First time on 2C-B <3

[justine]

I've experimented with pure 2C-B HBr IN (between 15 and 25mg) and I find it really awesome, moreover with this ROA there is no body load and it combines
very well with AMT freebase (vaporized with a GVG).

 

[rOm]

This combo of phen and tryptamine, namlely 2C-B and AMT seems very appealing to me, justine, thanks for posting it.

 

[justine]

By the way I can give you a little tip to make the insufflation less painful (not that it's unbearable, far from it but that way it's much smoother) : clean your nostrils with
saline water before insufflation to enhance absorbtion, it really seems to make a great deal of difference for me.

 

[Purges]

^^ or just don't snort the stuff, DAMN it burns!!! :shock: 25mg of the stuff I had was a STRONG trip, like a high dose of LSD but with a fraction of the mind fuckyness of cid...

As for the AMT combo? Hmmm, I have been sitting on some AMT freebase for a while now, should really get round to trying it at some point...

 

[justine]

^^ or just don't snort the stuff, DAMN it burns!!! :shock: 25mg of the stuff I had was a STRONG trip, like a high dose of LSD but with a fraction of the mind fuckyness of cid...

As for the AMT combo? Hmmm, I have been sitting on some AMT freebase for a while now, should really get round to trying it at some point...

Maybe you snorted the HCl salt ? It is very little water soluble as opposed to the HBr salt (so the HCl burns more).

I like the fact that when snorted the comeup is very fast, then it comes down at t+3h and I am back at baseline after 4h.

 

[Shaolin]

By the way I can give you a little tip to make the insufflation less painful (not that it's unbearable, far from it but that way it's much smoother) : clean your nostrils with
saline water before insufflation to enhance absorbtion, it really seems to make a great deal of difference for me.

Does this work for all substances via this ROA ?

 

[Purges]

^^ or just don't snort the stuff, DAMN it burns!!! :shock: 25mg of the stuff I had was a STRONG trip, like a high dose of LSD but with a fraction of the mind fuckyness of cid...

As for the AMT combo? Hmmm, I have been sitting on some AMT freebase for a while now, should really get round to trying it at some point...

Maybe you snorted the HCl salt ? It is very little water soluble as opposed to the HBr salt (so the HCl burns more).

I like the fact that when snorted the comeup is very fast, then it comes down at t+3h and I am back at baseline after 4h.

Possibly. Yeah the come up is very quick which I like, but I have had 8+ hrs off insufflated 2CB before. Which may be due to it being a salt?

 

[justine]

By the way I can give you a little tip to make the insufflation less painful (not that it's unbearable, far from it but that way it's much smoother) : clean your nostrils with
saline water before insufflation to enhance absorbtion, it really seems to make a great deal of difference for me.

Does this work for all substances via this ROA ?

Probably, but I can't be sure since 2C-B is the only substance I insufflate.

 

[justine]

^^ or just don't snort the stuff, DAMN it burns!!! :shock: 25mg of the stuff I had was a STRONG trip, like a high dose of LSD but with a fraction of the mind fuckyness of cid...

As for the AMT combo? Hmmm, I have been sitting on some AMT freebase for a while now, should really get round to trying it at some point...

Maybe you snorted the HCl salt ? It is very little water soluble as opposed to the HBr salt (so the HCl burns more).

I like the fact that when snorted the comeup is very fast, then it comes down at t+3h and I am back at baseline after 4h.

Possibly. Yeah the come up is very quick which I like, but I have had 8+ hrs off insufflated 2CB before. Which may be due to it being a salt?

2C-B is always found as a salt (either HCl or HBr), the freebase is an oil.

I have no explanation for the long duration of some of your 2C-B trips, I also know some people who trip 8h on 4-HO-MET while it only lasts 3-4h for me.

 

[Lil_Rainbow]

Sigh, I have done it too much in the last month. 3 times. I went for it again this weekend with some MD before hand, but had too much MD and really monged myself out. The had the 2C and it was all too much and I just wanted to go to sleep. Had some pretty visions but nothing as good as the last time I did it.

Good advice on the cleaning out your nostrils before you do it though Thanks for that. In all honestly I think I am going to give it a good long break before I venture back

LR xx

 

[justine]

Sigh, I have done it too much in the last month. 3 times. I went for it again this weekend with some MD before hand, but had too much MD and really monged myself out. The had the 2C and it was all too much and I just wanted to go to sleep. Had some pretty visions but nothing as good as the last time I did it.

Good advice on the cleaning out your nostrils before you do it though Thanks for that. In all honestly I think I am going to give it a good long break before I venture back

LR xx

The best protocol, discovered by psychiatrist in the 70s-80s is to take a full mdma dose (120-150mg) and add 2CB only on the comedown :

Many of the reports that have come in over the years have mentioned the combination of MDMA and 2C-B. The most successful reports have followed a program in which the two drugs are not used at the same time, nor even too closely spaced. It appears that the optimum time for the 2C-B is at, or just before, the final baseline recovery of the MDMA. It is as if the mental and emotional discoveries can be mobilized, and something done about them. This combination has several enthusiastic advocates in the psychotherapy world, and should be the basis of careful research when these materials become legal, and accepted by the medical community.

Also, you should take a look at the book From Thanatos to Eros, they write about the therapeutic use of MDMA, 2CB and other psychedelics, it's available for free online : http://www.maps.org/t2e/

 

[Lil_Rainbow]

Sigh, I have done it too much in the last month. 3 times. I went for it again this weekend with some MD before hand, but had too much MD and really monged myself out. The had the 2C and it was all too much and I just wanted to go to sleep. Had some pretty visions but nothing as good as the last time I did it.

Good advice on the cleaning out your nostrils before you do it though Thanks for that. In all honestly I think I am going to give it a good long break before I venture back

LR xx

The best protocol, discovered by psychiatrist in the 70s-80s is to take a full mdma dose (120-150mg) and add 2CB only on the comedown :

Many of the reports that have come in over the years have mentioned the combination of MDMA and 2C-B. The most successful reports have followed a program in which the two drugs are not used at the same time, nor even too closely spaced. It appears that the optimum time for the 2C-B is at, or just before, the final baseline recovery of the MDMA. It is as if the mental and emotional discoveries can be mobilized, and something done about them. This combination has several enthusiastic advocates in the psychotherapy world, and should be the basis of careful research when these materials become legal, and accepted by the medical community.

Also, you should take a look at the book From Thanatos to Eros, they write about the therapeutic use of MDMA, 2CB and other psychedelics, it's available for free online : http://www.maps.org/t2e/

Ahhhhh. Ok, I think I was just too keen to get on the 2CB train again. The last time I did it I was almost fully down and it worked amazingly

LR xx

 

[justine]

If you are in search of healing and transcendance let 2 weeks between each 2CB journey and 3 months between each MDMA+2CB trip. That way effects will
be optimal and you won't lose the magic of MDMA.

Good trips!

 

[JesusGreen]

So I finally got my hands on some 2C-B. 25mg to be precise.

I've tried 2C-E before at varying doses and when taking orally I love it - though when snorted the burn really isn't worth it.

I'm thinking I'll take the whole 25mg orally, but I might risk insufflation again so I can split it into two doses of 10mg and 15mg and get two experiences from it.

How do you think it would be at a reggae/hip hop concert? I'm going to one next friday and thought it'd be the perfect place to try it out

 

[Lil_Rainbow]

So, since starting this thread I have played about with 2CB in various forms, capsules and pills.

Until Friday I came to the conclusion that the pill had zilch on the capsules. It looks like I was wrong there. After going out to a club and having about 80mg of MD I came back home once I felt suitably down from the MD. I took somewhere between 36mg-40mg of 2CB. I went into this like a bull in a china shop and really did not consider the fact it was a different batch of tablets I was taking and that I really didn’t know how strong they were. First thing is I am pretty small and have not had anything 2C wise in well over 2 months. Secondly the most I have ever taken in one go was 30mg and that was after having 15mg to start with. So this was my biggest does ever but I thought I was ready for it and I could handle it. I came up VERY quickly on it maybe within 30 mins. It was strong but I was having a good time. I was getting good open eye visuals and my fairy lights looked beautiful when they were twinkling in my bedroom  I got a little giggly which is always nice. As time went by I was tripping harder than I have ever tripped for a sustained amount of time. It was still alright though. I have having some really cool closed eye visuals. I was seeing ALL sorts of Egyptian imagery which was a new one for me. The body load was pretty harsh but I can cope with it pretty well and it wasn’t too much of an issue. With my eyes open everything was rainbow/ bubble vision. It was starting to get a little too much. I thought I would just lie down close my eyes and see where it took me. I think at one point I was pretty close slipping away into nothingness. It was still ok though.

Then from nowhere (it was 6am by this point) I got a text from a very close friend asking if I was awake. I was awake but I was an absolute mess and really didn’t know what was and what wasn’t real, regardless I was still ok and having fun. I called my friend back who was literally in floods and floods of tears. Her friend had tried to kill himself that night.

While that was sobering it took me I would say a good 2 minutes to fathom what she was trying to tell me. Which doesn’t seem like long but in my mind at the time it seemed like a life time and was very frustrating for me as I was able to tell that we was upset and I wanted to do what I was able to in regards to helping/ being there for her. The room I am in pretty much went silent when I was telling her to calm down and slowly tell me what happened. I got the story from her and seemed to come round a good fair bit and gave her some reassuring words when she told me she felt like it was her fault and she should have know etc...
By then end of the call which lasted about 16 mins she was laughing and I think she was reassured to have been able to speak to someone. I managed to calm her down to the extent we spoke about other things and generally made her feel a bit better. I told her to stay in contact with me and just let me know what was going on and she was ok.
When I put the phone down I felt like absolute shit. I was so unbelievable pissed off with myself for ending up in such a state where I couldn’t be there for one of my friends when she needed me. I felt like I had been little to no help at all.

This immediately put me in to a weird introspective NIGHTMARE of shittyness that to some extent I am still dwelling on. Meh.

So all in all I was loving the places I was going before that happened even though it was a bit much for me. Lesson learned in respect to not knowing exactly how much I am taking and going into it with such a wreck less attitude. I was just really keen to explore the playground. Next time I will pay much closer attention to my dose.

LR xx