniques and kryas are the way of just be ready in any case
P.S.
i like the words from After Earth trailer
do not remember the except words but something like this "Fear is not real, But danger is real"
Sort of off topic, but I noticed, Wall-iko, that you're coming to your 80th post and are still in the nursery, which supports a theory I came up with when I had too much free time: I think after new members cross a certain posting point and have not been promoted (say, about 45), members and mods assume something must be wrong with this person and so avoid voting . . . I've noticed "new" members posting well into the hundreds who've been here for years, and they are still in the nursery, while others are promoted after 2 posts. I expect myself to forever be a suckling babe as well. Not that it really matters to me, these are just perhaps paranoid observations . . . Like I said, too much free time . . .
