GOD SAVE US ALL!!

[amazingino]

Regarding the matter of the Jinn (since it came up); I'd like to point out for anyone interested that Islamic mysticism and the Quran are full of tidbits about these beings. Where the subject comes up there is usually quite a bit of detail and I'm somewhat forced to believe that early Islam dealt with matters of the unknown extensively.

Although nowadays only scraps survive of what must have been vast mapping of the other side.

For anyone interested I'd like to direct your attention to "Islamic tileworks" and "Iranian tileworks" @ google.

These psychedelic patterns are abundant all over Mosques everywhere in Iran and to gaze at them while intoxicated is quite a ride. Speaking of which, to stare at the designs of a hand-made persian rug sometimes produces results which I can only describe as "flying carpet." Anyone else back me up on this?


So, what do you think these ancient rugmakers and tileworkers were smoking?

-f

You are right about Islam and Quran but I don't think one need to use psychedelics to "trip", they certainly help but are not mandatory to travel. Attaining those states without help of plants is lot better and stable experience (Sufism).

We already have everything we need to communicate with God in ourselves, plants should only be used to open our eyes and know that "things" exists, then we should seek them without plants. Some people never intoxicate themselves and still can achieve states of consciousness far more "psychedelic" then any plant can ever give you.

Just imagine a plant like a helper, something that helps you walk when your legs are broken. Then imagine walking with your legs fully recovered.

Peace.

 

[fwaggle]

@amazingino: So how do you suppose the Sufis got started on their path? What method do they use to reach God? Where exactly did the patterns from the Mosque tiles and the Persian carpets come from? What is the purpose of these psychedelic patterns? Do these 'visual' patterns, which are also abundant in the New World, in fact have any purpose at all?


-f

P.S. To whom it may concern: Apologies for straying off-topic but it seems that everything in the universe is somehow undeniably interconnected.

 

[godling]

wow... swim has had similar experiences in the past..remember love...love sets you free.........free from fear and control... love shows us how to let go, how to be

swim was afraid to go further too so instead of giving into the fear (remember that fear destroys the mind) swim pressed forward in the realm of psychedelics because of the knowledge and understanding and love and light, etc, received from psychedelics... what helped swim with his integration of frightful trips and working things out within himself... was to actually learn how to be conscious of his own being and to be grounded into god(the source of all life and love) and knowing that these plants grow straight from the earth, so they are here for us.... once swim was calm within himself, he began experimenting with low dose shrooms... like 1g.. and only taking that amount for "x" amount of trips until he was ready to go further... and then upped it to 1.5 or 2g.. and so on... but shrooms can be on the neutral side.. meaning that they can go either way, but you'll soon learn how to transcend that if you work with them... whomever mentioned the mescaline.. that's a wonderful psychedelic.. has very high positive vibrations... swim has partaken cactus during a very stressful moment in his life and the experience was very positive and enlightening.. in fact swim hasnt heard of any bad mesc trips, except maybe if the person took wayyyyyy too much and it was too much for them and they were probably on other things, ,but even then mesc is hard to overdose , meaning that one can dose extremely high on it..

glad you are ok and learning.. sometimes the wake up experience can be wayyy overwhelming but it is life changing, and it changes in a good way... i hope that you press forward and transcend your self and become who you are meant to be

peace and love brovtha