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Great mathematicians and DMT

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people who lock themselves up and deprive themselves from sleep, have a good chance of becoming crazy.
Maybe there IS a connection. There are indeed many great mathematicians who became crazy or who went through a phase of crazyness. I think it's possibly the result of their obsession with their work.
 
benzyme said:
"...the dmt experience is more abstract than the lsd experience.."

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Lol, Dmt is just "Abstract".

Anyways, I was just thinking today about how mathematicians can make equations for anything...

Formula to see if a giraffe can swim>
www.dnaindia.com

Math formula proves giraffes can swim, but not very well

A study found that giraffes could actually swim based on numerous calculations of weight, mass, size, shape, lung capacity, centre of gravity and rotational dynamics.
www.dnaindia.com www.dnaindia.com

Also, they can predict the distance of planets, and they work with time and infinites.
Basically, I'm wondering if you guys think that the entire universe is one big math problem.
If life is the most complex thing in the universe, and we can pick it apart with math.
Then I can reason that the whole universe is just interaction of energy and that can be defined in math equations.

BUT! If 'it' is all definite math then there is no free will. Everything that happens is a tiny gear in the universes clock.
Also though, If everything is chaos/random, then the universe starts to loose it's point. Maybe there isn't a point. Maybe I shouldn't even think about it because I'll never get a satisfactory answer with my limited brain power.

What you guys think?
 
TrustLoveMan said:
benzyme said:
"...the dmt experience is more abstract than the lsd experience.."

qft
Click to expand...

Lol, Dmt is just "Abstract".

Anyways, I was just thinking today about how mathematicians can make equations for anything...

Formula to see if a giraffe can swim>
www.dnaindia.com

Math formula proves giraffes can swim, but not very well

A study found that giraffes could actually swim based on numerous calculations of weight, mass, size, shape, lung capacity, centre of gravity and rotational dynamics.
www.dnaindia.com www.dnaindia.com

Also, they can predict the distance of planets, and they work with time and infinites.
Basically, I'm wondering if you guys think that the entire universe is one big math problem.
If life is the most complex thing in the universe, and we can pick it apart with math.
Then I can reason that the whole universe is just interaction of energy and that can be defined in math equations.

BUT! If 'it' is all definite math then there is no free will. Everything that happens is a tiny gear in the universes clock.
Also though, If everything is chaos/random, then the universe starts to loose it's point. Maybe there isn't a point. Maybe I shouldn't even think about it because I'll never get a satisfactory answer with my limited brain power.

What you guys think?
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No, life nor the universe will never fit in any equation.
equations have a limited scope. Abstract concepts work fine, but real life's too complex.

First of all every description of anything is always based upon a certain perspective and there's no perspective that can hold everything on every level, wich is why grand-unifying-theories never work and attempts to come up with a GUT, to bridge the gap between relativity and quantum mechanics ALWAYS strand in only a better description of the same incommensurable views or yet another gap.

In relation to this, you have to see that any description is always bound by the rules of how you describe things and the elements that you use to desrcibe things. This automatically brings all kinds of limitations with it.

Every view has these limitations. There is always a core of stuff that falls perfectly into the description and than there are the edges where it's becoming a bit edgy and finally there are things that cannot fit the description anymore.
I always use the example of building a house: if you build a house, you will use principles of euclidian geometry, and it's important to note that YOU ARE RIGHT in doing this. When you build a very, very big house, then euclidian geometry however, can no longer apply because of the shape of the earth. So if you will build a house that is realy big but not very, very, very big...just very big, then you can use euclidian geometry, but you will have to push and squeeze a little bit here and there to make it fit. There is a point where pushing and squeezing won't work anymore and the euclidian geometry no longer apply's. So there is an area where it perfectly apply's, then there is the area where it becomes a bit edgy and finally there are the areas that no longer can fit the (in this case euclidian) perspective.

Maybe some mathematicians went crazy because they couldn't deal with this uncertainty: there is the story of followers of the cult of pythagoras who commited suicide when they found out that the root of 2 CANNOT be completely calculated ever: there is no limit to the digit's of the root of 2, it's an infinite series of numbers...or maybe it isn't infinite and it does and somewher...but there's no way of telling.

Every field of human investigation has brought forth it's own uncertainty principles. If there's one way to truly describe the universe, it is with an equation for it's uncertainty.

The universal uncertainty principle: this would be the only realy acurate description of life and the universe.
 
Very good points, but just because we can't understand the way in which the universe machine works, doesn't mean it doesn't work in a set way. Our perspective is limited but I've always believed that our universe is a smaller part of an even bigger puzzle. This puzzle may even have an infinite number of pieces, but I still think it's all got to be held together by something.
 
First of all every description of anything is always based upon a certain perspective and there's no perspective that can hold everything on every level, wich is why grand-unifying-theories never work and attempts to come up with a GUT, to bridge the gap between relativity and quantum mechanics ALWAYS strand in only a better description of the same incommensurable views or yet another gap.
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Made me remember that another scene in Contact when Ellie shows Hadden the plans they got from the aliens and explains how they cannot be matched with each other to form a seamless whole.

Then Hadden shows her how to do it. "It has a solution, but you have to think like a Vegan." And then raises the whole thing up to the N+1th dimension where it has an obvious solution.

I think all of these patterns (like the search for the GUT) are here to force humanity to make this step to the next dimension, whatever that may mean. In the end, we become so frustrated that we don't find the f*cking solution that we have an ego death and then we are born again on the next level, in the form of an "aha" experience of the next Einstein.
 
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