Getting "Jungle" to powderize

[Gir]

Ive been reading quite a bit up on mysterious jungle, and keep coming back to this:

"So I'm wondering... The old-school heads at the festivals keep talking about red or orange DMT from back in the day, and how strong it was. I'm wondering if that old-school spice was actually just a mixture of the 2 alkaloids in one product... because as far as I can tell, pure DMT is white or clear crystals."

This red spice, sounds quite like mixed in jungle.. however, it appears that jungle is too aqueous to be turned into a fluffy solid. I havent yet extracted some to try to get to this stage, but i have been reading reports.

Is there a way to dry this stuff, without destroying the *Most Likely* fragile alks inside? both SWIM and I are extremely interested in this stuff. As well as what can be pulled from it..:

"[E]nded up with tan waxy non oily stuff that is stronger than hell (10-20 mg) and terrifying. It's not just residual DMT, its too strong for that."
Noman"

16:13:02 ‹Snozz› and i mean, my jungle that i have left is crystally on the outside
19/04/2010 16:13:17 ‹Snozz› but its like a ball of wax with crystals protruding/glimmering
19/04/2010 16:13:20 ‹Snozz› like glitter

He says that its still goo, even though hes left it to sit, and let it get some crystals. This leads me to believe that it is POSSIBLE to get this to a crystal state, possibly to a fluff.

Now im not talking about full-range spice, im talking about turning goo-jungle into powder jungle.

 

[Entropymancer]

17:00:02 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› gir, about that post: you've got to remember that jungle appears to contain very substantial amounts of DMT... even if you exhaust the bark with naphtha before pulling the jungle, and wash the jungle a couple times with naphtha to try to remove residual spice, it still has a lot of DMT
17:00:03 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› along with some beta-carboline compound(s) (according to Benzyme's analysis
17:00:26 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› So whether you can obtain it in crystalline form may depend on there being enough DMT in there
17:00:52 ‹g1risMethyl› This jungle spice. I know it has quite a few different alks in it.
17:01:05 ‹g1risMethyl› the tan waxy stuff, how is it able to solidfy?
17:01:46 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› well, it may or may not be completely possible.... when compoudns are mixed together, they mutually depress one anothers' melting points
17:01:58 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› so it's comcievable that in certain proportions, jungle own't ever be fully solid
17:02:20 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› but what i'd do to try to get it solidified is dissolve in acetone, evap, repeat a few times
17:02:42 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› the acetone should help to pull out any solvent traces
17:02:59 ‹g1risMethyl› hmm, do you think solvent is keeping the "redness" gooey?
17:03:14 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› it could be
17:03:19 ‹g1risMethyl› because the more it evaps, it seems, the less gooey it becomes..
17:03:25 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› whatever the goo is, apparently it likes to hold onto solvent
17:03:34 ‹g1risMethyl› but it looks like whatever is keeping it goo, is trapped hardcore init.
17:03:42 ‹Ƹזאᵲɵ› to get the acetone to evap, you'll probably have to scrape the stuff around periodically

 

[SnozzleBerry]

16:13:02 ‹Snozz› and i mean, my jungle that i have left is crystally on the outside
19/04/2010 16:13:17 ‹Snozz› but its like a ball of wax with crystals protruding/glimmering
19/04/2010 16:13:20 ‹Snozz› like glitter

He says that its still goo, even though hes left it to sit, and let it get some crystals. This leads me to believe that it is POSSIBLE to get this to a crystal state, possibly to a fluff.

Well, goo is a strong word. It's definitely not liquid at all. I'd call mescaline acetate a goo. This is a malleable solid. Granted you couldn't powder it, but yea, just trying to make sure everything is clear as possible

 

[OpeningPandorasBox]

Swim has had success by simply scraping the material around on a glass plate or dish for a long period. It eventually starts to lighten in color and then become more of a fine dried wax powder. Its much more manageable in this form. However with all of the variance found in jungle spice its hard to say this technique will work for everyone.

 

[Gir]

SWIM is going to pick up xylene and acetone tonight.

Any suggestions apart from manual re-x that I should keep in mah head? I get lots of sunshine around my house, would anything be destroyed if I left it to bake for a bit in the sun, I know that UV is dangerous so.. maybe not.

 

[gammagore]

I evaped mine in a room, with a fan assisting things. It was mid winter so I had no chance of doing it outside. I tell you now, that is smelly stuff Not sure about the sun "baking" it, somone is bound to chime in.

Leave it to dry for a few days, then scrape it up, add some acetone, evap and sit for a day, scrape it around every now and then, do as many acetone washes till no xylene is smelled, 2-3 should do it, then let dry and enjoy.