has anyone tried bufotenine pharmahuasca?

[rawmo]

Just wondering if anyone has had a go at using bufotenine salt instead of DMT salt with a RIMA such as Caapi for an Ayahuasca style trip?

any reports?

I haven't found any from a quick look.

does it work?

 

[soulfood]

oooooh you'd be ever so sick

Try drinking a caapi tea then take some bufotenine sublingually or some other non oral route and that should be a pretty darn nice experience.

 

[69ron]

I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.

Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca.

 

[rawmo]

I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.

Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca.

so it could be good for those into the 'la purga' aspect of aya then

you reckon standard anti-emetics would work just as well?

 

[Touche Guevara]

I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.

Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca.

Because the active bufo base converts to HCL in the stomach, which is responsible for the toxic effect, right?

 

[jamie]

these reasons are why I haven;t tried the alcohol-vilca drink either..me and alcohol are not friends even by a long shot..so I doubt it would go over well..probabily just make the bufo even more nauseating.

 

[69ron]

I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.

Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca.

so it could be good for those into the 'la purga' aspect of aya then

you reckon standard anti-emetics would work just as well?

Yes, but probably not as well as Datura stramonium does. Also, most anti-emetics negatively effect psychedelics, making the trip weaker, while Datura stramonium makes the trip a little stronger. Datura stramonium seeds contain mostly hyoscyamine. Hyoscyamine blocks the nausea caused by most psychedelics and also potentiates the effects of psychedelics even at the very low Datura stramonium doses mentioned above.

 

[69ron]

I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.

Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca.

Because the active bufo base converts to HCL in the stomach, which is responsible for the toxic effect, right?

Probably. If you take freebase bufotenine sublingually, it doesn’t cause nausea unless you swallow it afterwards.