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Frequency of use of DMT

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It's worth pointing out the pleasant effects of frequent low dose smoking (just at or under threshold, far below breakthrough).

This is not at all about getting f*cked up or anything. More of a meditation aid, or psychological/physiological reset/re-connect with the multiverse. Very pleasant and, with the right intention, there is much to be learned. This is extremely effective with changa as you can more easily attain/maintain a sub threshold state.
 
I can understand the counterproductive part but could you please elaborate a bit more on the dangerous part?
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Too much of anything is bad.

If you smoked DMT every hour on the hour... you'd probably go nuts.

Somebody try it and let me know if y'all don't believe me.
 
Maybe mescaline has potential to turn you nuts in some ways because it just last soooo long and ilpt can imagine if he would dose it every day he will loose track of reality.:roll:

ILPT doesn`t think DMT is dangerous in any way only smoking it could be harmfull for airways (as smoking of anything) IT`s just so quick and powerfull . If somebody smoking it hour to hour evry day he must be already NUTS as this is trully dishonest abusing of spiritual molecule


ILPT is off weed for good two weeks(thanx God for that as he was 11 years addicted to that shit) and recently experimenting with psychedelic a lot namely mescaline, harmalas shrooms and dmt and have to say these DMT is far superior to anything else. Like he dosed some shrooms on the top of cacti extract and have some harmalas sublingually and it all was rubbish until he hit the bulb vapouriser with dmt. These made him trully satisfied just like BANG 5 minutes of strong visuals whether eyes open or close and that was it !

The effect of DMT are so powerfull that one can think it could harm but it ain`t. Mescaline lingering so long in body and act very sneakily sometimes so ILPT has to be carefuyll with it but no DMT
DMT is great the king
Use it as much as you can but do listen your body.
After good breaktrough ILPT doesn`t need to touch it again. Is just curiosity what bringing him back to dmt

Mescaline is more like making him hungry for more and more which is no good

LOL ILPT a bit tripping now hope you will get his poin lmao
 
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I can understand the counterproductive part but could you please elaborate a bit more on the dangerous part?
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Too much of anything is bad.

If you smoked DMT every hour on the hour... you'd probably go nuts.

Somebody try it and let me know if y'all don't believe me.
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Obviously its not something I do often, but when I made my first changa I kept myself hyperspaced for a good few hours and had no bad side effects. Not even a headache.

The only thing I don't like about vapourised DMT is the crazy shakes I get when coming out of a high dose.
 
^^^^^I feel you on that.

My personal habit of use typically includes my fiance.
I never feel right traveling without her. I feel like I am leaving her out.
Since she only goes when she feels the pull, I let that be the temperance and I usually only go with her. So it is not as often as I would like. If left to my own devices I would perhaps go twice a week.
When first starting out, the novelty compelled almost daily usage but leveled off quickly.

I do take sublingual doses before bed once in a while. They only give mild effects but I wake up the next morning feeling great.

I believe this is due to an excess of seratonin after usage. The enzyme level is expecting to handle x amount of seratonin but ends of with y amount of an extra tryptamine to handle as well. Regular use I believe would perhaps even this out but infrequent dosing seems to leave me feeling the way I feel after taking tryptophan or 5-HTP, which is peaceful and happy. The way the afterglow feels.



This is how I feel about it. I don't always have to use spice, but I don't like not having it at my disposal. I go months at a time without using, but I always want the option.


If you are seeking peer approval, simply know that only you can decide how much is too much. Just keep one foot in this reality in case we need ya!



Namaste,

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i know dmt is way stronger on your mind then L for the guy that said you spend less time tripping dmt then L or shrooms.
do what you want but i have experienced visions days after heavy deamster use, as have friends.
and the whole naptha thing just screams bad idea.
and the fact none of you are actually chemist and can tell me exactly what is in the final product...
its all speculation so i dont even wanna hear it.
all i can say is that if you don't give a shit about brain tumors and cancer... go ahead burn the shit down to the ground.
 
I don't think I've ever had that kind of headache reaction from pure DMT. To my mind, the only time I've ever had a spice-related headache was after a large oral dose with a large oral dose of Harmine...I'm pretty sure my all-day headache the next day was Harmine related as I've noticed similar, albeit much less severe throbbings when I sprinkle too much in a cannabis joint.
 
Hey Dmt Nexus,

Now i know this is a very big forum and probably has been going for a long time! I did try looking for a post similar to this subject but had no success :?:

So i wanted to know say out of a month how many times do you smoke dmt or take ayahuasca ??? (just out of curosity)

Swim usually smokes a pipe or 2 every weekend but has not trekked into the realm of ayahuasca yet, but hope to 1 day :d

(Ohh and i apologize if there is a main topic on this, if there is i will quickly delete this topic)
 
Read the rest of this thread for some points of view. I'm gonna throw in my 2c.

I don't anymore. Stopped completely by the recommendation of the molecule. I was told to take a long time off to sort a few things out. Considering the source it's a message I thoroughly appreciate receiving. I still pop in to the Nexus to help with harm reduction and to offer advice as someone who's been there.

Basically frequency is something that's different for every individual and they usually have to figure it out for themselves. Generally once you discover dmt there's a 'honeymoon phase' where you smoke often for a few months up to a year. Then things change, or keep changing I should say.

Make sure you are keeping your priorities straight (family, work/school, relationships, etc).

A good rule of thumb is: don't let your real life become "the time between trips".
(using the colloquial definition of real life = 'irl' / day to day / offline / consensus reality)


You might consider checking out this from the Health & Safety section. It is a page or two of reading, but definitely worth running past your eyes and through your brain.
 
In the case of dealing with depression/reducing anxiety (that used to be otherwise crippling), I began working with Ayahuasca twice a month, and then steadily increased to once a week. I feel like I would be at my best if I drank twice a week--interested very much in the positive brain chemistry that lingers after a journey--but life makes that difficult.

I was also smoking changa once a week, but after stumbling upon some very deep repressed pain from my earliest moments of life, I cannot proceed without a sitter. I would smoke more, but what I need to enter into dialogue with the molecule safely and to manage my real life just isn't present--so--I must wait. Until I have the support I need to get through it, regular trips are postponed, but in no way canceled indefinitely. Smoking changa also has an AMAZING positive impact on brain chemistry for me, as well.

Straight Caapi microdoses during the week, between journeys, also works wonders for mood elevation (but exercise scrutiny in combining drugs when doing this).

I love the medicine, and I depend on its grace; however, the medicine will shred me from the inside if I neglect any priority in my real life. Therefore, my need to return has spurred a constant improvement in myself. I can't neglect my real life, because it is a gift, as I was initially shown; and, never wanting to lose the grace of being able to appreciate my life this way (as a previous lifetime of depression made quite impossible), I have to do whatever it takes to return to the medicine. So, out of my love for this grace, an amazing upward spiral has been born.

Caapi without DMT is also MUCH, MUCH gentler... I always, always drink Caapi, but there are weeks when I skip the DMT. Even if I drink so much vine I just fall asleep, positive things are still happening in my body.

I don't want to just journey, I want to elevate my life to a more ecstatic baseline. I want to know what is possible. How IN BEING can I possibly be? Life *IS* the journey, and I spent 90% of mine missing that fact. Now, I feel like I'm making up for lost time. I want to be healthy, happy, lucid, aware, in touch with all levels of my being (body/mind/spirit), I want to sincerely connect with others and help them as much as I can, I want to make the world a better place... The medicine is great for inspiration. I want to share the inspiration. It is also an endless source of inspiration, and I want to know just how inspired I can become. :)
 
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In the case of dealing with depression/reducing anxiety (that used to be otherwise crippling), I began working with Ayahuasca twice a month, and then steadily increased to once a week. I feel like I would be at my best if I drank twice a week--interested very much in the positive brain chemistry that lingers after a journey--but life makes that difficult.

I was also smoking changa once a week, but after stumbling upon some very deep repressed pain from my earliest moments of life, I cannot proceed without a sitter. I would smoke more, but what I need to enter into dialogue with the molecule safely and to manage my real life just isn't present--so--I must wait. Until I have the support I need to get through it, regular trips are postponed, but in no way canceled indefinitely. Smoking changa also has an AMAZING positive impact on brain chemistry for me, as well.

Straight Caapi microdoses during the week, between journeys, also works wonders for mood elevation (but exercise scrutiny in combining drugs when doing this).

I love the medicine, and I depend on its grace; however, the medicine will shred me from the inside if I neglect any priority in my real life. Therefore, my need to return has spurred a constant improvement in myself. I can't neglect my real life, because it is a gift, as I was initially shown; and, never wanting to lose the grace of being able to appreciate my life this way (as a previous lifetime of depression made quite impossible), I have to do whatever it takes to return to the medicine. So, out of my love for this grace, an amazing upward spiral has been born.

Caapi without DMT is also MUCH, MUCH gentler... I always, always drink Caapi, but there are weeks when I skip the DMT. Even if I drink so much vine I just fall asleep, positive things are still happening in my body.

I don't want to just journey, I want to elevate my life to a more ecstatic baseline. I want to know what is possible. How IN BEING can I possibly be? Life *IS* the journey, and I spent 90% of mine missing that fact. Now, I feel like I'm making up for lost time. I want to be healthy, happy, lucid, aware, in touch with all levels of my being (body/mind/spirit), I want to sincerely connect with others and help them as much as I can, I want to make the world a better place... The medicine is great for inspiration. I want to share the inspiration. It is also an endless source of inspiration, and I want to know just how inspired I can become. :)
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Some people are probly just born to do this. Your one of a kind for sure minxx..always be you.
 
I would like to think that, somewhere, deep inside, we all are!! You know... just fall in love with life and stay that way.

We are like that when we are kids... But then what happens? :(
 
people kill the myths that the world of children incarnate through..they stop living in storytime and they fall down into the dead world..thats what happens. I know I sure as hell would loose it completely from my job if I didnt come home every weekend and drink ayahuasca. There is no integration..there are parts of society tat are ugly as hell and I have no intention of accepting it..I just do it to get by for now..but really I want out..so I try to spend as much time as I can drinking ayahuasca becasue reall thats where I want to be.
 
I know what you mean Fractal. Nothing better than a bunch of people frolicking through grassy fields loving life and each others, To me that's the feeling of hyperspace.
 
ms_manic_minxx said:
I don't want to just journey, I want to elevate my life to a more ecstatic baseline. I want to know what is possible. How IN BEING can I possibly be? Life *IS* the journey, and I spent 90% of mine missing that fact. Now, I feel like I'm making up for lost time. I want to be healthy, happy, lucid, aware, in touch with all levels of my being (body/mind/spirit), I want to sincerely connect with others and help them as much as I can, I want to make the world a better place... The medicine is great for inspiration. I want to share the inspiration. It is also an endless source of inspiration, and I want to know just how inspired I can become. :)
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You are something special for sure.
 
Hey fractal i feel ya on wanting to escape, i've been looking at land overseas in central america specifically, if you're interested pm me and i'll explain my plan to live free. Anyways my take on DMT is that it shows you not what you WANT to see, but what you NEED to see, and if you need to see something daily then by golly see it every day! I feel that there is always something to learn, every single day, and if you use dmt to learn daily then it will teach you something, every. single. time.
 
ms_manic_minxx said:
I would like to think that, somewhere, deep inside, we all are!! You know... just fall in love with life and stay that way.

We are like that when we are kids... But then what happens? :(
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Unfortunately...I think its life....that happens 😉


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