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Flashbacks, seeing into the bigger picture ?

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tropane

tropane

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SWIM says the following:

That many many time since he's started using DMT, he gets "flashbacks" ... nothing like on tv but,
strong feelings and vague visual imagery. It's a bit more intense than a simple thought but, nothing
like tripping.

He notices that certain things trigger these flashes. Even visiting this site.
Religious documents and sites, large scale events (like natural disasters), and many other things
also cause these, even certain commercials and TV shows composed in the right manner..

If any of you know the feeling of DMT ripping you apart, taking you to the other side,
these flashes kinda make him feel the opposite like, everything is being pulled back to him,
the whole scene. Almost like he may actually be getting somewhere.

After these flashes his mind proceeds to show him past (actual) dreams and "dreams" he's had, like tapping into
sub-concious memory or something. He also notes a general shift in his err .. being? feelings?
It's so hard to describe.

The combination of DMT and ESPECIALLY these flashes have brought him to such a tranquil state of being
that it's almost unreal.

There's so much more to these then he's said but, it's too hard to describe exactly what he means and feels.

.....

Honestly, I'm not sure where he intended on going with this information.
I suppose he's mainly curious to see other people's responses to see if they're experiencing the same thing.
If they are, he'd really like to pinpoint exactly what is going on.
Though, he's learned that the more you learn from DMT, the more questions you have.

Peace.
 
A human can experience psychedelic style visual phenomenon without psychedelics. SWIM used to occasionally when he was a child. Usually they were fever induced, but not always.

SWIM has used psychedelics for several decades. Since he was a teenager he’s used mushrooms and LSD thousands of times and never once had any kind of “flashback” at all. I don’t think its at all related to the DMT. I think you’ve just learned how to identify it better. You’ve probably always had those episodes but just didn’t notice it because you had nothing to relate it to and now you do. It’s like when you learn a new word. Suddenly you hear that word all over the place. But the word existed before you ever knew it, it’s just that you become aware of it and so it seems to be suddenly all over the place.
 
like ron i have always had symptoms of hppd prior to any intake of hallucinogens... i just didnt pay attention to them now i have these all the time sometimes more intensely then others.. i have noticed also that things can trigger it.. sometimes when im thinking about lsd things will start to wave as if i were on it and i accept it as normal thinking yup thats just what you things would be doing lol it just seems normal to me now

my thinking is we have learned to use something, unlocked something if you will.. i feel like i can control my perception... and its not a subconscious thing like i will be staring at an object and i can focus on it and feel something switch in my brain and fall into that "trip mode" and will the object to deform... my friend used the analogy that i have opened the door so many times its starting to get worn so when i leave it doesnt shut all the way... i laughed and said the wind blew the door in, it lays broken on the floor adjacent to the open door frame

joke that it may be to me it is more or less the truth.. symptoms of HPPD are only a part of what i have noticed from my... extensive use
things while still if not more so are beautiful and complex.. its like everything matters less and less technical terms to describe the things i feel would be something like derealization, depersonalization, dissociative disorder...

i know full well what has caused all this.. NOT the chemicals... they are benign without our minds. its never ever the chemicals fault... its me and i know this

even still i regret nothing
things happened as they were meant to
 
psychosisdoses said:
and its not a subconscious thing like i will be staring at an object and i can focus on it and feel something switch in my brain and fall into that "trip mode"
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very much this. when I sit and let everything relax, I can think about letting go...and a tone becomes present in my head. it's like I can hear and feel my brain working more. I sit and think a lot before I go to sleep "what's in front of me is not very important" and visual data starts to drift, fade out. shimmer. cycle through blackness in waves.

but it's not arresting. at any moment I can shake my head a little and everything is as usual.
 
When you said its more of a coming back to you versus ripping apart, it struck a chord.

This same thing happens often(if its the same thing), the triggers are pretty much the same. Lately it has been able to induce it as well. It started with emulating the experience without the sacrament, just to see.

A little background, this situation pertains to 5-meo cases only, nn research has yet to occur.

These flashes, also seem like a throwing open of the veils so to speak. It says this, because it comes with glimpses of things(concepts and understandings), before thought to not fit into the 3d, parts of the experience that It could only refind in meditation and dreams.
If It believes in the concept of enlightenment, perhaps it would be to be operating from 'the empty space'(dmt space) all of the time, a task that It now believes is a process of remembering how we are already always there.

It has been (successfully)trying to induce these states and remain focussed on them for prolonged periods. It seems, that its not so much that there are triggers that trigger this occurence, but that there are triggers that trigger ego systems which inhibit these occurences. It is of such current understanding, that these flashbacks, are our natural state resuming itself gradually. It says this, because when just sitting and day dreaming, or when sitting and meditating, or when dreaming, the experience quite often manifests. That which the experience entails, gives the validity of afore mentioned accusations. :?: 😉 :idea:
 
every time the sky is blue, a vortex unfolds in the centre of my vision, like the surface of water flowing into one point.
ever since I took my first psychedelic [morning glory seeds].
Thats the best one, although I get other minor distortions from time to time, objects breathing, sometimes scurrying around the corners of my sight.

Something that happened when I was on shrooms, was an experience of de ja vu,
something happening in the present reminded me that I had already experienced it in a dream,
and the thing that happened in the dream was informed by something that happened in the past, in a memory
and so past, present and future were all connected by these obscure dream links...

It doesnt make much sense, and I thought it was just an aspect of the trip, but that weird feeling has come back a few times
and its such a strange sensation...indescribable.

A kind of flashback that isnt directly related to changes in sensory perception
 
This poster (printed on papyrus) has this strange transcendence, if you will. Don't know if it has to do with the fact that it was purchased in Egypt or if its just merely the mellow undertone of its color, luminosity, etc. Art has a major pull into the experience.


Transference of objects into building blocks turning into pyramidal shapes, is one major OEV that seems to recur in SWIM subliminal occurrences with the spice. SWIMS stereo system gets smaller, plants don't have their lifelike appeal, and light seems to dissipate into a scheme of arrangement into a vast ordain city.. connecting to another source of 'greetings'. Recurrences of this is no more apparent than day to day life.

Strange no doubt, but when you get lost in a painting of sorts, the peripherals lock out and connection with what's in front becomes priority. My own keen eye takes a collective piece of work and brings inner workings to the canvas. If its so easy to say you can control these perceptions with a bit of willpower than its no different from moving a stencil.
 
Speaking for "him":

kaos.underwave said:
every time the sky is blue, a vortex unfolds in the centre of my vision, like the surface of water flowing into one point.
ever since I took my first psychedelic [morning glory seeds].
Thats the best one, although I get other minor distortions from time to time, objects breathing, sometimes scurrying around the corners of my sight.

Something that happened when I was on shrooms, was an experience of de ja vu,
something happening in the present reminded me that I had already experienced it in a dream,
and the thing that happened in the dream was informed by something that happened in the past, in a memory
and so past, present and future were all connected by these obscure dream links...

It doesnt make much sense, and I thought it was just an aspect of the trip, but that weird feeling has come back a few times
and its such a strange sensation...indescribable.

A kind of flashback that isnt directly related to changes in sensory perception
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Your vortex sounds more like an aura caused from a migraine or epilepsy.
People often think of migraines and epilepsy wrong.
It doesn't have to be killer pain or, flopping like a fish, respectfully.

Look into "Juvenille Myoclonic Epilepsy" and see how much sounds familiar ...
Doesn't mean you'd have any physically visible symptoms.

Just mentioning this because this is something I've dealt with alot of my life, these deja-vu (well before drugs)
and "auras" (especialy a vortex)... I've only ever had a couple actual seizures though.

Not trying to freak ya out lol just, saying maybe these aren't exactly what you think they are :/.
Nothing life-threatening though. Actually, I've learned to appreciate this flux in my brain.

Note: This 'deja-vu' from my JME is not like the 'flashes' that were described...
 
Thanks for your views!

Man oh man oh man... SWIM doesn't know what to think anymore.
Life now is not what it use to be... So much more simple yet, exponentially more complex.

So great and so confusing at the same time.

"Here's to DMT my friends"

peace.
 
thanks for the tip, but actually...none of it seems familiar. never had a migraine. or a myclonic jerk, except hiccups of course.

The thing that convinces me its not those things, apart from not having any other symptoms, is that the vortex appears today exactly the same as it did in that first experience. In fact the 'ripple vortex' was the only notable facet of the morning glory experience, the only real OEV [no CEVs]... And I was well pleased because I'd managed to procure my first hallucination, and it was soooo beautiful.
Imagine my surprise when I went out the next day and it was there again. I can recall it now at will, although if its not blue sky I have to concentrate very hard. If its a nice day it comes by itself every time. If I sit and concentrate under the big blue I can make it grow bigger and bigger, though I cant get it to fill my vision completely yet.

Its great that you can appreciate the good side of things - although seizures sucks, I do hope you maybe see a similar thing, because its gorgeous! Ive spent whole days just lying in the sun watching it flow endlessly...makes me feel so lucky.

Its also weird that your "flashbacks" seem to be triggered by concepts like a religious theme or natural disaster...never heard of that before. The mind is a damn strange thing. Is there a theme present in the triggers that relates perhaps to something you experienced prior to or while using dmt one time?

I do know that every psychedelic I've taken contributes in its own way to the times when I spin out for no reason at all. After freebasing dmt a few times, the way every little shape crawls and comes alive on its own little path; after snorting ketamine, the rainbow vibrations of lines and edges; after mushrooms, the breathing and cartoony sphericalisation of flat surfaces... I definitely think 69ron hit the nail on the head with the analogy of new words...every time I acquire a certain amount of experience with a new sensory phenomena, its like learning a new trick. And I like to think the visual phenomena is only the most overt, and a small proportion of, the other, subtler changes that must have taken place in mind as a result of collecting this information.
 
To kaos... It's a good thing nothing else sounds familiar .. it was simply the way you described it
that made me worry for a minute lol. Then again, maybe my vortex isn't quite related to my JME :). Who knows.

There is a familiar mmm "thing" (dunno what to call it) in SWIMS triggers.
It's usually related to the state of the world, everyone, and everything.
If you know what I mean.

Really, trying to get a view of the bigger picture in any way causes SWIM to get these flashes... Even if
it's as simple as comparing commercials to the trashy way certain companies treat the world as a whole, like
evangelist commercials-> thoughts of christianity -> religion -> world's religious state ...
Kind of like an uncontrollable cascading effect.

In that instance, once the thoughts hit "world's religious state", that's when his flashes start.
 
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