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First Experience with Aya

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GaDoomZ

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The dosage was Hostillis 35grams with B. Caapi 100 grams, haven't done many hallucinogens, probably 2 or 3 times before years ago.



I did a regular 6 hour brew, with the egg tannin trick, this is how it came out

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I had fasted for about 24 hours, Consumed the drink about half of it, then I got up and went to my bed to lay down, the movement I believe is what made me throw it up. Luckily there was a prepared garbage next to the bed. Everything came back out, probably about 40 minutes had elapsed. When I began to throw up. I drank the other half and laid down on my bed. Within 10 minutes of consumption I felt an aching pain in my lower stomach, nothing bad.. Just like when you have to goto the toilet and poop haha.

I listened to some trippy old indian trance music my friend had recommended. To this day I cannot listen to it without getting chills, before my trip and during it was fine.

I got the garbage bin prepared as I felt the need to throw up again. But nothing this time. I would close my eyes and see strong visuals of a waterfall drop in a beautiful Amazonian scenery. When my breakthrough came on full force, There was about a thousand eye like things watching me, and I was covered underneath a pile of snakes. I started to get paranoid at first, and freaking out, But I told myself to just go with it. I emerged from the snake pit and all my problems were gone, the eyes disappeared. I felt completely new, no problems, nothing to worry about. After I got rid of the anxiety, journey began.

Early on I remember opening my eyes and one point and saw a bunch of different patterns of shapes and colors. I was still in my room but, It was a completely different place. So I closed my eyes, and I didnt even open them back up, I was so lost within my thoughts. I wish I was able to remember how it looked with my eyes opened, but I only kept it open for not much longer than 5 seconds if that.

The mind itself was created out of nothingness. Because you cannot simply have nothing, the mind had created this Universe and existence, I believe everyone is somehow linked or connected in a way, this was the majority of my experience although I cannot put the rest of it into words and vaguely remember it all. I met an entity who was able to change forms, The entity showed me a different perception of time. Kind of like the end of matrix revolutions when hes get into the room with the creator and views 1000's of different screens at once. We went to the beginning of time and to the end of time. I saw Buddhist monks at the top of mountains, Shamans practicing a ritual, Volcanoes erupting, Hurricanes closing in. And John Lenon, which was a pretty strange figure to see.


What I took away from it is, that reality extends beyond the 3- dimensional reality that we exist in and extends beyond 4th (maybe more) dimensional reality. The only reason we cannot perceive these higher dimensions is because we have been clouding our minds/ and feeding our false ego with low density energies/emotions of fear, greed, hate, which in turn has separated us from our true higher selves. Meditation really is a powerful thing, can help to unlock this.

This isn't the only reality, I now feel as if dreams are really bigger than what we originally thought it to be. Our mind created all of this, all humans are connected somehow. I saw time on a different plane, in a non-linear way. The best way I can describe this is "The Egg" by Andy Weir with a combination of the movie Slacker (1991 version).

To explain what I mean about dimensions, is something I encountered a while ago.
Similar to Plato's Allegory of the cave

We ONLY know the world in Five senses. To feel, taste, see, hear, and Smell. These are the methods we use to interpret the world and universe. Everything we ever learned about the world came from ONLY these senses. All the tools, methods, and various ways we learn all cater to either one of these senses.

There are creatures on this earth who are born without some of these senses. Take for instance the Star Nosed Mole, It is born functionally blind. However, it lives life perfectly fine, because it doesn't know what it feels like to experience sight. (Close your eyes and put yourselves in his shoes if you want). He doesn't know wtf a "Color" is, he doesn't know what movement looks like. Sunshine? Forget about it. Darkness? What? He Doesn't know wtf a cloud is But he knows what it feels like when it rains...etc etc So all these things existing around him all the time, he never knew but never gave a fk either.

--SO..... Lets play god for a second and give this creature sight. *POOF*! YOU CAN SEE NOW MOLE .. automatically this mole is now creaming on himself because he is now witnessing an entire plane of information flooding into his brain. He can now see the world, and experience these "things" that have been going on around him all the time. He is constantly saying to himself "I never knew!" Now he has a deeper understanding of how EXISTENCE works

Now its time for the mind blown portion of this post.

Lets get stupid silly, and imagine if ALIENS came down to earth and "played god" like we did with the mole. They gave us an extra "sense" called Beebly-Feebling. Imagine what this Extra sense would allow us to "experience". things that are occurring around us this whole time that we were not able to "sense". It could be seeing into the future (as rediculous as that sounds, it could be a common ability to some entity in the universe) But basically it could be ANYTHING.

We will never know, because we are just moles who aren't aware of sight even existing.


here is a link for the egg story in case you guys are interested in reading it.


The whole experience probably lasted about 4 to 5 hours, and it was one of the greatest things I had ever done.
I am now much more organized, have less social anxiety, and stopped drinking alcohol (except for the occasional glass of wine).
 
Hello Gadoomz glad to hear hear you had had such a revealing experience, and good read btw.

Your experience definitely sounds like an aya experience, i am sure the stuff you have forgotten will come back in later journey you have.

There is nothing better than being deep in a aya journey, in most cases aya is very comforting and loving, and if you ask the right things you will get the right answers.
 
I feel that it only goes with how you want it to work, When I was paranoid, nothing would happen except being cluttered under snakes and when I decided to just go with it, everything opened up and became a wonderful experience
 
That sounds like an interesting trip, GaDoomZ. I feel the same way about our senses; we may be just like other species who cannot view the universe in its totality due to our biological makeup. I would like to inquire, though, as to whether you've done pharmahuasca in the past prior to this ayahuasca experience. Isn't 35 grams of M. hostilis a bit much for a single dose?
 
Yes 35grams is a super powerful dose haha. No I haven't done Pharmahuasca.
I have done B. Caapi by itself and that gives the person an out of body experience, which is pretty mind blowing as well.
 
GaDoomZ said:
We ONLY know the world in Five senses.

Interestingly, humans actually have something like 15-20 senses that we use to experience the world. There are the 5 external senses that everyone knows about - sight, hearing, touch, smell and taste (though the last two are really just one sense) - but we also perceive balance, acceleration, temperature, pain and kinesthetics (knowing the relative position of our body parts). There are some rather obscure internal senses, too. Some animals can pick up fluctuations in the electric field, detect magnetic influence and perceive polarization of light; therefore, when you consider in how many ways we can draw raw information from our surroundings, it is perfectly plausible that our perceptions of reality are rather blinkered - Plato's cave, as you mentioned.

The reason I bring this is up is because I had a similar thought during my first experience with changa - the notion that, for the 15 minutes my brain was pumped with DMT, I was quite literally perceiving the world with less distortion and clearer signal. Seeing reality closer to how it truly was - more dimensions if you will - without my monkey mind trying to poke it into silly little boxes that served its' biological programming.

The egg story is a great read, too :) Sounds like you had a wonderful journey.

Welcome to the Nexus!
 
Great report, thanks for sharing! Like jerkio said, there are actually way more senses that humans have other than the 5 external ones. Also, one theory I like that may explain our perception of new senses is synesthesia. The mixing of senses (seeing sounds, hearing colors, etc.) could be essentially creating the illusion of a new sense, like Beebly-Feebling. ;) If you count even just our normal 5 senses, you come up with quite a few different permutations. I could be way off here, but I like throwing different ideas out to stir up conversation. :)
 
I will check out Synesthesia later. My first start will be Wikipedia after I finish my work.
Thanks for all the positive response's. I will compose my second experience later tonight or tomorrow. It was a lower dose but I felt it went hand in hand with the first one. Less open-eyed visuals but powerful mind-blowing thoughts.

I actually have a 10 minute video of it, me sitting on the toilet while my roommate records it, some interesting stuff in there but the majority of it is me asking if this is real life.
 
GaDoomZ said:
the majority of it is me asking if this is real life.
I laughed out loud here, reminded me of the video with the kid coming home from the dentist still high on NO2 or something. Looking forward to your next report!
 
DoctorMantus said:
jeriko said:
GaDoomZ said:
We ONLY know the world in Five senses.

Interestingly, humans actually have something like 15-20 senses that we use to experience the world.

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This is very interesting did not know this, thanks for sharing.

I hadn't considered this either, and "The Egg" was very interesting as well. Your report was really well written and I could easily feel the profundity you might have felt as you realized your thoughts.

Cheers, friend.
 
GaDoomZ said:
I listened to some trippy old indian trance music my friend had recommended. To this day I cannot listen to it without getting chills, before my trip and during it was fine.

My cat has has similar experiences. A song will get stuck in his head during a trip and then afterword when he hears that song he gets goosebumps all over his body.
 
35g???...seriosily..why 35g?

I had the most insane out of my body beyond this realm lost in the spirit world for 6 hours experience 2 nights ago with just 5-6g mimosa(ALOT of caapi though)loosing my shit and this is after like way more than 100 ayahuasca sessions..what made you decide to brew 35g:shock: ..either way I guess it's safe to assume you did not prepare a "dud" brew ha...but I mean..35g?

You got off easy with that dose my friend..could have come out of that one ALOT more shook up me thinks:d

At least I am sure you know now, that with a full on ayauhasca submersion into the spirit world there is no debate about this thing..it is REAL..hands down. None of this "its all subjective" bullcrap..I know I know..science right..you drink enough though and you are convinced. It is the ultimate convincer.

Nice report :)
 
Haha man, it was insane. It felt as if I had actually went to another plane. My room was no-where to be found. I did not see/notice many geometric patterns with my eyes closed, although with my eyes open I cant even remember what I was seeing. Starting to think of it my eyes were open for a lot more than I had thought, in hindsight...

I wish I could remember what I saw when I opened my eyes... I will update more if I recollect anything
 
I did have a sitter, he's the one who took the picture, I was still on my journey at that moment (laying on the bed still), I had made it explicitly clear for him not to intervene, unless I started to freakout or have a meltdown.
 
I find this statement curious:

GaDoomZ said:
I emerged from the snake pit and all my problems were gone, the eyes disappeared. I felt completely new, no problems, nothing to worry about. After I got rid of the anxiety, journey began.

The reason I find this curious is because mythologically speaking, in numerous traditional cultures, snakes have been viewed as a symbol of rebirth so it's interesting that upon emerging from the snake pit you describe yourself as feeling "completely new". Just wanted to point that out. Maybe put some more meaning behind the symbols.
 
Thank god you only drank half of it! Honestly that was pretty reckless for your first time.. Reminds me of something my cat would have done when he was younger... My cat is going to be doing aya for the first time very soon and only plans on taking about 2-3g worth... Glad to see that you at least had a sitter. overall, Nice report.

blessings
 
I dunno if its a good idea posting pictures of your accidents here due to your negligence on the set, setting, dose criteiria.

-It doesn't look good for the rest of those who are responsible. Just the kinda post which would be used by authorities to highlight the dangers of foolishness, and that's the last thing we need here.:oops:
 
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