"god head" / god moment

[Eliyahu]

we all come from the same star stuff, so only the master intelligence has the copyright.

^this is an instant classic....

 

[litrium]

Olio your signature reads:

Location: Xibalba

Interesting choice place to choose as your humble abode hmm?. . .

Xibalba translates as "place of fear". This is the Mayan underworld, populated by spirits of the dead or a race of humanoid beings who worship death. According to the Maya mythological narrative, the Popol Vuh, this place is ruled by twelve Lords whose domains are all forms of mortal suffering, including disease, pain, starvation, fear, loss, and last but not least, death itself.

The entrance to Xibalba is through a watery cave. Traditionally this is believed to be somewhere near either Cobán in Guatemala or one of the many cave systems in Belize. The native Quiché people saw this doorway as the dark spot in the Milky Way.

The Mayan Underworld is a huge, complex city made up of houses in which people are tested, homes of the Lords, lavish gardens and even a ballcourt. It is a maze of challenges and tricks. On the road to Xibalba, there are rivers of scorpions, blood and pus to navigate and then a crossroads that offers bewildering choices. If these obstacles are successfully met, the Lords amuse themselves by humiliating and torturing the travelers before they pass along to further terrors and tests in at least six different "houses", each one designed either to kill or induce great suffering. It is not known if anyone actually passes all the tests or if all who enter Xibalba are doomed to wander forever in the underworld.

The Popol Vuh tells that the death-gods of Xibalba was once worshipped by humans. Human sacrifices appeased them. Generations later, these Lords are tricked into accepting fake sacrifices by a pair of Maya Hero Twins. After that, the offerings gradually diminish completely. This legend of the fall of Xibalba is likely to be a story made up by the Quicheans to demonize the earlier Mayan beliefs and discourage the practice of human sacrifice while allowing the legend of Xibalba to continue.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Of course I admit I cannot know whats real until I die, which I'm in no hurry to find out. I will say this experience seemed to be the most real. In my heart I believe it was absolute. Real or not, it changed me. And it is a change for the better. I used to only do closed eyes. This and the few before were open eyed. The urge to do it again has vanished for now. Which is perfect since I'm all out for now.

 

[brokin]

we all come from the same star stuff, so only the master intelligence has the copyright.

^this is an instant classic....

This deserves to be in some Hall of Fame ^_^


How can you know that you'll know everything when you die?

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

we all come from the same star stuff, so only the master intelligence has the copyright.

^this is an instant classic....

This deserves to be in some Hall of Fame ^_^


How can you know that you'll know everything when you die?

I don't but I'm confident.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

No need to changes sided. The experience you just had has convinced you of it's validity, but that does not in any shape form or fashion change the fact that it did indeed occur in your mind.

It's seems the more profound realization would not simple be the realization that there is a single God above all others, but to recognize that the dwelling place of this God you speak of is indeed with you. "For the kingodm of God is within".

Perhaps you are that which you have witnessed? Not you in the sense of your ego, but you in the sense of your vital essense. In any event I won't pretend to have the answers either. It's utterly profound, whether God turn out to be a separate being that created this all or whether it's all just us. Either way it's just profound man...and DMT/hyperspace is earth shattering the first few times ANYONE reach that place.

Peace.

If god is within, and we all witness these moments, than who's dream is it? It's like a mirror maze. Are we just finding the door? Idk. But I do feel god is always there, we choose what to see. The right to choose. A duality of choices, the see light or the dark light has not touched.

Ignorant or not, I choose to see the magick in life. Science has its place. We no longer fear the gods and sacrifice our virgin daughters for a good crop. But on the other hand, science can suck the life out of life if we have to try and prove everything.

Look at the double slit experiment!

I'm a perfectionist and can be extremely logical. I conquered math and science in school. I can fix nearly anything. I like to work with my hands. But even I know there are things we cannot prove. It can be debated whether you can even be conscious without imagination. That, recalling a memory is using your imagination. In that sense, it could then be postulated that everything is part of a bigger imagination.

Dmt has changed everything I know. (or thought I knew) I thought I was outside the box, and then it kicked me from that box and into a repetitive fractal ethereal impossibility.

I try not to feel like I have to have proof and just enjoy the ride. I know people here can demand proof but its just not gonna happen. Dmt feels more like a memory than something knew. Even the first time it was familiar while alien. The typical "oh yeah, how could I have forgotten this?!"

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Do you still think it's all "imagination, nothing more"?

Absolutely not. I have officially changed my stance. This administration is following the, uh, official God is real ideas. Dmt may be in your head, but the experience is not "in your head"

Nothing wrong with changing the POV but remember that also the POV on god or godhead or whatever you want to call it may change with time.

But isn't everything in our head? Just possibly not always made up by us?

Not referring to your experience, but personally DMT has never shown me any external gods but only the god dwelling within that's simply so alien it seems like a separate entity/being. Just like sometimes I think that entities are completely separate and sometimes I think they're a part of me, my thoughts and points of view change all the time, just saying it's something that DMT can do and it's kind of normal as you have seen with DMT. Simply because it's so difficult to be completely certain about its marvels.

I'm glad for your nice experience and I hope you will keep on receiving more

I hope they continue as well, thank you. Dmt has changed my mind more than women have shoes. That's for sure! XD

 

[Eliyahu]

SoulCrushingBass wrote:

science can suck the life out of life if we have to try and prove everything.

- I believe "suck" is the operative phrase here, as in "science can suck"

He also wrote:

Dmt feels more like a memory than something knew

Couldn't agree more if i had wrote that whole speech for you myself..

Bravo! ENCORE!! ENCORE!!

 

[mew]

i was agnostic until i ate 7 grams dried p cubensis alone in a shower for my first experience.

i know what fearing the lord means... IT SO SO MASSIVE! fear is the only appropriate response to encountering it. not terror but reverence and fear.

needless to say, i firmly assert there is a higher consciousness and that i am apart of it, as are you.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

i was agnostic until i ate 7 grams dried p cubensis alone in a shower for my first experience.

i know what fearing the lord means... IT SO SO MASSIVE! fear is the only appropriate response to encountering it. not terror but reverence and fear.

needless to say, i firmly assert there is a higher consciousness and that i am apart of it, as are you.

Yes.
Not terror but fear. I was shaking in my piss filled boots, but I was not feeling like I was in any danger. There was the awe inspiring presence of power, but it meant no harm.

 

[Eliyahu]

Lots of people believe that controlling your fear 100% is the way to go...

I beg to differ with that viewpoint..

Personally....I live by the words written in the Torah that declares this:

"Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom"

Not trying to get preachy, just expressing my viewpoint.

 

[mew]

it sounds like those who experience it do fear it, but arent terrified.

and yea, my entheogenic learning began there!

 

[Eliyahu]

According to esoteric interpretations of the Hebrew Torah there are two types of this Fear, the fear of the Creator.

One type of fear is the general type of fear that is most commonly experienced; this first type of fear is undesirable to the Creator. This kind of fear is known as "Fear of the Lash" and it is a very base type of fear that is nothing more than fear of punishment for misdeeds, it is associated with guilt, confusion and other undesirable sensations.

The type of Fear that is considered "good fear" from which wisdom is derived is really nothing more than a form of deep reverence or respect. It is the exact type of fear one would feel if one were in the presence of a mighty yet fair King that possessed unlimited power. One might like the powerful King because they believe him to be fair, however that does not mean that one won't be shaking in his boots when he is called personally to stand in the royal court in the Kings full view. For although a King my be fair and just as could be the fact of the matter is he is still a King and will do what he pleases in however way that he sees fit.

This is why it is said that one must take great care to be vigilant of their words and actions whenever standing in the presence of the king. It is said also that ones physical body must be clean ,(hands and feet washed) and ones spirit should be free form any sort of defilement before coming into the kings presence. This kabalistic saying not only comes from the fact that tyrannical kings of the ancient would whimsically put a person to death for merely appearing before there kingly presence with visibly unclean hands. In my mind it's a clear analogy for the spirit world and the most Holy King as I believe it alludes to the importance of physically cleansing yourself before undergoing a mystical endeavor of any type. (e.g, IMO Yeshua washing the feet of the disciples was not just a lesson in humbleness but also a lesson in ritual cleansing.)

 

[mew]

i guess it was lucky i had this experience in the shower desiring to understand what God was

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

i guess it was lucky i had this experience in the shower desiring to understand what God was

Lol, Yup. I tried dmt in the bath. I felt way too vulnerable and didn't enjoy it. I don't mind being spirituality naked, but being this incapacitated while physically naked is not for me! XD

 

[1664]

Awesome thread. It is so good to read of people finding this most beautiful of things. Soulcrushingbass I am so happy for you and really enjoyed rading your posts.

For me, the memory of that feeling, that power, that place, never leaves. No matter how mundane or frustrating my life can feel at times, I always look to there for perspective.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Awesome thread. It is so good to read of people finding this most beautiful of things. Soulcrushingbass I am so happy for you and really enjoyed rading your posts.

For me, the memory of that feeling, that power, that place, never leaves. No matter how mundane or frustrating my life can feel at times, I always look to there for perspective.

Thank you. They say emotions help you remember things. Funny how what's seen is so hard to remember from hyperspace, just the intuitive notions and feelings mostly. I always remember it when I see it again, and the memories last longer everytime I "go to church", and as long as it lasts, it seems to be possible to consciously relive the moment. For almost two days after this experience I could make myself hear hyperspace at will. Hopefully with practice one can learn to get there without the external intake. Call it a muscle memory or training of the brain. Call it a longshot.

Side note, Nice first quote btw.

P.s.s. a quote from Maynard James Keenan..
I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug."

 

[tele]

Thank you. They say emotions help you remember things. Funny how what's seen is so hard to remember from hyperspace, just the intuitive notions and feelings mostly. I always remember it when I see it again, and the memories last longer everytime I "go to church", and as long as it lasts, it seems to be possible to consciously relive the moment. For almost two days after this experience I could make myself hear hyperspace at will. Hopefully with practice one can learn to get there without the external intake. Call it a muscle memory or training of the brain. Call it a longshot.

I have found the more experience I have the more I remember, it's also a good practice to write down as soon as possible what one can remember. Something like keeping a dream diary.

 

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I always find music that invokes certain emotions for me tend to drive the experience in certain directions depending on what typa music or song i'm playing.

It's as if MUSIC->EMOTION->DRIVES THE EXPERIENCE

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I always find music that invokes certain emotions for me tend to drive the experience in certain directions depending on what typa music or song i'm playing.

It's as if MUSIC->EMOTION->DRIVES THE EXPERIENCE

Yessir! It's all about what it means to the individual. There is no one path to follow. That is why I don't advocate science too fully. Science as far as, don't drink drano and think you'll be fine with a sprinkle of faith. Each person has beliefs, and what those mean to them. The further down the rabbit hole I go, the more I find what works for me. I know sphongle sounds great on aya, but I always like Tool. So for me, it works even better with spice.

Even thinking about it now my ears changed frequency. Just certain thoughts cause a ringing in my ears. Since my godhead/god moment, dreams have become psychedelic, I've been able to become a lucid dreamer. When I wake up, I'm still tripping balls. I think there are some divine implications from what's learned from hyperspace and dreams and the combination.

IF, reality is imagined, as some say dreams are, the reality could be one of those dreams where we are not so lucid. Between the two, there could be a possibility of bridging the gap, and making reality lucid.