for the sake of us all, help

[332211]

So I tried to improve myself since this experience, work out, eat healthy, be a nice person, be less selfish.

I hit my GVG again today and, sorry for all of us, this experience is not an illusion. It happened again. I did not lift off completely, but in the blink of an eye I remembered all of my previous dmt experiences, which add up to one long story now, with the above described experience as the (so far) last chapter.

What really troubles me is, they do not exist just in hyperspace. They are part of our society and there are lots and lots of people that act in this way.

The really bad news is, this is not a joke, this is war. And we are losing it.

I am utterly hopeless.

 

[anrchy]

It sounds to me like you are interpreting your experiences incorrectly. Like you are taking too seriously what you see. These experiences are suppose to be about you and your connection to everything.

You are also bordering sounding delusional and i think you should put the pipe down for awhile. There are no absolute truths to be found using dmt.

 

[expandaneum]

hey 332211

Are you serious that we are losing it? your post sound more that you might be loosing it. In my opinion the experiences never give messages this literal and usually take some time to decipher themselves.

take care

 

[332211]

guys, thanks for your answers.

thanks for being so openly concerning my mental health. my impression is, i am pretty down to earth. no hallucinations, no conspiracy theories etc.

how about a little experiment: go outside to a frequented place of your town and look into people's faces and try to see, what they express. if you see one of 10 people smiling, you hit a jackpot.

what i see is, how torn their faces are, how exhausted, deeply hurt. and i connect that with the last chapter of my experience.

it is pretty hard to grasp if you do not experience it by yourself. all i can say is, that i can see all the suffering in a persons face.

look at the state of our planet, global warming and what for? mass consumerism. we do not just kill ourselves with pointless work but also our planet.

maybe this experience is just symbolic for that but my feeling is, that this world becomes colder and colder everyday.

 

[obliguhl]

whenever we do something selfish or waste our time, they get stronger.

Then don't!

I hear ya though....your posts very much resonate with what i have experienced on dmt and mushrooms. Most people are so caught up in their negativity, that there is no way out for them in their lifetime. Even if they believe they're doing good...they don't. The vibe they are putting out is ripping through space and time so to speak, canceling out all that is good.

It is a sad, sad story...but there is, of course, the other side of it which is hope, joy and love. I do strongly believe that you are beeing taught a specific lesson. But the content of this lesson is not all there is...

 

[expandaneum]

Im sorry I must have misinterpreted your post, in my experience most people I meet are happy. And yes more than one in ten is smiling.
On the case that the world is changing for the worst is also the opposite of what i see, not that i don't know there are some major issues to overcome by humanity. But in generally most people mean well and try to make the best of it.
Hopefully in the future more and more people will make there decisions based on knowledge rather than tradition and or religion.
Take care and smile yourself and shine your light upon others, they might just start to smile back.

 

[anrchy]

^^

Exactly my thoughts about the world.

I feel that if anyone starts having negative side effects from dmt use it is a clear sign to put it off for awhile. For instance if you become more depressed about the worlds problems or see no end to the negativity, or its effecting your emotions in any negative ways. If any of these reflect you then you know what i suggest.

 

[332211]

obliguhl, thank you! you explained it very well, that people are caught up in their negativity. and i felt that they are doing it on purpose.

they know that they feed from us and they choose to do it. that is what upsets me the most. they don't fucking care about the others as long as they can play their dirty game.

expandaneum, be blessed for your openness. the possibility to lose it on dmt is definitly there and i will treat it with even more respect.

my girlfriend lived in another city before, and she mentioned that our current city has a very negative vibe for her. closed minded.

psychedelics changed me and my view an the world, i lost lots of illusions about our society. this is obviously reflected in this experience, that is the other side of the coin. egocentricity is the major problem we have to overcome, or at least some of us to prevent the ship from sinking.

anrchy, i did take a break for about a month, but the topic still was the same. it seems like there is a story written and everytime i do dmt a new part is added. seems like i have to pass through that.

the first experiences where about oneness of everything, then it shifted to the possibility that i could connect the paradise of love and oneness from the dmt real and our world.

the entities communicated how it could be done but after coming down i was always baffled and the instructions were forgotten and made no sense anymore till the next trip, when everything was crystal clear again till the comedown.

and the last chapter is this prison like, unavoidable, weakening and getting leeched out scenario.

i cant just forget it and go on. it feels like, if there is nothing done about this, we are lost forever.

so please, if you have any idea what is going on, let me know.

 

[anrchy]

What do you mean by "connect the paradise of love and oneness from the dmt real and our world"?

Do you mean metaphorically by spreading more positivity and practicing kindness? Or...

 

[Spiralout]

Ok, so whether or not everyone else is being negative is completely besides the point. If you want to be happy and loving , then be happy and loving and all that goes with that. If you focus on other peoples negativity then you will become negative. So why not become loving and then the possibility will open that other people will focus on how you live and love and start to do so themselves?

"Be the change you wish to see in the world."

 

[Spiralout]

Also what happened in your DMT ventures doesn't really matter right now. What you are doing NOW matters. Maybe it showed you the negativity so you could learn how to avoid it? Avoiding negative behaviors, thinking etc. is just as important as instilling new positive and loving behavior and thinking.

 

[SynKyd]

332211-

Thank you for being brave and honest in your posts, I think you are on the right track to turn things around soon. I would suggest you take a break from psychs until you are feeling better about yourself and the world. They can help show you your path but you must choose it on your own.

I hear what you're saying, don't get me wrong. My last few mushroom trips have turned into mental marathons where I worked through my regrets of feeling selfish for tripping, and not hanging with my kids or doing things I should be doing in life with higher priority. What I always come back to is the same thought: I am ok. I am the only one looking out for me. I am responsible for my own happiness.

Take charge of your life, set your intentions every day before you get out of bed. Reflect nightly on what you added to the collective consciousness and if you were a positive influence for others. You cannot solve this situation in one day or with one small change, but you can solve it eventually through diligent attention to yourdaily patterns and routines.

I truly believe your dmt experiences recently are a reflection of your current mindset, it doesn't matter how long you take a break if that isn't changing.

Peace

 

[obliguhl]

they know that they feed from us and they choose to do it. that is what upsets me the most. they don't fucking care about the others as long as they can play their dirty game.

I interpreted it differently:

THE VIBES - I would "lock on" to a person trying to connect, but most of the time I would FAIL, because most of them were covered in a "suit of hate". Then it HIT ME:

We forget that we send out vibes of hate because we are SO FUCKED UP in our heads that we don't even realize how much our hateful body language and behaviour spreads negative emotions everywhere we go. Mushrooms seem to allow this realization, that we need to loosen up in order to treat fellow humans right, with love. Reflections on Magic Mushrooms - Generic - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

Is my interpretation wrong?

 

[332211]

anchry, yes, i mean "or". when the first couple experiences with this topos ended, it felt so real that i asked some friends if they felt or saw anything special in the last couple of minutes.

it felt like everything and everyone worked togwther to realize this plan. and yes, at this point i can understand anyone who says that this is delusional because even i see that this is kind of nuts.

gapping holes of hyperspace in midair in front of you through which this love and kindness streams into our world is a bit much to grasp. but it felt so real. and the heck, why shouldnt it be possible?

spractral, well spoken. since i started using psychedelics this was always my goal and i think i changed profoundly. you could call it a miracle. but seeing all the suffering of other people and not wanting to help them does not fit together, right

sinysterkid, you are absolutely right and i wish you all the best. we seem to share quite a length of the path we have to go, your thoughts about doing what has to be done instead of wasting time is very familiar for me.

maybe that is the main message, if we dont change ourselves we will be overpowered one day by forces we could have stopped if we just had used our time wisely.

obliguhl, intersting point but i think it is not me that is spreading this feeling of terror. i try to be as helpful as i can wherever i go, this change came maybe some months ago so i am still in practice. but i really try it and i had some successes in helping others.

but you never know, i will definitly meditate about that and be even more alert.

thanks guys, you really are a big support.

 

[obliguhl]

obliguhl, intersting point but i think it is not me that is spreading this feeling of terror. i try to be as helpful as i can wherever i go, this change came maybe some months ago so i am still in practice. but i really try it and i had some successes in helping others.

I know, i know...
You have a good heart, i can feel it. Do your best, that's all you can do...that's all we can do!

 

[dmteaseme]

I believe the way to a happier and healthier existence for oneself, mother nature and the entire planet as a whole, is through veganism. I know it's a hot topic as most people, especially in the first world are die hard meat lovers, and with mass media and advertising constantly projecting eating meat as the norm, it's hard to fight that mentally...but for many awakened souls that have found the truth, the road begins and ends with veganism. Is it any wonder that the most sacred curanderos practice vegetalismo and dieta, or what many of us consider most sacred, are plants. It's fact, that the meat people are eating is not just the flesh of another being, but the pain, suffering, and fear it endured through it's existence in its concentration camp of a life. It's a fact that most diseases(dis-ease) come from eating meat. Cage-free, free-range, grass-fed, humane...these are all nice words for horrible acts against other living beings. Your body truly is a temple, why put dead low vibrational fuel into it, when there is an abundance of high vibrational foods like fruit and vegetables that cleanse the body, open your third eye, and repair and fix what is broken and damaged. Is it bad and unhealthy to eat meat, sure, but it doesn't make you a bad person. People, especially me, are making mistakes at every turn. It's recognizing our mistakes and changing how we act and think that is how the soul ascends through the levels of consciousness. Please take the time to do your own research and be educated on this topic, for your sake and the planet's. I can offer one name that helped me see the light, Gary Yourofsky. I leave the exploration up to you!

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." - Ghandi

 

[universecannon]

DMTeaseme, As someone who eats almost exclusively raw plants and fruits, I wouldn't suggest that any diet (or dietary category as broad as "veganism" ) is the one single solution to our individual and social problems. Diet is a big piece of the puzzle, and I think has a massively underrated influence (including on how it can effect ones psychedelic experiences, brain development, etc.) but it's not the only piece of the puzzle, and what works for one may not work as well for others. When it comes to veganism...that is a massive umbrella term that is used to encompass a wide range of ways people eat, some of which still aren't healthy at all or good for the environment.

But that's really all I wanted to say about that. I don't think we should derail this thread anymore since this sort of thing has already been discussed on this forum at length.

 

[universecannon]

332211,

I'm glad you came to us for support since many of us here have had experiences that resonate with each others in one way or another, including experiences of "negative entities" or perceptions of the less desirable aspects of ourselves and the world. Or, on the flip side, experiences of bodhisattvic style oneness and cosmic reassurance that everything is unfolding as it should. In either case, dealing with this in today's world without many around you to relate with can be difficult.

Entertaining a plethora of new possibilities is basically inevitable when exploring DMT and it's implications, as you obviously know. But just remember that they are possibilities (plural), and it helps to keep a healthy distance from clinging to any one interpretation your mind creates too rigidly so much so that it becomes detrimental or starts to make one too paranoid (not saying you are). I realize that with a greater awareness of oneself and the world can come a new level of awareness of the pain, insanity, and destruction, since right now these are a part of our reality and at this point in time our civilization is in a worrisome state. But there is good things being done as well, and wallowing in the bad too much can really drag your efforts and spirits down at times.

What you are doing NOW matters. Maybe it showed you the negativity so you could learn how to avoid it? Avoiding negative behaviors, thinking etc. is just as important as instilling new positive and loving behavior and thinking.

Very pertinent

 

[dmteaseme]

universecannon, note taken, and upon reflection I didn't really incorporate what my message was about with the whole veganism sermon(sorry for the sermon..haha), but what I wanted to pass on to 332211 was that, in my own experience, I found that changing my lifestyle(diet) to higher vibrational foods, I also changed many of the themes in my aya journeys...I went from having more spiraling through darkness to more flowing towards light experiences. Looking back the biggest change at the time WAS my diet, as setting, time, dosage, ingredients were almost consistently the same. Wasn't trying to derail the thread but giving a long winded and poorly directed opinion as to who 332211 could make changes to better and possibly help illuminate his/her journey. I too follow a 90% raw diet and I think that it has its benefits for higher vibrational energy and has bettered my journeys.

332211, i hope any of this exchange helps...safe journeys and don't give up. The difficult things in our lives are what really make us who we are, not the easy things.

 

[entheogenstudy]

332211: you sent me a private message, but as a new member on this forum it appears I lack the privilege to respond to your message.

What I have to say is mostly straightforward, but if you are truly interested in my opinion you can write me an email at petter@entheogenstudy.org, and I will reply with what I have to say.

Best wishes to you, and please take a long break from drugs of every kind.