Girlfriend tried DMT for the first time last night...

[Global_Roaming]

... while on her period. After watching the Drugs Inc. documentary on hallucinogens (particularly the part on ayahuasca) she finally decided to give it a go. Prior to this her only experience with hallucinogens was a very mild shroom trip about 10 years ago.

I wasn't certain this was a good idea, but loaded up a very small amount of changa and talked her through how to relax, what to expect etc. I queued up some relaxing music and let her settle for a while before she took a little hit and lay down. She coughed up the smoke almost immediately but I knew there'd be some effect. After about 1 minute she started giggling, then asked for some tissues and had a little cry. For the next 2 minutes she alternated between laughing and crying, all while laying back with her eyes closed, but squirming a little and turning over from time to time.

Afterward she described some very mild body buzz, but no visuals. Interesting she said it touched her very deeply on an emotional level, hence the giggles and tears. Understandably she had trouble letting go, and everytime she felt herself drifting deeper she'd turn over or squirm to retain her familiar sense of reality. Afterward she wanted another go, and hit the same herb again but with no effect. This morning she felt really positive about the experience and wants to try it again, but admits that she needs to learn how to submit to the experience.

For me this was an awesome outcome, as she's always trivialised by inner journey experimentations, but now she finally gets it. Anyway, thought I'd just share this. Happy travels everyone.


[sorry for not posting this in the experience report section, but I can't post there yet]

 

[magic9]

im curious as to why it was mentioned that she was on her period... lol

 

[Metanoia]

Perhaps to explain some of the emotional aspect?

Cool that she is interested and wants to experience it. I wish I had a partner like that

 

[Botanical Bliss]

My girlfriend reacted well when I first gave her DMT... small doses is all she's had so far. She only has a couple of those experiences under her belt so far. We did LSD together a couple months ago.... and she was on her period. A lot of native cultures believe that when a women is on her "moon" that she is already in touch with the spiritual side of her. I honestly think her being on her period had a big impact on her experience.

She's had a sexually abusive past as a young girl and before we took the acid I informed her that her past may come up but just to be strong because we aren't doing this for pure fun... it's about healing and growing. There were times in the trip where she was sooo happy, like a child. She was pure, laughing, etc.

Then during the peak her past came up and she was crying and yelling for me to make the images stop. I calmed her down by sitting in front of her, looking in each others eyes, and having deep breaths, meditating. Then we had very special moments together and I just started balling like a baby because she's so beautiful and her past has effected her so much. I could feel her pain. I love her so much.

Overall it turned out to be a good experience for her/us. And although her case is unique in that she's had a troubling past, her period definitely had an impact on the trip for her, emotionally-wise. And sorry for not sparing the details, but it kind of effected me too. Let's just say my senses were very heightened and I could um, smell that she was on her moon which caused me some nausea yeah...

I think next time we have a trip planned.... I'll make sure she isn't on her period because she is already a very emotional girl to begin with and that sure didn't help, since these are such emotional states of mind to begin with.

 

[Infundibulum]

im curious as to why it was mentioned that she was on her period... lol

The vastly varying monthly hormonal cycle of women can greatly influence the effects of drugs. That is why men are preferred for drug trials and studies; because in men hormonal levels are more stable and you do not get variation in drug responses that may, for the individual, be attributed to a specific hormonal signature.

Especially for women, sharing their cycle stage along with the experience can lead some very important information. We know for instance that progesterone can antagonise the action of dmt at the sigma-1 receptor, so women in their luteal phase (=very high progesterone levels) may perceive the dmt trip differently than those in their follicular phase (basal progesterone levels).

 

[Jees]

So looking at these charts, to avoid the progesterone high levels and emotional vulnerable period (slightly before and during menses), best is a 10 to max 15 days interval after the menses stopped. The proliferation phase. Can women confirm this?

 

[magic9]

wow awesome to know!