So I am working on my first real extraction. I tries the poor man's natural method but it didn't come out to well so I redissolved everything and am using napatha and lye now. Here is a picture of what I have now can some one with some experience tell me if this looks any bit right it would be greatly appreciated.
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first extraction tell me how its looking please.
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abusedtoaster
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you might want to try to use less solvent, as less solvent pulls more goodies. looks like youre good to do a pull though. This time, its ok to get a little basic mixture while you are pulling. if you pull it to a fresh jar, the basic material will sink and stick to the bottom of the jar, so you can easily pour the naphtha off into yet another jar.
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it will help if you post a detailed description of what you have done since redissolving everything.
What this is is a broken down batch of some really dirty stuff I got from messing up the poor man method that uses lemon juice canola oil and sodium carbide. I right now am testing to see if the crystals I had but were extremly dirty are salvageable. So I took the crust I had that did contain crystals though and added lye then the solvent hoping I.can recrystalize the goodies. I have no idea if this will work though I'm kinda going out on a limb here hopping I dosnt easy half my bark. I still have some sitting in bowls of the oil and water mix that I'm hopping to salvage as well. If you gave any ideas with saving that it would be appreciated.
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Plus it would be great to tell how much of what you have.. Like 50g of mhrb + 750ml distilled water + 50g of lye mixed then added 30ml of naphtha and rolled on and off for 1 hour and let it sit over night.
Something like that. Plus a step by step of how you got it from one tek to the other.
Cheers!
Something like that. Plus a step by step of how you got it from one tek to the other.
Cheers!
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I wish I could help. But I have only done the STB. But I thought I would ask you to lay everything out on the table. Tell as much steps you did to get to where you are. Plus what we are seeing in the picture. Like what the white liquid is on top. (naphtha?)
Cheers. I hope someone can help you. I know there are some really helpful people here and chemists. So just post and wait to see what they say.
If that is indeed naphtha on top and the white is saturated naphtha, then I would say to do a pull and put it in a jar or glass tupperware tray (not metal!) and stick it in the fridge for 20 minutes and then freezer for 12-24 hours.
Goodluck!
Cheers. I hope someone can help you. I know there are some really helpful people here and chemists. So just post and wait to see what they say.
If that is indeed naphtha on top and the white is saturated naphtha, then I would say to do a pull and put it in a jar or glass tupperware tray (not metal!) and stick it in the fridge for 20 minutes and then freezer for 12-24 hours.
Goodluck!
At this point its hard to say I started with roughly 200gms of acacia confusia that was mixed with the oil Haiti heat of course then I put it in with a lemon juice mixture as a solvent and added sodium carbide. All this has been broken up into a couple different jars. When I went to crystalize it seemed no matter how many times I filtered o got a real nasty liquid however some crystals were present in the end product they were covered with nasty basic. I then decided to use this as a sort of powdered bark and try a regular extraction. I think I may have added a little to much lye though. But losing this small portion of what I have womt be the end of the world
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As far as I know. Lye and water are mixable. Naphtha will never mix with water and lye. Naphtha is not water soluble. But I am not a chemist.
You know what I would do, just wait. Put this aside until someone who knows forsure what is happening comes along and can tell you exactly where you are and what your options are. I would hate to have you get poisoned by your extraction.
So please just hang teight and see what the PROs say. ok?
In the mean time, you could do the nomans tek. Just remember the water ratio in that for the prepowdered bark. If you dont know, please ask and we can help!
Dont give up! You will get it. Just do a STB easy extraction! Then get fancy after on the next tek. The STB was so easy and I got what I needed!
Goodluck!
You know what I would do, just wait. Put this aside until someone who knows forsure what is happening comes along and can tell you exactly where you are and what your options are. I would hate to have you get poisoned by your extraction.
So please just hang teight and see what the PROs say. ok?
In the mean time, you could do the nomans tek. Just remember the water ratio in that for the prepowdered bark. If you dont know, please ask and we can help!
Dont give up! You will get it. Just do a STB easy extraction! Then get fancy after on the next tek. The STB was so easy and I got what I needed!
Goodluck!
If you have a non-polar (naphtha) mixture that you suspect has DMT (what you want) and oils/fats/waxes (what you don't want) there is a simple solution:
- Get vinegar, the clear kind used for making preserves.
- isolate your naphtha from any polar phase that it floats on, if you haven't already.
- add a double to triple amount of vinegar to the naphtha (100 ml naphtha means add 300 ml vinegar).
- shake well, hard and long. Over several days if you like. You're doing a 'reverse' extraction now; your goodies will go into the vinegar while your oils stay in the naphtha.
- Separate vinegar (polar phase) from the naphtha (non-polar phase). Discard naphtha.
- neutralize the vinegar. Use dissolved lye if you want, or saturated solution of Na2CO3. Your solution should become VERY cloudy, like milk, if there 's any substantial amount of DMT in there. It can take a lot of base. don't worry. If at any point you see crystals growing in the now-basified vinegar you've added WAY too much base.
- re-extract 3 times with naphtha, about 1 tenth of the volume of polar phase you have now. (500 ml watery-phase means 3 times with 50 ml naphtha)
- proceed with your naphtha phase as you normally would.
All of this is so much more fun if you invest in a glass separatory-funnel, mind you. Messing about with mason jars just doesn't do it for me.
Peace!
- Get vinegar, the clear kind used for making preserves.
- isolate your naphtha from any polar phase that it floats on, if you haven't already.
- add a double to triple amount of vinegar to the naphtha (100 ml naphtha means add 300 ml vinegar).
- shake well, hard and long. Over several days if you like. You're doing a 'reverse' extraction now; your goodies will go into the vinegar while your oils stay in the naphtha.
- Separate vinegar (polar phase) from the naphtha (non-polar phase). Discard naphtha.
- neutralize the vinegar. Use dissolved lye if you want, or saturated solution of Na2CO3. Your solution should become VERY cloudy, like milk, if there 's any substantial amount of DMT in there. It can take a lot of base. don't worry. If at any point you see crystals growing in the now-basified vinegar you've added WAY too much base.
- re-extract 3 times with naphtha, about 1 tenth of the volume of polar phase you have now. (500 ml watery-phase means 3 times with 50 ml naphtha)
- proceed with your naphtha phase as you normally would.
All of this is so much more fun if you invest in a glass separatory-funnel, mind you. Messing about with mason jars just doesn't do it for me.
Peace!
