Go Solo!?!

[Jumpy]

Hi All! I'm a noob to this site, DMT and haven't experienced hallucinations for maybe 30 years. I am very intrigued by what I have so far learned of DMT! I have about 10 - 12 hours of study on the subject and am learning... I'm uncertain about my motivation to try DMT. I'm not interested in getting high but am quite interested in where I may be taken; what is in there for me! I know no-one who does DMT and am considering going it alone which is fairly typical of how I've experienced my life. Is this a bad idea or just not recommended. I think I am emotionally stable though I do drink every evening. Not to stupidity but there is escapism there! I bought 50 grams of MHRB and am preparing to extract the DMT but I'll study the teks further. Cheers!

 

[quantumbrujo]

I think going solo is the way to go.that's the way I always go about it most of the time.I find having a sitter present fucks up my trip cause I know I'm being watched.the time I don't go solo the person with me is also doing it at the same time so it's not the same as having someone sober watching you.

 

[sillysyban]

Hey mate, I have only done DMT once now but that was solo. For the first minute or so I was a little scared as I wasnt used to being blasted into oblivion so quickly but I soon settled down and had an awesome trip. I would do it solo again for sure as quantumbrujo said above I think if someone was watching me part of my mind would be on them not my trip. Have fun and good luck.

 

[blacksheep]

Going solo is fine, the trip is different when others are involved, but as a tool for the soul, I think its most effective going solo.

 

[Jumpy]

Thanks Ya'll! So, just to reiterate, I've never done DMT AND I've never extracted it. In this case I'm doing both without any support or supervision other than rather intensive internet study... Still agree?? I thought you would!

 

[quantumbrujo]

Thay's what I did [img:9350219491]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/quantumbrujo/JustDoIt.jpg[/img:9350219491]

 

[sillysyban]

Me too. Only way to go.

 

[The Traveler]

Same for me. Just dü it...

 

[DMTripper]

[quote:5cd8af6b22="Jumpy"] In this case I'm doing both without any support or supervision other than rather intensive internet study... [/quote:5cd8af6b22] I'm on the same boat Been reading alot and just taking my time. But it's weird how my interest incresed suddenly like 2 months ago. I've been reading about DMT for some years and there's a long time since I knew I would try it some day. But I didn't do anything about it. But just recently I just got this extreamly strong feeling that it was time. Like I've already been through something that I needed to go through before I did DMT for the first time and now I was ready. I was working on my first extraction last night and I already have some cristals in the freezer But I don't know when I'll have the opportunity to finish up and smoke. Well I'm not in a rush, it will happen when it happens

 

[Jumpy]

[quote:b5d0523ad9]Like I've already been through something that I needed to go through before I did DMT for the first time and now I was ready. [/quote:b5d0523ad9] Me too though I knew nothing of DMT until about 4 weeks ago. I researched and studied wondering who I would share my discovery with. I think most people would associate hallucinogenics with doing drugs like meth or crack or whatever. Who could I tell? Then I remembered a herb buddy who, like me, kind of faded into the more dangerous legal chemical, alcohol. But when I called and told him of this "discovery" is said that he had recently read an article of another natural substance and how it had the potential of influencing a persons spirituality simply by enabling the person to look objectively into another reality. Did I accurately describe a potential experience? So, I'm going it alone. Today I will work on the extraction. I'm uncertain of the tek to use at this point. I have the MHRB ground and in the freezer. I'll post my results here! DMT Tripper, want to make this post a forum for both our experiences?? Cheers!

 

[DMTripper]

Sure I hope to be able to try it out soon. I will post here after I do.

 

[quantumbrujo]

[quote:fce6cc21c9="DMTripper"][quote:fce6cc21c9="Jumpy"] In this case I'm doing both without any support or supervision other than rather intensive internet study... [/quote:fce6cc21c9] I'm on the same boat Been reading alot and just taking my time. But it's weird how my interest incresed suddenly like 2 months ago. I've been reading about DMT for some years and there's a long time since I knew I would try it some day. But I didn't do anything about it. But just recently I just got this extreamly strong feeling that it was time. Like I've already been through something that I needed to go through before I did DMT for the first time and now I was ready. I was working on my first extraction last night and I already have some cristals in the freezer But I don't know when I'll have the opportunity to finish up and smoke. Well I'm not in a rush, it will happen when it happens [/quote:fce6cc21c9] Hey I read read and read about DMT for over 15 years before actually extracting it and smoking it.

 

[Jumpy]

Just kind of journaling here... Today I had the opportunity to begin the extraction process. I work from home and have serious doubts that my wife would understand what I am doing so I'll keep it quiet for now. Since she worked today and tomorrow I hope to extract some spice. The plan is to do an extraction, see if the results are as published and if I see what I expect, I'll get set and setting together, setup a voice recorder, write a "This was not a suicide" note and blast off (hopefully to return)! Today I ground 50 grams of Mimosa Hostilias, added 600ml hot PH3 water into a crockpot and stirred and cooked 45 minutes. Strained off and took the remains to 400ml PH4 hot water for another 45 minutes in the crockpot. Strained and took the remains to 300ml PH5 hot water for 45 minutes in the crockpot. The strained liquids are sitting in a fridge in my basement... Tomorrow I'll baseify and probably freeze precipitate over tomorrow night. Please feel free to comment on the technique (or lack thereof)! More tomorrow!

 

[DMTripper]

It's kinda funny to see you in the same process. But I'm a day ahead and already explained things to my wife that has never even smoked pot! But where did you find that tek you're using? It's quite different from what I've been reading about. I extracted from 100mg. MHRB last night and when i separated the naptha from the base solution I was so sure I totally failed. I just felt like something wasn't right. For example when the naptha separated frome the base there was absolutely no emulsion and It didn't take so much time. Even if I shook the mix quite alot.But after checking the freezer today I saw that it wasn't a total faliure. I didn't get much but it seems quite pure. Very white. My biggest problem was probably the separation. I was going to use a 60ml syringe to suck the naptha from the jar but it failed totally so I had to find another way that took some time and experiments. I'm defenetely getting a separatory funnel for my next extraction.

 

[Jumpy]

This technique is a combination of several that I've found. Here is one Tek to where I am today... 1. Premix in an empty 1-Gallon plastic jug: 1-Pint White Vinegar &amp; 3-1/2 Quarts Water. 2. Put the ground up Mimosa in a 3-Liter crockpot, then fill it with the water-vinegar solution. 3. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour 50% of the liquid into a 1-gallon wide-mouthed glass or stainless container. 4. Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off 25% of the liquid into the same container again. 5. Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off the final 25% of the liquid into the same container again. 6. After the last extraction press out the fiber to squeeze the last bit of liquid from it and discard. 7. Save the three combined extractions in the 1-gallon container. Allow the vegetable particles in the extraction in the 1-gallon container to settle to the bottom overnight. Then pour off the liquid into an empty 1-Gallon GLASS wine jug, being careful not to pour off any of the vegetable sludge at the bottom. 8. Discard the sludge and keep the contents of the wine jug. [b:c53be868fa]Here is another similar to where I am today...[/b:c53be868fa] OK here's how swim does it inabout 7 hours.we will be doing a 375 gram MHRB extraction here.(which should yield between 3 or 4 grams of spice. 1. Chop up the rootbark using a paper guillotine to save time- about 15 minutes 2. Pulverize it with a blender bit by bit - about15-20 minutes depending on your blender. 3. While youre doing this you are preheating your crockpot with 2 and a half litres of water 4. Add vinegar and stir and check PH with digital PH meter it should go as far down as about 3.if it is higher add some more vinegar,stir it up real good and re-check PH. 5. When your PH is around 3 add the rootbark powder and stir the shit out of it. 6. Let it simmer for three hours stirring the shit out of it often. 7. When two and a half hours have passed stop stirring to let the guck settle to the bottom. with the chopping and grinding and simmering we are now at 3 and a half hours. 8. Pour the liquid through a cheese cloth into a wide mouthed stainless steel or glass(punch bowl will work) type of container. 9. Close up the cloth over the plant matter and sqweeze the shit out of it to get all the juice out.It's very hot so wear dishwashing gloves.whet you feel it too hot even with gloves pass your hands with gloves under running cold water and repeat the sqweezing till it's almost a dry pulp.this takes about 5 minutes.you now have a bowl full of a purplish reddish liquid that looks like cheap red wine. And yet a third... http://www.geocities.com/aerondir5meo/guide_2.pdf Sorry Trip for the data overload... The three <teks> essentially said the same thing so I followed them. I had to intially guess at the PH on the first extraction (hmm, 5% white vinegar plus equal volume water equals 2.5% acid solution). I later found an aquarium PH test kit and verified. I don't know if this will work. You got crystals yes????? Speak up support team! Are we off (free) base!

 

[quantumbrujo]

I suggest you guys to do the lazyman's tek.you don't acidify at all.Just basify powdered rootbark,let soak for about an hour while stirring vigorously,add naptha (no filtering needed as all the sludge will remain on the bottom and won't be in the naptha layer) siphon off naptha layer after seperation and stick it in the freezer.You can have smokeable DMT in two hours.It's tried tested and true.amazing yields as well as long as you use good premium pink/purple inner rootbark.I got 1% yield a few weeks ago.4grams of spice from 400 grams of rootbark.

 

[Jumpy]

Thanks Q but we're this far into the extraction... I'm looking right now to order more jurema! Does it look like my process will fail?

 

[sillysyban]

SWIM used 3 parts water and 1 part vinegar but apparently for MHRB you can skip the acid stage all together. See the quick tek. Now that you have done it carry on. With a PH that low you may have to do some cleaning up of your DMT by doing a defat and or recrystalizing it. Apparently a low PH pulls unwanted crap out of the material as well. SWIM got green goo which he then had to add warm naptha and stirred. The goo didnt dissolve but the dmt in it did and when poured off and covered and put in freezer got crystals. Just read the help thread in extractions and you should find everything you need. Someone who knows more may wish to correct me but that is what worked for me. Good luck.

 

[quantumbrujo]

[quote:926cc3636f="Jumpy"]Thanks Q but we're this far into the extraction... I'm looking right now to order more jurema! Does it look like my process will fail?[/quote:926cc3636f] I realize that,I meant in future extractions. your process shouldn't fail,just make sure you basify to 13.5 PH.anything lower and you'll have an emulsion that won't want to clear.also place in hot water bath to clear the emulsion faster.with the PH at 13.5 and in my crockpot at around 70 degrees C emulsions clear in less than 10 minutes.also to get the naptha to pull as much spice as possible heat it almost till it boils.I actually heat it till it starts bubbling.Remember DMT is soluble in HOT naptha and not very soluble in COLD naptha.That's the beauty of it to freeze precipitate.If you have too much naptha some might not precipitate and stay in solution.before putting it in the freezer evap some of the naptha at room temperature till it starts getting cloudy and then put it in the freezer(with tightly closed lid) you will see a snow storm inside your jar.set your freezer to the coldest setting around -20C. good luck and please post your results.

 

[Jumpy]

How do you get naptha to boil?? Isn't its BP over the BP of water?