Harmalas Extraction - Basing step question or possible problem

[Voidstepper]

Let me just preface this by stating that I am not able to take a picture at this moment but I will post one later if need be.

After working my way deep into the Harmala extraction using the Tao of Rue tek I am not certain if something has gone awry or if everything is good to go.

After filtration upon filtration I've based the mixture with a lye solution. This turned cloudy as expected. After it sat it almost appears as though it were curdled milk or like a poorly mixed Paralyzer (for lack of a better description). Its been about 12 hours and the solution has almost entirely separated with globby looking things sunk to the bottom and a more transparent brick coloured on top.

Is this normal? I haven't seen any pictures of what it looks like separated so I just want to make sure if this is worth continuing or abandon ship.

Cheers

 

[wolf8312]

Can you please spell out exactly what you did and plan to do from first step to the last?

 

[Voidstepper]

Materials: Syrian Rue, distilled water and lye

1- Boiled with distilled water and vinegar
2 - Repeated step - 5X
3 - Mixed a lye solution 200ml water and 50g or lye.
4 - Added solution stirring until the mixture is milky.
5 - waiting for harmalas to precipitate.

 

[Voidstepper]

In the next steps I will continue to follow the Tao of Syrian Rue tech

Decant mixture leaving what I hope are solids

Dissolve harmalas into warm acid solution

Mansk

Re-base to purify

Back to acid

mansk

Back to acid

Final base with sodium carbonate.

 

[wolf8312]

Follow the tek and go for it dude! Sorry cant be more help but I dont know what ya looking at!

I tried some purified harmalas once but have got to say they were so lacking in comparison to the full spectrum raw experience I went back to eating whole seed. It seemed that apart from activating the DMT they had no psychoactive effect or ability to heal whatsoever.

 

[pitubo]

Voidstepper, from the description you are giving it sounds like what is to be expected.

After decanting the precipitated base, you can rinse the precipitate by adding fresh water, shaking, precipitating and decanting again. You can repeat this a few times until the rinse water is clean enough. Then continue with acidification and Manske salting, etc.

 

[Voidstepper]

Thanks for the tips. I continued without rinsing, as I hadn't checked back until after I had already proceeded. Things worked out in the end.

Will rinsing decrease the number of clean-up conversions required for a purer finished product? That is convert to base to salt to acid etc....

 

[brilliantlydim]

I am currently about to start my own Rue extraction.

I believe the rinsing is to get any excess lye out, but I don't think it will hurt clean up either.


What part of Can are you from Void?

 

[tryptographer]

Rinsing is good! Here's a picture showing the decanted lye washing water, first wash left and getting cleaner to the right.

(But this was done with phosphoric acid for the primary extraction of the seeds instead of acetic acid, results may vary!)