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GVG use with liquid pad failed, need advice on other methods!

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In relation to the previous post: I just found description of "flaming" written by endlessness:

Start the lighter farther away from the bowl. I empty all my lungs, and start inhaling very slowly as I approach the lighter, so that the tip of the blue flame is inside the bowl and the ceramic filter starts to glow red (though not too much). Then as soon as I see the first signs of any vapour (basically a second or two), I already move the lighter farther away so that the tip of the blue flame is a few (maybe 2?) centimeters above the bowl (but still directed towards the center of course). I keep pulling with my full lungs and the lighter still on till the last maybe 3-4 seconds where I turn off the lighter and just inhale whatever vapor is already inside the GVG

Compared to this method, I held the flame inside the bowl a bit too long and moved the flame away to only about 0,5-1 cm instead of about 2cm. Probably with this method above I could achieve smoother vapor... Any comments on the subject of "smoother vapor" are welcome.
 
Not sure if this has already been addressed elsewhere - recently decided to go with a GVG and saw these screens - Glass Accessories for Bongs and Water Pipes - wondering if anyone's used these before with straight spice in GVG? The titanium/tighter weave mesh is appealing to me and the 5/8" diameter is the same size as the screens from VG. Your input is appreciated! :)
 
I am having a problem with the spice just melting and going thru the copper scrubber. I can only guess that I am putting the flame to far into the bowl of the GVG and the spice is getting heated to fast. Very, very annoying.
 
behindthelight said:
I am having a problem with the spice just melting and going thru the copper scrubber. I can only guess that I am putting the flame to far into the bowl of the GVG and the spice is getting heated to fast. Very, very annoying.
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Shouldn't be heat issue, but is a matter of screen thickness and speed of inhalation.
 
Well, I tried again today. Did it slower and let it heat up first before I even attempted to inhale. I got a decent amount of vapor and held it for about 10 seconds. I messed up a little bit though, I lost some of the vapor do to 1 cough, but it was still my most successful attempt by far.

I some some really good CEV's for about 3 minutes. Definitely not even close to a breakthru, but I know this is a step towards it.
 
what was your dosage?

what made you cough? are you a smoker?

the vapour should be pretty smooth so shouldnt make you cough, or was it that the vapour was thick? sometimes i find that when i get it spot on it vapes so much at once that its like an overload of vapour and its alot to take at once.
 
behindthelight said:
Well, I tried again today. Did it slower and let it heat up first before I even attempted to inhale. I got a decent amount of vapor and held it for about 10 seconds. I messed up a little bit though, I lost some of the vapor do to 1 cough, but it was still my most successful attempt by far.

I some some really good CEV's for about 3 minutes. Definitely not even close to a breakthru, but I know this is a step towards it.
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OK seems that you aren't getting leakage at least... Try less heat and maybe do it in two inhalations. Practice makes perfect.
 
3rdI said:
what was your dosage?

what made you cough? are you a smoker?

the vapour should be pretty smooth so shouldnt make you cough, or was it that the vapour was thick? sometimes i find that when i get it spot on it vapes so much at once that its like an overload of vapour and its alot to take at once.
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Well, I took a small piece of foil and put that on my scale and than zeroed/tared it. Then added 40mg of spice. I then heated up my copper scrubber in the gvg and tried to pour the spice into/onto the copper scrubber. There was a little bit of the spice left on the foil you know? Just a bunch of little random specks that you can't get off.

No, I am not a smoker. I've never smoked anything ever. When I coughed, I think I lost a good amount of the dose there, so that was disappointing, but I think I am getting this down now. It was weird, I didn't cough because it was that harsh, I just think I coughed because I wasn't ready or something. Hard to explain.
 
tele said:
OK seems that you aren't getting leakage at least... Try less heat and maybe do it in two inhalations. Practice makes perfect.
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Yeah, I think it went well actually. If I hadn't coughed, I think it would have been a lot stronger. I'm just gonna keep at it.
 
behindthelight said:
No, I am not a smoker. I've never smoked anything ever. When I coughed, I think I lost a good amount of the dose there, so that was disappointing, but I think I am getting this down now. It was weird, I didn't cough because it was that harsh, I just think I coughed because I wasn't ready or something. Hard to explain.
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ive smoked for about 15 years and the sudden on rush of alot of vapour, when your not ready for it, nearly made me cough the first time, i was caught of guard so to speak.

sounds like your well on your way now:thumb_up: .
 
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