First time Cactus (+LSD) questions

[Fractalyzed]

So it's time i dive into the divinity of the cactus, and i'm at quite the stall right now in deciding how much and method of prep with all the information out there.

The plan is to combine LSD and mescaline with my very significant other.
It is our first time dealing with cacti, but we've both broken through on dmt, brewed ayahuasca, 7g of shrooms, countless doses of LSD, so we want to dive in pretty deep into what this teacher has to offer.
The LSD dosage will be 100mcg +/- along with the cactus.

Initially, i planned on getting a 12" cutting for each of us and brewing a tea, though i'm not sure 12" will be enough.
I hear so much about dried skins and powder being a better choice that i don't know which to approach, though, or the method to prep these.

• Taking the LSD into consideration, what dosage would be appropriate for a thorough mescaline experience? (how many inches of fresh or how many grams of dried skin)
• What are methods of prep for dried skins? Would a tea suffice? What's a good total time of simmer/boil?

I was gonna follow one of these 2 teks Mycotopia - Irishlion or House's Tea Tek

•I also heard about using a pressure cooker(preferred): Boil cuttings first until foaming stops, then put in pressure cooker for 45 min @ 15 PSI. Is that all there is to it? Just one pull?
Also, do i have to worry about over boiling/heating the cactus? I've heard that it's possible to decrease potency though mescaline supposedly isnt degraded by heat.

I'm not interested in doing an alk extraction; i want a straightforward form of consumption.
•What method do you guys suggest and what are the general steps?
Any suggestions or improvements, links, ideas, comments are welcome.

Supplier will be either 'gotcacti' (fresh bridgesii) or 'medicinemanherbals'(san pedro skins) depending on what type of cactus and method you guys recommend.

Thanks, dear Nexus.

 

[mew]

i recommend fresh cacti
that supplier (which you should edit out, and only discuss in the supplier section) is reliable source of potent achuma
im not sure what you want out of this, you could have 8 hours of break through or 14 of awesome groovin

as always i advocated purchasing fresh cacti for its legal preservation and your safety. my preferred method of ingestion is to despine and deskin the cactus, then dry the outter 5 mm of dark green flesh and powder it. dice the cores, freeze them, then brew the frozen chunks twice for 2 hours each with a twist of lemon, combine+ filter+ reduce both teas, and evaporate on a pie dish inside a dehydrator (resin tek, using only cores)

with this resin you mix your outter green flesh powder into it homogenously, making cactus marbles (about 1 cm diameter) swallow these with minimal calorie free fluid at sunset after fasting since dinner the night before. lay on your back after showering and taking care of your teeth for about 3 hours (this greatly reduces nausea)

dosage relevant to this prep, 1 foot of skins and core resin is a good place to start, ive known a couple people who have broken through on dmt and dosed considerably with lsd to be overwhelmed by this, ive also known people to have a great time. i have never done cactus and lsd, though i have used it with lsa in doses as high as 1.5 feet skins and core resin (10 hbwr)

1.5 feet of this mix is borderline entheogenic, 2 feet is entheogenic, 3 feet is totally unnecessary. with your dose of lsd i would recommend you and your partner dosing 1.5 feet of skins and core resin after fasting and such.
id probably dose the lsd about 1.5-2 hours into the experience so they compliment each other

consider having 150-200 mg of harmalas capped and ready to go for t+5 hours, if your experience is not as strong as you wish it to be. this will synergize with both medicines, but especially with the lsd.

mews two cents

:3

 

[Eliyahu]

I second what mew says about fresh cactus, it's IMO superior to pure mescaline...

what I have observed from taking LSD and Cactus together is that, If you take enough cactus the LSD only adds to the cactus experience, the cactus is definitely the dominant force between the two.

For example I once took 400mg of mescaline and then 500+mics of LSD 4 hours later.. Even though this LSD dose was massive, the mescaline still dominated the experience by a long shot. (NOTE: this was a really, really intense trip. Would definitely NOT recommend this type of dosage to anyone but the MOST serious psychedelic explorer)

 

[Fractalyzed]

Ah, resin doesn't sound as bad as i thought it did.

What's worse on the nausea, the tea or resin?


I haven't found much on mesc+LSD combo, but i've read that L mainly potentiates the cactus. A 1.5 ft of bridgesii and Lucy trip enough to show me the way of mesc?
Should i go with bridgesii or a different variety?

 

[Eliyahu]

I personally thought resin was harder to digest. Tea tastes much worse, take your pick I suppose. Personally I prefer the effect of the tea, but it tastes way, way bad so I condense it into single shot.

bridgeissi is the most potent...honestly 1.5 would be a lot for me especially all at once.

Have you taken cactus before?

 

[Fractalyzed]

I don't really mind taste because i can get it over with quick and easy.
Nausea on the other hand...

This is my first time trying cactus, but i want more than an intro dose. I feel confident about it, especially since i'm gonna be accompanied by someone special.

Does anyone have more info or specifics on pressure cooking the cactus?

 

[SHroomtroll]

Why would you want to combine cacti with lsd the first time you do it?

Its probably a nice combo but still i think it would be better to just feel the plant without any additives exceot maybe weed or some harmalas.

Cacti is already somewhat lsd like so i dont know what the acid really could add to the exp.

Just prepare 3-4feet and start with one each, if you arent where you want bby t +3-4 just eat the rest

 

[mew]

i find that the resin made from filtered tea is less nauseating and less offensive to my taste, the trick with the resin is to coat it in something so that it dosent stick to your mouth/throat. this is dually benefited by using the more potent flesh as a powder after mixing homogenously. 1.5 feet of resin and skin is not enough to enter visionary depths, wheresas 2 feet is, however with the addition of lsd, im certain 1.5 feet is what you seek. ive eaten fresh bridgesii for the last 4 years and out of all methods of extraction (mesc hcl/acetate, tea resin, alcohol resins, powdered flesh/whole cacti, and tea) the resin made from the cores mixed with the powdered outter 5 mm of despined deskined flesh is the BEST way to do this. least nausea, least taste, most bang for your buck, and luck for your trouble.

again my opinion from my experience

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

i dont know what the acid really could add to the exp.

i've read that L mainly potentiates the cactus

If you take enough cactus the LSD only adds to the cactus experience, the cactus is definitely the dominant force between the two.

"i am the weaver"

 

[Eliyahu]

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-Sounds to me like mew knows his cactus medicines. I would go with whatever he recommends.

Tea resin sounds great, I have not tried it... I have only had the ethanol extracted cactus tar and it was worth about 2 hours of nausea.

 

[mew]

@ eliyahu

i hope i wasnt offensive

 

[autumnsphere]

For example I once took 400mg of mescaline and then 500+mics of LSD 4 hours later.. Even though this LSD dose was massive, the mescaline still dominated the experience by a long shot. (NOTE: this was a really, really intense trip. Would definitely NOT recommend this type of dosage to anyone but the MOST serious psychedelic explorer)

Whoa man, this does sound insane... I will try to combine them tonite, will let you know how it goes.

 

[autumnsphere]

OK, I did try it, it was a hell of a ride... But the LSD was definitely the dominant power. The mescaline gave me the energy to see what LSD showed me.

The trip was like 15-16 hours, in the end I just wanted to sleeeeeep but I couldn't - it was all just so perfect, divine and overwhelmingly beautiful...

 

[mew]

what were your doses and when did you take them. did you fast, and keep the fast?

 

[autumnsphere]

Ehm - 25g. mescaline (although I burned the thing a little while brewing it) and 130 acid.

The mescaline effect was weak (prolly cause I burned it), I had some visions but not full-blown, so I decided to take Lucy on the ride as well.

 

[autumnsphere]

And by the way... the net is full of pansies - the tea doesn't taste bad at all. Have you tasted liquid Novalgin (Metamizole)? Now THIS is what I call bitter. Mescaline is ambrosia compared to Novalgin.

 

[mew]

most likely because your tea was impotent

 

[autumnsphere]

That too, yeah...