Swim has successfully extracted DMT from mimosa hostilis root bark numerous times with great success. Recently picked up some powdered San pedro to try my luck with an a/b extract using xylene. The more swim read the more hazey that tek with all the different a/b's used became. So went old school and just want to verify what swim has done should produce results. Boiled 150g in filtered water and reduced to dark runny slime. Used coffee press to get as much slime as I could into another container leaving the solid in coffee press. Added water to coffee press reboiled and repeated this 2 more time. Put those three pulls into a skillet and boiled over medium heat until it became a thick tar line substance and put that into freezer for less messy doing. Is this right and what is a good starter dose of this this resin line material. Tyia.
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NIce - but there's no need to use, nor any value in using, "SWIM" here. It just makes the posts harder to read.
Add to this the fact that you're using a powdered material of unknown providence, and you'll maybe see why we recommend obtaining a live specimen of a known active clone and growing it yourself. There are risks associated with using material which you did not prepare yourself from fresh plant cuttings.
You might want to take a look at the CIELO extraction instead. This way you'd end up with a measurable amount of material with a reasonable assurance of purity. That said, there are some more cactus resin threads around here from which you'd likely glean some useful dosage information - but again, it's a bit hit-and-miss to extrapolate from someone else's experience when you're using cactus material from an unknown source [i.e., in terms of the species, variety, and growing and harvesting conditions along with post-harvest treatment: dark storage of cactus cuttings for a month or more can increase their potency by a significant amount.]
Or you could aim for a ballpark dosage estimate by calculating the likely percentage strength of an average San Pedro powder, convert that to the ratio of resin obtained from the amount of powder you used and cross your fingers. Some resin is nonetheless unexpectedly potent on account of the secondary substances contained in some varieties of cactus. This adds a further nuance of variability in potential outcomes when using a crude plant extract such as this. That is to say, even if you were to obtain the percentage mescaline content of your resin through some kind of chemical analysis, there would still be the possibility of effects diverging from the expected level of intensity or duration on account of this. See @blig-blug's recent experience report on cactus resin for a bit of insight on the topic.
Having a play with the search function might lead you towards some further helpful information as well.
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There's no way of telling without doing some kind of test. You may have to use the approach known by some as "running up", where you start off by taking a carefully measured, small amount, and then increase the dose incrementally on successive occasions. Mescaline's slow possibly onset makes this a little trickier as well, since you may be tempted to take more before it has properly kicked in.
Add to this the fact that you're using a powdered material of unknown providence, and you'll maybe see why we recommend obtaining a live specimen of a known active clone and growing it yourself. There are risks associated with using material which you did not prepare yourself from fresh plant cuttings.
You might want to take a look at the CIELO extraction instead. This way you'd end up with a measurable amount of material with a reasonable assurance of purity. That said, there are some more cactus resin threads around here from which you'd likely glean some useful dosage information - but again, it's a bit hit-and-miss to extrapolate from someone else's experience when you're using cactus material from an unknown source [i.e., in terms of the species, variety, and growing and harvesting conditions along with post-harvest treatment: dark storage of cactus cuttings for a month or more can increase their potency by a significant amount.]
Or you could aim for a ballpark dosage estimate by calculating the likely percentage strength of an average San Pedro powder, convert that to the ratio of resin obtained from the amount of powder you used and cross your fingers. Some resin is nonetheless unexpectedly potent on account of the secondary substances contained in some varieties of cactus. This adds a further nuance of variability in potential outcomes when using a crude plant extract such as this. That is to say, even if you were to obtain the percentage mescaline content of your resin through some kind of chemical analysis, there would still be the possibility of effects diverging from the expected level of intensity or duration on account of this. See @blig-blug's recent experience report on cactus resin for a bit of insight on the topic.
Having a play with the search function might lead you towards some further helpful information as well.
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How about at least taking a look at the cactus potency threads beforehand? While mescaline, from a mental perspective, will tend to be relatively forgiving to dose, there are several reports on here where people find out what it's like to bite off more than they can chew. Because, when you've taken a lot of mescaline in one go, it's going to last for a loooong time.
Then again, it should work as a superb way to learn some humility if that's what you're looking for
When I say fairly experienced I mean 10 plus Acid trips if I had to guess I'd say 3-400 DMT trips and upwards of 2-300 mushroom trips dosing at no less than 4 g for at least half of those.
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