Have the buggers got you stuck in the "thinking" trap??

[christian]

Life is fundamentally simple, i believe. Yet displaced by the amount of noise and distraction in todays life, you may think otherwise.

--Really, it should simply be a case of you think something, you do it-no question, no doubt. ( this is based on the fact that healthy humans want a simple happy life, and no unnecessary hassle. )

--So what's getting in your way..Is it what your parents said, is it religion, is it what the government say, is it your doctor, is it your friends...What do they really know about YOU anyway???

--Why limit yourself to what they think???...what do they know anyhow about the mystery of life ??

 

[jamie]

It seems your last 3 threads or so have all been basically so similar that you could have easily combined all of them into one thread..please keep this in mind every time you decide to start a new thread..this could have easily been edited into the thread you started earlier.

 

[christian]

I think this only seems so due to the fact that i've posted them so soon, and perhaps this doesn't take to your fancy, fractal. I agree that perhaps this may provide excess stimulation to one's thinking, but I don't think they are any less valid than other posts, however.

-In future i'll allow more "digestion time"

 

[AlbertKLloyd]

Life is fundamentally simple, i believe. Yet displaced by the amount of noise and distraction in todays life, you may think otherwise.

--Really, it should simply be a case of you think something, you do it-no question, no doubt. ( this is based on the fact that healthy humans want a simple happy life, and no unnecessary hassle. )

--So what's getting in your way..Is it what your parents said, is it religion, is it what the government say, is it your doctor, is it your friends...What do they really know about YOU anyway???

--Why limit yourself to what they think???...what do they know anyhow about the mystery of life ??

i think agree, so i do
simple enough

 

[The Traveler]

I think this only seems so due to the fact that i've posted them so soon, and perhaps this doesn't take to your fancy, fractal.

It doesn't take my fancy as well.:roll:

Please don't spam the forum. And PLEASE, use that brain of yours.


The Traveler

 

[universecannon]

--Really, it should simply be a case of you think something, you do it-no question, no doubt.

this could be true in some sense..like in cases of 'flowing in the moment' where we simply act out of intuition

but i actually think what you said describes a huge problem with society as a whole..everywhere we see compulsive behavior where people think something, and then they just go do it without really putting some deep thought into those mental processes or the large picture regarding their actions..questioning how our actions and thoughts affect ourselves, others, and the planet is important and to infrequent of a thing.. it is a lack of thinking and a lack of doubting the current paradigm that people have found themselves throughout history that is behind the huge lack of consciousness we see.. which is threatening the planet and its inhabitants.

 

[christian]

Apologies Fractal, and Traveller. Point understood, no disrespect intended.

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>>-That's an interesting point you put there, Universecanon.

-But don't you think that what you said really is because of how we could "get in trouble if we did so", simply because of todays limitations from religions, governments, and police??

--Surely if there's a problem it's best honestly dealing with it directly rather than delaying it through police intervention, drawn out court cases, and dodgy lawyers???, surely if someone beats up your girlfriend, you are right to teach him a direct lesson??...or is he allowed to get away with it thanks to drawn out complication???--and anyway does this teach them the direct natural lesson they NEED to know i ask??..Have we become a laughable ball of putty that people can manipulate with drawn out tiresome complication???-Where's the life in that ...it's just NOT natural, or right!? :surprised

--Whilst i understand that we can get it wrong in "the moment", we can also put it right just as fast. Perhaps you are talking more from a deadly weapons point of view, i am talking more of a fists point of view ( being brittish:lol: )--( for example).

-Just my insignificant thoughts there.

 

[jacetea]

Getting back on track, christian is more or less correct. Life is simple in terms of meaning. We've been so distracted and mislead that we forgot the most important fact: Nothing matters. There is no meaning in anything, it's all a human illusion. You live and you die and eventually the entire earth with be depleted and humanity will be long gone. Nothing you ever do, say, or think will ever matter. It doesn't matter how technical, spiritual, or physical you look at the problem, nothing matters.

Human beings are just a conglomeration of cells that happen to think and behave a certain way. We are no more meaningful / important than a grain of sand.

 

[Chupang]

Thanks for posting this thread, im currently stuck in a thinking trap , and this got me thinking on stopping thought

 

[dmtk2852]

I don't know Christian, a lot of your posts/threads strike me with these vague repetetive concepts, so I agree with Trav and Fractal on that aspect. It seems you're on the right path, I think you need to better articulate and understand your messages/ideas and their context.
Life is simple but it is also complex, believe me I'm studying basic biology right now and as a Eukaryote, a single cell in your body is more complex in the actions it takes than you could ever imagine.
But on a macro scale life is simple, especially when you consider that you die.
I think Gandalf put it best when he said "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

 

[christian]

Hi DMTK.

-Thanks for your comments. I realise that if we look at even the simplest organism and dissect it, we will see that it is extremely complex, but to me that is like trying to analize hyperspace. It's the same thing..Life goes on and on.....We can never get to the bottom of anything in life. We can try to understand, but what we really know is but a joke. Maybe what we understand is what we only allow ourselves to understand...?

-We overthink and create fast sports cars, super 3d plasma television sets, and ubercool mobile phones. Yes, anything that will help distract us from the simple truth that we are really spiritual beings...where sports cars, 3d tv, and mobile phones are a pityful substitute, and very mediocre at that. No matter how much man conquers space and other planets-he will NEVER be any closer to his true nature, just further away. Overthinking is the disease of the modernworld in my opinion. And this is because man is still terrified of facing the truth of what he is..and that is why we have allowed "the buggers" to maintain us into their thinking trap....:idea:

-We are not our jobs, fast cars, pride, conditioning, etc...and certainly not "thinking"...we are spiritual beings that live on this living planet...anything other than that is a product of mans thinking mind and ego.
--just my 2 pence!

 

[dmtk2852]

Hi DMTK.

-Thanks for your comments. I realise that if we look at even the simplest organism and dissect it, we will see that it is extremely complex, but to me that is like trying to analize hyperspace. It's the same thing..Life goes on and on.....We can never get to the bottom of anything in life. We can try to understand, but what we really know is but a joke. Maybe what we understand is what we only allow ourselves to understand...?

-We overthink and create fast sports cars, super 3d plasma television sets, and ubercool mobile phones. Yes, anything that will help distract us from the simple truth that we are really spiritual beings...where sports cars, 3d tv, and mobile phones are a pityful substitute, and very mediocre at that. No matter how much man conquers space and other planets-he will NEVER be any closer to his true nature, just further away. Overthinking is the disease of the modernworld in my opinion. And this is because man is still terrified of facing the truth of what he is..and that is why we have allowed "the buggers" to maintain us into their thinking trap....:idea:

-We are not our jobs, fast cars, pride, conditioning, etc...and certainly not "thinking"...we are spiritual beings that live on this living planet...anything other than that is a product of mans thinking mind and ego.
--just my 2 pence!

I think you're getting a little more specific here. But isn't the complete opposite possible? We live in a strictly material world and spiritual things(religion, meditation, psychedelic drugs) are just escapes and disctractions from this existence?

I know by your other posts that you feel unsatisfied with the material, current state of the world, so you must aknowledge that its entirely possible the opposite of your idea is true and you are more inclined to view it the other way.
Hope you understand what I mean here:wink: Just open yourself up, and don't tie yourself down to one way of viewing the world.