First time giving pharma! Need advice!

[Not I but We]

I greatly appreciate the concern everyone has for me this community is filled with caring people.

That story was indeed very crazy, and I have been through such experiences. Ones where I was sure I lost everything that ever mattered to me and I would never get it back. One time in particular was one of the most terrifying moments of my life, how ever in retrospect it was also one of the most valuable. I learned more about myself as a person from that experience than almost any other I can think of.

I know I will make it through the experience, and I am ready for what ever it will bring. I trust my friend very much and he has yet to give a person a bad experience at these doses. I am going to respect his practice and follow his instructions.

Again thank you all for your concern, I really do appreciate it. I will be back to let everyone know how it goes.

 

[DMTripper]

My mistake was not to start low. But I think it was more the amount of harmalas than DMT that made things so bad. I'm very sensitive to harmalas. I've done caapi only brews from only 25gr. of caapi that were quite strong for me.

Why are you so determined to go for such a big dose. Maybe you're very sensitive to this. Why not start lower on your first pharma trip?

I should have done only 150-200mg's of harmalas and 50-60mg's of DMT. And I hardly ate anything the whole day before.
Well I hope you don't have to go through something like I did.

Good luck!

 

[Not I but We]

It's that I'm determined to try such a high dose, I just want a proper dose and since everyone makes it different and administers differently I want to go along with the instructions that I received from the person who made it. He's seen nothing but success in his practice.

Let you all know how it goes in a few hours!

 

[John Smith]

I find that with Pharma my suggestabily goes to 100%. Everything I read or anything being said to me is absolutely true. Reading nexus can be really fun and strange but 1 fearmongering post can make it absolute hell. I remember a while back I clicked on a youtube link about G20 cops. For a few hours I was absolutely convinced cops are busting through my door soon any minute, and everything 'sketchy'(including powdered supplements and white crystalline nootropics :roll: were flushed). Never again. Hence having a people around can almost never go wrong. A simple 'everything is going be alright' from a friend or a roommate can turn a trip around. On the other hand being alone can turn absolutely dreadful. I've read your report DMTripper, are you seriously going to stop because of a difficult trip ?

 

[Not I but We]

Hello everyone!

I had an amazing experience. I took 3gms of rue and 150mg of spice.

I had a mild but extremely meaningful experience.

I thank everyone for their concern, it's truly appreciated, but I think this is a great example of trusting your gut and doing what feels right

 

[DMTripper]

Hello everyone!

I had an amazing experience. I took 3gms of rue and 150mg of spice.

I had a mild but extremely meaningful experience.

I thank everyone for their concern, it's truly appreciated, but I think this is a great example of trusting your gut and doing what feels right

Great that worked out Good you didn't take more rue. I've never mixed DMT with rue. Only done a little experimenting with rue solo. Ate 1.5 grams once with almost no effect. I think my seeds are not good.

 

[tetra]

Glad you took the plunge and know what to expect. Imagine if you'd taken 40mgs, what a bummer that would be. I just swallowed 5gms syrian rue and will soon drink down 202mgs DMT (202 because I overshot the 200 mark), which is up 20mgs from my last pharma with 5gms rue, 183gms DMT. I find increasing oral DMT by 20mgs per journey to be a good way to find your sweet spot (still searching for mine)

 

[ragabr]

Great to hear it went well! If it was mild, it sounds like the Rue wasn't enough for you. With a solid dose, you'll be feeling the harmalas for a while after the DMT clears your system.

 

[Global]

Great that worked out Good you didn't take more rue. I've never mixed DMT with rue. Only done a little experimenting with rue solo. Ate 1.5 grams once with almost no effect. I think my seeds are not good.

I rarely notice too much of an effect with the seeds alone, yet they still clearly do their job in potentiating, lengthening the duration and making active oral spice. 1.5g also isn't really a lot. I would start at 3g, but I would add 50mg spice --- that is if you ever plan on working with spice again.

 

[Not I but We]

I am definitely planning on doing further experimentation. I have another 3gms of rue and and I think next time ill up it to about 180-200mgs of spice.

I would like however to get more rue and perform the extraction. Perhaps this will help make the MAOIs more active? I have never done any extraction on my own, but I know there are plenty of instruction on this website.

I wonder how Chunga compares to pharma. I also wonder how difficult it is to make all the ingredients for that on my own... like I said I haven't made anything on my own yet. Where is a good place to start?

 

[ragabr]

A rue extraction is extremely easy and satisfying, doesn't require anything you don't already have around the house except maybe sodium carbonate.

The DMT extraction will require mimosa and lye or lime, and a non-polar solvent. Even easier than the rue extraction though.

Edit: for changa, you'll probably want some caapi leaves.