Any advice? Pretty experienced with psychedelic states, just thought maybe some cactus veterans would have some words of wisdom.
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nicechrisman
Kin
Ingest as few calories as possible leading up do and during the initial phases of the trip. Fasting the whole day prior intensifies the effect quite a lot.
nicechrisman said:
Thanks I will definitely do that then
Here are my tips:
* Drink a nice cup of coffee before taking the cactus.
* Take the cactus early in the morning. The mescaline will last long and will prevent you from sleeping at night if you take it too late in the day. I prefer to take it around 9:00 AM.
* Versus nausea: get some essential lemon oil. Drop about 10 drops in a gelcap, close the gelcap and swallow this with lots of water. For me this helps much better than ginger.
* On the come down drink a few nice beers, I love the synergy of this. Don't drink too much, just a few beers. Due to the mescaline still active you will not get tipsy in the head but you will feel the euphoric rush of it.
* Don't smoke DMT with mescaline. It is not dangerous or something but the mescaline is a stronger antagonist and will prevent DMT from taking it's action. So in my opinion smoking DMT on cactus is a bit of a waste.
* Enjoy it, if possible, with friends. Cactus is a good social entheogen, you will probably enjoy this more with a few relaxed friends. Make sure that that one dude who always spoils a good moment is not invited.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
* Drink a nice cup of coffee before taking the cactus.
* Take the cactus early in the morning. The mescaline will last long and will prevent you from sleeping at night if you take it too late in the day. I prefer to take it around 9:00 AM.
* Versus nausea: get some essential lemon oil. Drop about 10 drops in a gelcap, close the gelcap and swallow this with lots of water. For me this helps much better than ginger.
* On the come down drink a few nice beers, I love the synergy of this. Don't drink too much, just a few beers. Due to the mescaline still active you will not get tipsy in the head but you will feel the euphoric rush of it.
* Don't smoke DMT with mescaline. It is not dangerous or something but the mescaline is a stronger antagonist and will prevent DMT from taking it's action. So in my opinion smoking DMT on cactus is a bit of a waste.
* Enjoy it, if possible, with friends. Cactus is a good social entheogen, you will probably enjoy this more with a few relaxed friends. Make sure that that one dude who always spoils a good moment is not invited.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
so whats the plan, tea, extract? what are your expectations?...
if yo want to get really high, hopefully your cactus is particularly strong, or you can take a big dose, as the best way to enhance a mescaline trip is to just ingest more mescaline
i've never fasted before a trip, my stomach feels better if its not empty when i dose
that said, i like a moderate does and an energy drink for a day of adventure( hiking, exploring, etc)
and i agree w/ Trav, a few shots during your come down can be nice. But i think smoking dmt on mescaline can be productive to some extent, and definitely enjoyable.
good luck Sky
if yo want to get really high, hopefully your cactus is particularly strong, or you can take a big dose, as the best way to enhance a mescaline trip is to just ingest more mescaline
i've never fasted before a trip, my stomach feels better if its not empty when i dose
that said, i like a moderate does and an energy drink for a day of adventure( hiking, exploring, etc)
and i agree w/ Trav, a few shots during your come down can be nice. But i think smoking dmt on mescaline can be productive to some extent, and definitely enjoyable.
good luck Sky
staresatwalls
Rising Star
i've only done it once and it went great with absolutely no stomach pain. what i did that worked out great was i ate some full spectrum goo on an empty stomach in the morning by myself in a park. had a great day in the woods. but i would definitely recommend some laying down in a dark room or something as always.
CuriousSeeker
Rising Star
To the many good suggestions here I'll add that meditating a few times during the days before ingesting cactus helps establish my intent, which sometimes guides the trip into useful therapy, and other times is only an afterthought. Knowing why I'm entering the space gives me a reason to be there and reduces anxiety, and makes the inevitable nausea a trade off rather than an impediment.
This is the most healing entheogen I've ever used. I freaking love mescaline!
Have a wonderful time, Sky Motion! Be sure to spend time looking at clouds.
Peace.
This is the most healing entheogen I've ever used. I freaking love mescaline!
Have a wonderful time, Sky Motion! Be sure to spend time looking at clouds.
Peace.
Thanks for all the tips guys much appreciated,
Here is a few details for clarification:
Dose is unknown.
I will be in nature at a music festival.
I will drink around 10 a.m.
I have loads of beer on hand just from the environment (thanks trav for the suggestion)
Maybe I'll write a report after if it is significant..which it usually is
Here is a few details for clarification:
Dose is unknown.
I will be in nature at a music festival.
I will drink around 10 a.m.
I have loads of beer on hand just from the environment (thanks trav for the suggestion)
Maybe I'll write a report after if it is significant..which it usually is
CuriousSeeker
Rising Star
The body load can be significant so make sure you have a place to crash if you need to lie down for a while, and keep a barf bag with you too, just in case...
ipumaestro
catdestined
since your dose is unknown be sure to have somone able and willing to sit you if you become comatose/ overwhelmed. bring earplugs to stop the festival noise if you decide to escape to a quiet place.
fasting for 12 hours drastically increases the cacti's effects, and not eating for 5 hours keeps the fullest effects ensured. when you eat youll notice an immediate come down, a very relaxed feeling, but a less introspective/aware one
id like to point out that i prefer to dose cacti at night (for entheogenic use), earlier if youre using it for recreational purposes
i dont like drinking beer on cacti as i feel bloated, liquor solves that. drinkin on cacti transforms the experience into some more shallow and often more suitable for use socially.
i like smoking dmt on cacti, i dont smoke dmt any other time anymore. this a good way to make a medium experience instantly stronger and taper off quickly enough to keep on with your whatever you had planned. i find that using cacti as a platform for dmt launch seemlessly seggweighs into hyperspace without my usual frantic sober thoughts (as i am centered on cacti)
smoking ganja makes the experience stronger for a few hours, becareful to take just one hit at your peak if its not strong enough and wait 20 min for full effects. smoking too much too quickly while peaking/ before your peak is a recipe for snowballing paranoia. however ive never had ganja+cacti become too much. later on, smoke more and more, its like you have smoking super powers, you never get too stoned or tired to quit, its just more and more fun.i miss this a bit.
for the first few hours be sure to be laying on your back, this reduces all unmanagable amounts of nausea. only get up when you feel comfortable doing a few situps or your burps dont taste terrible/inspire you to gag.
best of luck and remember it cant kill you.
fasting for 12 hours drastically increases the cacti's effects, and not eating for 5 hours keeps the fullest effects ensured. when you eat youll notice an immediate come down, a very relaxed feeling, but a less introspective/aware one
id like to point out that i prefer to dose cacti at night (for entheogenic use), earlier if youre using it for recreational purposes
i dont like drinking beer on cacti as i feel bloated, liquor solves that. drinkin on cacti transforms the experience into some more shallow and often more suitable for use socially.
i like smoking dmt on cacti, i dont smoke dmt any other time anymore. this a good way to make a medium experience instantly stronger and taper off quickly enough to keep on with your whatever you had planned. i find that using cacti as a platform for dmt launch seemlessly seggweighs into hyperspace without my usual frantic sober thoughts (as i am centered on cacti)
smoking ganja makes the experience stronger for a few hours, becareful to take just one hit at your peak if its not strong enough and wait 20 min for full effects. smoking too much too quickly while peaking/ before your peak is a recipe for snowballing paranoia. however ive never had ganja+cacti become too much. later on, smoke more and more, its like you have smoking super powers, you never get too stoned or tired to quit, its just more and more fun.i miss this a bit.
for the first few hours be sure to be laying on your back, this reduces all unmanagable amounts of nausea. only get up when you feel comfortable doing a few situps or your burps dont taste terrible/inspire you to gag.
best of luck and remember it cant kill you.
ipumaestro
catdestined
nicechrisman said:
kudos friend, this is how its done
nicechrisman
Kin
yeah, I learned that from somebody who used to post here
