- Merits
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I've tried pharma 3 or 4 different times, each time a different way in hopes that I'd find the right combination of ingredients and timing that would result in even a mild experience. Each time was a failure, leaving me feeling nothing but the harmalas. Whilst complaining about this fact in chat, Jorkest mentioned that he had never had a misfire and didn't understand how so many people could have so many problems getting it to work. I asked him for his secret and he suggested the one route I hadn't tried yet - gelcap.
Previously I had tried harmalas and freebase DMT mixed in OJ, lime juice, lemon juice, pretty much anything acidic short of battery acid. Drank the harmalas and then when I felt it hit me, drank the DMT. Always 150mg of harmalas and 20-30mg of DMT. So Jorks suggested I try 150mg of harmalas and 30mg of DMT all mixed up in a gelcap. After some discussion we decided that based on my height and weight maybe I should up both ingredients. In the end the gelcap contained 150mg full spectrum harmala freebase, 50mg freebase harmine and 40ish mg DMT. I poked a few holes on each side of the cap and started to get ready. I hadn't really eaten anything for a few hours, so at 14:20 I ate a banana to get my digestive system going, then at 14:30 I took the gelcap.
The fuzziness of harmalas usually hits me quickly and this case was no different. By 14:45 I had a nice buzz going, but that was it. I gave Jork an update and he suggested I eat something else, but this time something fatty. My wife had just pulled out a pastry with spinach, kale and cheese so I ate a nice slice of that. Jorks advice is that if your body is digesting real food while it's digesting your gelcap it doesn't think "this is poision, I need to vomit", it thinks "this is food, digest it" and it aids in the digestion of the DMT.
I thought maybe a walk would help kick things into gear so at 15:30 I grabbed my wife and we went for a walk to the Apple store, about a half mile from our house. During the walk I began to notice my perspective and the information I was taking in slightly changing. I was *definitely* processing more data and colors seemed brighter. I was noticing slight tracers. At 15:50 we got to the Apple store and I was in full on ramp up mode. I was listening to 3 separate conversations all more than 15 feet away from me on a crowded street, and was processing each one at the same time. I was able to separate the conversations and listen and understand them all simultaneously. It was very strange. I also have no idea how my brain decided on those particular conversations vs the dozens going on around me. We entered the Apple store and I was hit in the face with over stimulation, mostly aurl. I was hearing carrier waves all over the store, but none would connect. One would start to rise, then my brain would hear another one and focus on that and as it started to rise another would pop up. I still wasn't getting much in the way of visuals but then I looked down at the floor and saw the hardwood slats moving independently of each other. I looked at my wife and said "We should leave". As we got out of the store and began our walk home I noticed CEVs every time I would squint my eyes to avoid the sun. We walked around a bit and stopped in a little plaza where the marble tiles are black with spots of white in them. When I looked down the tiles were more animated than anything I'd ever seen in my life. Each tile looked like it's own meteor shower.
We got back home by about 16:40 and I laid down. I was beginning to feel less body load, and the CEVs were very faint so I knew that the experience was winding down. By 17:10 the visuals were extremely faint, slight tracers, no more body load and then by 17:30 there was no DMT left, just the harmalas glow. I vaped hash oil for the rest of the evening and just basked in the afterglow.
All in all the experience was awesome. 3 hours start to finish with a solid 60-75 minute peak, and it definitely gave me a baseline for how much harmalas and dmt to use going forward. I would say that it was like a fairly strong LSD trip, very visual once it got going, great body load, and when it was gone it was gone. This was a great trip to establish a baseline for my body and it worked. I discovered that my body metabolizes harmalas really quickly, so my window to get the DMT in there is short and I could probably benefit from a harmalas booster at about hour 2 just to make sure everything gets MAOI'd.
Now I'm looking forward to my next trip and taking it a little deeper.
*HUGE* thanks to Jorks for all his help and suggestions - he was right, it just worked.
peace
ps
Previously I had tried harmalas and freebase DMT mixed in OJ, lime juice, lemon juice, pretty much anything acidic short of battery acid. Drank the harmalas and then when I felt it hit me, drank the DMT. Always 150mg of harmalas and 20-30mg of DMT. So Jorks suggested I try 150mg of harmalas and 30mg of DMT all mixed up in a gelcap. After some discussion we decided that based on my height and weight maybe I should up both ingredients. In the end the gelcap contained 150mg full spectrum harmala freebase, 50mg freebase harmine and 40ish mg DMT. I poked a few holes on each side of the cap and started to get ready. I hadn't really eaten anything for a few hours, so at 14:20 I ate a banana to get my digestive system going, then at 14:30 I took the gelcap.
The fuzziness of harmalas usually hits me quickly and this case was no different. By 14:45 I had a nice buzz going, but that was it. I gave Jork an update and he suggested I eat something else, but this time something fatty. My wife had just pulled out a pastry with spinach, kale and cheese so I ate a nice slice of that. Jorks advice is that if your body is digesting real food while it's digesting your gelcap it doesn't think "this is poision, I need to vomit", it thinks "this is food, digest it" and it aids in the digestion of the DMT.
I thought maybe a walk would help kick things into gear so at 15:30 I grabbed my wife and we went for a walk to the Apple store, about a half mile from our house. During the walk I began to notice my perspective and the information I was taking in slightly changing. I was *definitely* processing more data and colors seemed brighter. I was noticing slight tracers. At 15:50 we got to the Apple store and I was in full on ramp up mode. I was listening to 3 separate conversations all more than 15 feet away from me on a crowded street, and was processing each one at the same time. I was able to separate the conversations and listen and understand them all simultaneously. It was very strange. I also have no idea how my brain decided on those particular conversations vs the dozens going on around me. We entered the Apple store and I was hit in the face with over stimulation, mostly aurl. I was hearing carrier waves all over the store, but none would connect. One would start to rise, then my brain would hear another one and focus on that and as it started to rise another would pop up. I still wasn't getting much in the way of visuals but then I looked down at the floor and saw the hardwood slats moving independently of each other. I looked at my wife and said "We should leave". As we got out of the store and began our walk home I noticed CEVs every time I would squint my eyes to avoid the sun. We walked around a bit and stopped in a little plaza where the marble tiles are black with spots of white in them. When I looked down the tiles were more animated than anything I'd ever seen in my life. Each tile looked like it's own meteor shower.
We got back home by about 16:40 and I laid down. I was beginning to feel less body load, and the CEVs were very faint so I knew that the experience was winding down. By 17:10 the visuals were extremely faint, slight tracers, no more body load and then by 17:30 there was no DMT left, just the harmalas glow. I vaped hash oil for the rest of the evening and just basked in the afterglow.
All in all the experience was awesome. 3 hours start to finish with a solid 60-75 minute peak, and it definitely gave me a baseline for how much harmalas and dmt to use going forward. I would say that it was like a fairly strong LSD trip, very visual once it got going, great body load, and when it was gone it was gone. This was a great trip to establish a baseline for my body and it worked. I discovered that my body metabolizes harmalas really quickly, so my window to get the DMT in there is short and I could probably benefit from a harmalas booster at about hour 2 just to make sure everything gets MAOI'd.
Now I'm looking forward to my next trip and taking it a little deeper.
*HUGE* thanks to Jorks for all his help and suggestions - he was right, it just worked.
peace
ps
glad to get you got it to work and had a good experience.
