Jagube
Esteemed member
I've had my first two experiences with pharma in the last week or so. I know it's not much, but the difference between that and plant brews is so striking I believe I can share some initial thoughts without getting ahead of myself too much.
I've been drinking Aya-style brews for many years and with some regularity, both in group ceremonies and solo sessions. I've had teas made with B. caapi and P. viridis, D. cabrerana, M. hostilis and A. confusa, and occasionally other admixtures. I've also had teas made with P. harmala on the force side of things.
A few months ago I started extracting harmalas from rue and drinking them (dissolved in vinegar) in combination with crude admixture brews - e.g. extracted harmine/harmaline with Aya-style ACRB or Chaliponga tea. I found that these preparations were not much different to traditional brews. There were differences, but they didn't detract from the quality of the experience; I would still get powerful, healing experiences. I liked it as a cheaperer alternative to caapi, which mimicked it quite well, even though the alkaloid composition was different.
Recently I did my first DMT extraction. It was from MHRB and used lye and naphtha. The resulting product was mostly white and presumably very pure.
When I drank that with extracted harmalas, I was surprised at how different it was. Some of the difference I observed:
- The DMT felt as if it came in chunks, as opposed to the flowing, liquid way of the plant brews. It interacted with my consciousness in a jagged way, like gravel, as opposed to the plants, which are more like magical water filling my consciousness.
- There was no love, no warmth, no emotions, no sense of beauty or divinity.
- The visual aspect was still there, but more abstract.
- Beside the visual aspect, it was purely mental. I still had my short term memory affected, thoughts and ideas mixing and blending, but there didn't seem to be any meaningfulness to it.
- My conclusion was: this is not medicine.
I'm surprised that it was so different. It would seem to suggest that there is much more going in in the light-bearing plants than the DMT; that either the other alkaloids (in some cases trace alkaloids) or something else plays a huge role. And they're all good medicines compared to isolated DMT, so their common denominator may not even be DMT as one would think.
Of all the plants, I'd say it was the closest to Chacruna, but still very different.
Now I realize the extraction technique I used was very pure and other teks (e.g. involving veg oil) may yield broader spectrum products, which may be more medicinal. I'm curious to experiment with those and see how they compare.
For now I'm left with around 1g DMT freebase and I don't know what to do with it. Perhaps, after converting to a salt, it could be used to spice up plant brews and make them stronger without diluting their medicinal properties linearly.
I've been drinking Aya-style brews for many years and with some regularity, both in group ceremonies and solo sessions. I've had teas made with B. caapi and P. viridis, D. cabrerana, M. hostilis and A. confusa, and occasionally other admixtures. I've also had teas made with P. harmala on the force side of things.
A few months ago I started extracting harmalas from rue and drinking them (dissolved in vinegar) in combination with crude admixture brews - e.g. extracted harmine/harmaline with Aya-style ACRB or Chaliponga tea. I found that these preparations were not much different to traditional brews. There were differences, but they didn't detract from the quality of the experience; I would still get powerful, healing experiences. I liked it as a cheaperer alternative to caapi, which mimicked it quite well, even though the alkaloid composition was different.
Recently I did my first DMT extraction. It was from MHRB and used lye and naphtha. The resulting product was mostly white and presumably very pure.
When I drank that with extracted harmalas, I was surprised at how different it was. Some of the difference I observed:
- The DMT felt as if it came in chunks, as opposed to the flowing, liquid way of the plant brews. It interacted with my consciousness in a jagged way, like gravel, as opposed to the plants, which are more like magical water filling my consciousness.
- There was no love, no warmth, no emotions, no sense of beauty or divinity.
- The visual aspect was still there, but more abstract.
- Beside the visual aspect, it was purely mental. I still had my short term memory affected, thoughts and ideas mixing and blending, but there didn't seem to be any meaningfulness to it.
- My conclusion was: this is not medicine.
I'm surprised that it was so different. It would seem to suggest that there is much more going in in the light-bearing plants than the DMT; that either the other alkaloids (in some cases trace alkaloids) or something else plays a huge role. And they're all good medicines compared to isolated DMT, so their common denominator may not even be DMT as one would think.
Of all the plants, I'd say it was the closest to Chacruna, but still very different.
Now I realize the extraction technique I used was very pure and other teks (e.g. involving veg oil) may yield broader spectrum products, which may be more medicinal. I'm curious to experiment with those and see how they compare.
For now I'm left with around 1g DMT freebase and I don't know what to do with it. Perhaps, after converting to a salt, it could be used to spice up plant brews and make them stronger without diluting their medicinal properties linearly.