Going into a trip with intention?

[Swarupa]

Have many of you had success with going into a trip with intention?

Nick Sand said it is possible, but i can't help feel that DMT seems to give you the opposite of what you want just to crush your ego

Everytime i've done it i have the intention of going into deep meditation, dissociating from the body into a full experience of the nature of consciousness, yet so far my mind seems to get thrown into the chaos of creation, either physical uncomfortableness feeling like my brain is being turned inside out, or lots of images, movement etc... rather than the blissfull silence of the uncreated source. Its like it gives me the opposite of what i want, just to show me i am not in control of anything.

 

[Steely]

DMT has never given me what I expected, and thus I have come to never expect anything from it. I firmly believe this is best.

It may seem like a sad thing to say, but the less you expect out of these substances, or even people around you, the happier you'll be about everything they do for you.

A clear, calm mind is a fully accepting one.

Try meditating prior to your experiences to clear your mind, because while you are there, anything we are familiar with is cast aside, any prior knowledge is left behind, new found wisdom is collected as we go along, and all sense of time and reality is turned into the simple beauty of being.

To sum it up: Don't expect anything, go in clear headed, and surrender yourself to the experience.

No intentions. No expectations. No resistance. All will turn to love in return for your courage and trust.

EDIT:
Also, do you possibly have any links to your own favorite discussions of this topic by, Nick Sand? I'm sorry to say I haven't heard of him.

 

[antrocles]

DMT has never given me what I expected, and thus I have come to never expect anything from it. I firmly believe this is best.

It may seem like a sad thing to say, but the less you expect out of these substances, or even people around you, the happier you'll be about everything they do for you.

A clear, calm mind is a fully accepting one.

Try meditating prior to your experiences to clear your mind, because while you are there, anything we are familiar with is cast aside, any prior knowledge is left behind, new found wisdom is collected as we go along, and all sense of time and reality is turned into the simple beauty of being.

To sum it up: Don't expect anything, go in clear headed, and surrender yourself to the experience.

No intentions. No expectations. No resistance. All will turn to love in return for your courage and trust.

very well put my brother.

the work with this molecule lies in one's ability to undergo the process of 'un-knowing'. the more you know, the more you need to know, to label, to 'understand', to anchor YOU (your ego) into a deeper illusion of permanence. we gain the most with this work when we go in as empty as we can make ourselves.....then we are capable of being filled with something new, something other.

surrendering to death..as morbid as it sounds...is a type of inclusion of a very old branch of tibetan buddhism called phowa that essentially focuses on how death can approach at any second, without warning. each moment could be your last. to live with this realization is to live with a deep appreciation of the very moment.

and the moment can be anything...

the reality is- with DMT, the more you can let go of familiar scripts and patterns regarding 'what life is', the more you can experience the incredible infiniteness of what can be. period.

now i meditate. i even smoke while in a meditative posture. half-lotus with hands in specific mudras. i sit and surrender. i let go until all that's left is the letting go of letting go. this is when i smoke. without a head full of knowns, nothing can surprise you. nothing can scare you. you are all things and all potentials in a limitless, infinite moment.

expect nothing. ask for nothing. paint the color of your departure with a heartfelt word. i tend to say things like 'home' or 'love' or 'oneness' as i exhale my dose. it does help to create a sense of something harmonious as you depart. but as to asking for specifics...what does our monkey brain really know about what we truly want? you come to this most powerful of medicines and ask for it's guidance and then make suggestions?

...this intelligence that we link-up with, it is either alien and far more evolved , or it is a part of our own highest-self (all are one) that is just as alien. either way, i have never had a true breakthrough that didn't teach me absolutely what i needed right then and there. it's just tough for most of us to let go and allow something to simply teach us with absolutely no preview of what's on the curriculum.

humans like to know what they're going to know...

i look forward to reading more of your posts and watching how your work evolves. be like water...

with love and gratitude!!

 

[Swarupa]

DMT has never given me what I expected, and thus I have come to never expect anything from it. I firmly believe this is best.

It may seem like a sad thing to say, but the less you expect out of these substances, or even people around you, the happier you'll be about everything they do for you.

A clear, calm mind is a fully accepting one.

Try meditating prior to your experiences to clear your mind, because while you are there, anything we are familiar with is cast aside, any prior knowledge is left behind, new found wisdom is collected as we go along, and all sense of time and reality is turned into the simple beauty of being.

To sum it up: Don't expect anything, go in clear headed, and surrender yourself to the experience.

No intentions. No expectations. No resistance. All will turn to love in return for your courage and trust.

EDIT:
Also, do you possibly have any links to your own favorite discussions of this topic by, Nick Sand? I'm sorry to say I haven't heard of him.

I've only read the two docs on this site by Nick Sand, they are really good, 'the sacred world of dmt' & 'a wee bit more on dmt'

Under DMT:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/Files.aspx?Filetype=Books

I always went in with the intention of surrendering, surrendering intention itself aswell, it seems a few of my trips were about showing me a place in me that is not surrendering through fear of losing control.

All in all its very purifying i feel, but in the middle of the experience it can be like 'i am NEVER doing this again' :lol:

 

[shoe]

Have many of you had success with going into a trip with intention?

Nick Sand said it is possible, but i can't help feel that DMT seems to give you the opposite of what you want just to crush your ego

Everytime i've done it i have the intention of going into deep meditation, dissociating from the body into a full experience of the nature of consciousness, yet so far my mind seems to get thrown into the chaos of creation, either physical uncomfortableness feeling like my brain is being turned inside out, or lots of images, movement etc... rather than the blissfull silence of the uncreated source. Its like it gives me the opposite of what i want, just to show me i am not in control of anything.

this is classic fear and doubt. your desire for that kind of experience,
creates the lack of. You could try thanking in advance for it?

DMT can show you incredible things, and absoloutely is the catalyst for personal transformation and transformative experience.
DMT can reconnect you with god. DMT and other tryptamines, are your conduit to divine experience. They're not the only route
to divine experience, as god is in all things, but they're a damn good one.

I guarentee you this: what you bring, you get.

if you're full of fear, you might have a freakout. If you're doing it for a
hit, you might get more of a hit than you wanted and be unprepared.
If you're doing it too often, your experiences will become confused and
meaningless.

Hyperspace is part mirror, part resonant chamber.
Allright, confront him with himself!

Resonate: respect, grattitude, purity of intent, self-control, wisdom,
awareness, unity, focus (with meditation or intention) and above all:
the highest vibration of love.



@antrocles Thankyou for your point of view dear brother,
.... It is hard to fill a cup which is allready full! The function of a vessel resides
in its emptiness... nothing exists outside of our own consiousness, the
act of viewing changes it, your reality is your perception of reality, etc!

The beleifs of the tibetan death bhuddists was very interesting too; basically the
straight bhuddist precept of always being in the current moment:
with the cosmic one being aware, simply noticing, the very very first moment of creation.

 

[ragabr]

SWIM, several times, has asked for specific healing or advice in life and received profound answers directly addressing her concerns. In the beginning, she often asked for guidance in how she could improve her work with hyperspace and in one of those sessions, she was provided a very exact method of communicating her requests. The act of surrender in trust, before taking the spice, plays a key role in this technique.

 

[vovin]

I have done both. Here's the thing for those who think you cannot go in and steer the vision. The reason you cant at least for me was that I assumed I could not. It was only when I realized that I could do so easily that it no longer became a issue. It is like walking or being in public during a break through at one point when I first began experimenting with the spice I thought something like that was just flat out impossible. Now I find it as easy as one would smoke a joint and go out to a club. It's not difficult at all. You must be able to have composure but most of the things you think you cant do on the spice is simply because you 'think' you cant do them.

 

[Dimitrius]

it's just tough for most of us to let go and allow something to simply teach us with absolutely no preview of what's on the curriculum.

Haha, that's what life is like. Only on dmt, it's a lot faster. :shock:

 

[ms_manic_minxx]

I never engage the molecule without intentions. Intentions are like a lifeboat in the seas of chaos. They provide a context to the teaching.

I've never NOT received an answer/teaching from Ayahuasca when I set an intention ("to surrender," "to connect with the web of life," etc.). I may not always expect the response, but there is definitely intelligence at work and there is always a response.