First time extracting ACRB

[Shadowlord]

Hey all,
Nothing special here other than I'll be reporting on the results of my first attempts using ACRB rather than MHRB.
Like MHRB, simmering ACRB for an A/B extraction seems never ending. I keep getting more color and never feel like I got everything out and tend to overdo it, I'm sure.
Been simmering for a couple days, getting ready to do a decant to remove the solids and then basify in a cold water bath so as to not have the solution heated too much.
Have read some great threads here on working with ACRB and you'll see a lot of those ttechniques get used in my extractions.
Working with 250g from the kilo I picked up and if the results are anywhere near what I've heard is possible, I'll be reordering and stocking up.
Wish me luck folks.....

 

[--Shadow]

How finely ground is your bark?

I followed Cyb's tex, and never need to discard any solids... makes it so much easier and cleaner!

 

[Earthwalker]

How finely ground is your bark?

I followed Cyb's tex, and never need to discard any solids... makes it so much easier and cleaner!

I totaly agree with Shadow ,I'm a fellow lover of Cybs TEK's but it may shock some ppl with that statement g,day Poads IMO they are the way to go , esp if you're the patient type and want to put love into it , the max-ion is at the forefront of the perfect extraction , you can do it without the boils , no filtering , it's so much cleaner , it exhaust's the bark within 6 . 7 pulls , once cleaned up it produces perfect white fluff :thumb_up: I'm yeilding on the border of 2% a lot of ppl don't even get close to that with quality MHRB , but that's with pristine quality barks !! :thumb_up: I wish you the fullest of all dish's !:d

 

[Shadowlord]

Thanks guys! The bark is really nice and finely ground. So much nicer smelling than mhrb lol.
I'll look up the tek you mentioned and see what I can take from it.
I'll finish this one up and post results and see what I'll do differently on the next one.
Quick and efficient is always an attractive option haha.

 

[Earthwalker]

This vendor came recommended to me and his previous recommendations have all proved out. .

As you will already know , but if not there's no mentioning any vendor or even talk of it !

Can't wait to see you're results !!

 

[Shadowlord]

Ooops.
Been some changes since I was around much last. Post edited.
Looked at the teks and got the cyb's max ion pdf and reading away.
Thanks Earthwalker.

 

[Earthwalker]

Ooops.
Been some changes since I was around much last. Post edited.
Looked at the teks and got the cyb's max ion pdf and reading away.
Thanks Earthwalker.

You're very welcome Shadowlord , this is what the nexus is all about , sharing and evolving into a true entheogenic university ! And it takes each & everyone of us to put back what this forum has given out , and it truelly is a gift in it's own rite !

 

[Shadowlord]

You're very welcome Shadowlord , this is what the nexus is all about , sharing and evolving into a true entheogenic university ! And it takes each & everyone of us to put back what this forum has given out , and it truelly is a gift in it's own rite !

Right on, I couldn't agree more.

 

[Shadowlord]

Here's my humble extraction tools. Simmered at least 10X at 3 hrs each. Still getting color as seen in the vase. Nalgene bottle is full of much darker and thicker liquid from all the pulls and reduced. Have let settle so, after pour off, should have some nice clean tea to extract from.
Will most likely basifiy today. Will have to use a good cold bath as the pulls still smell vinegary and will likely heat up quite a bit when the lye is added.
Will add further pics. And if I need to do the mini A/B on the end I'll be able to break out the separatory funnel
Usually only get to use that with mescaline extracting but enjoy having it for sure.

 

[Shadowlord]

Decided to do one last 3hr simmer and am amazed at how deeply colored it came out. Sat on my stove all week and sitting thusly, while acidic, helped release more actives.
Regardless, I saved the bark I strained back out, which is most of it and will keep it just in case. Will freeze and thaw my bark several times prior to extracting next time.
Pics of the heavily reduced tea and this last pull that is standing until it settles then the final reduction.

 

[Earthwalker]

You really are exhausting that bark of every little molecule Shadowlord ! Have fun :thumb_up:

 

[Shadowlord]

Hopefully I'm getting everything.
Added some basic water to the pulls. Didn't turn black like I normally see with mhrb.
Tested the pH, although it's only strips, and it came out at 13. Will just have to wait and see how things turn out.
Saved all the bark and sediment in case I did something wrong.
Pics of the soup and the leftovers.....

 

[Earthwalker]

Oh that looks very thick Shadowlord !! Are you sure it's thin enough for that nps to touch every it of that hopefully saturated liquid ??
Also you realize ppl are gunna have a go at you using plastic hey !!

 

[Shadowlord]

Top pic is the basified aqueous.
Bottom is the bark I've saved in case I made an error.
Figure I'd be able to acidify and simmer something simply enough but you never know sometimes lol.
Consistency is nice and thin, just didn't go black like mhrb has. Will start solvent pulls and see what I've got here.

 

[Earthwalker]

Top pic is the basified aqueous.
Bottom is the bark I've saved in case I made an error.
Figure I'd be able to acidify and simmer something simply enough but you never know sometimes lol.
Consistency is nice and thin, just didn't go black like mhrb has. Will start solvent pulls and see what I've got here.

Should go a little darker wats the ph ! Also with liptus paper it's hard sometimes because of the dark colours !!
But You would no you're ext routine !:thumb_up:

 

[Shadowlord]

I was surprised that it didn't turn black since others using acrb have it go black.
That's why I wanted to save the bark. That and I usually like to stb anything that's supposed to be exhausted just to be sure.
Having not worked with acrb b4 I am being careful. Seems like it is getting darker, may be a slow reaction from acidic to basic, not sure. I guess we'll see soon.
The pH is supposedly 14 after another test. Not surprising as I used 125g of lye in a minimal amount of water. All was allowed to cool overnight b4 I mixed the acidic pulls with the base water.

 

[Shadowlord]

Okay, left things sit and made more base water to get the level where I wanted it to be on the jug. Have been heating naphtha in a water bath and doing my pulls. The solvent has stayed nice and clear and clouds up heavily like one would hope to see. Fingers crossed.
Heading out for more solvent as I will continue to pull as long as I am seeing the right signs.
Will post pics of the results after precipitation.
No defats were done, will re dissolve and do the mini a/b if needed.
Coming down the stretch now.

 

[Shadowlord]

Pics of the solvent pulls and again after being lightly blown upon and clouded up.

 

[Shadowlord]

Well, something went awry.
Either I need to boil, rather than simmer, during the acidic phase or I didn't mix the solvent and aqueous layer sufficiently. I used a heat bath to heat the solvent and pulled solvent back out quickly so as to not lose too much of the heat and ability to hold dmt.
The yield is very low and a lot of the white melted again at room temp. Will post pics once it dries. Glad I still have everything. Will do more pulls on the aqueous and basify the bark I saved and extract it and back salt it if required.
Pics and more updates to come. Not giving up at first sign of trouble.

 

[Earthwalker]

Well, something went awry.
I didn't mix the solvent and aqueous layer sufficiently. I used a heat bath to heat the solvent and pulled solvent back out quickly so as to not lose too much of the heat and ability to hold dmt. Not giving up at first sign of trouble.

How many times did you mix and separate the nps and when you did mix it did you give it a good shake or gently roll ??

Advice ;; you don't need to rush to mix the nps whilste it's still warm as it's not going to be that saturated that you lose anything , even if it was you pick it up in the next pull !!