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Hbwr vs mornig glory for lsa tek?

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SHroomtroll

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Lsa is getting scheduled soon in my country so i´m thinking about stocking some seeds for a few trips at least.

I have no problem aquiring lsd most of the time but i would like to test out lsa a few times to feel the differences.

So which seeds are my best bet?
 
it is mostly personal preference, but ololiuqui > hbwr > morning glory
but they are all enjoyable.
morning glory and hbwr both cause nausea, but it is easily suppressed (especially with the aid of cannabis), or you can do a cold water extraction (grind seeds, soak in cold water, stirring occasionally, throw away seed pieces, drink water) but that requires about twice the amount of seeds as just eating them plain.

every experience i have had with these plants have been pleasurable (i have yet to experiment with ololiuqui, but i am planning on growing soon).

ololiuqui is the most potent, but has smaller seeds than hbwr, so it requires more seeds for the same dose. (10-40 as opposed to 5-15)
 
ololiuqui is the best on its own. Creates an awesome experience.

Morning Glory seeds can go either way. They are great for both just eating, or doing a cold water extraction.

HBWR though, I would only buy if you actually plan on extracting the LSA. Otherwise, the nausea, muscle tightening, and vasoconstriction just don't make it worth while. But if you do a throughout extraction on it, the resulting LSA is an awesome experience with almost no negative side effects.
 
i will most likely some kind of extract, i would love to have a dropper with lsa at home.

I will probably go with the hawaian hbwr then from a trusted vendor.
 
SHroomtroll said:
i will most likely some kind of extract, i would love to have a dropper with lsa at home.

I will probably go with the hawaian hbwr then from a trusted vendor.
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i want a dropper of lsa ;_;
up until now i was always happy with my plants. now i am a sad.
you should feel incredibly guilty, enough so that you send me a vial of liquid LSA to make me happy again ;) (i am so subtle it amazes me)

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Good Mimosa, Great H-HBWR, and fantastic hugs. <3 these folk.
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i have had amazing results with K..T..bOt4nicals as well, very great personal experience, the owner even helped me with my amanita muscaria extraction ^_^
i cannot recommend them highly enough (same with w0rlds33dsupply.org)
 
Just got 100 hawaian hbwr seeds :)

I will probably try the heptane wash followed by alchohol soak for maximum ejzid power with minimal bad stuff.

How would a vial with vodka and lsa store in room temp?

Or could i just do a few naphta washes to get the bad stuff out and then just eat the seeds?
 
In order for the naptha washes to be successful, the seeds have to be grounded into a powder. If you really want to grind up one dose of seeds, naptha wash it a few times, and evap, then i suppose you could.

But if your going that far, you might as well finish the tek with an acetone/ethanol wash. After you finish the naptha washes, you could probably pull the LSA with some everclear/high-proof vodka, and then you would have LSA in dropper form.

My advice:
Eat one seed and see how it effects you.
If it seems pleasant then take a higher dose, 5-7 seeds. Then see how it effects you.
If you like it unextracted, then save a bunch of seeds and only extract some. If you dont like the body effects, then save one or two seed doses and extract the rest.
 
I´m probably trying this soon, i´m thinking about grinding about 50 seeds and then doing a few heptane washes on them, then ley them out so all the heptane can evap.

After that i´m thinking about putting them in about 100ml of vodka in a small bottle and keep the hopefully cleaned up seeds in it as long as i need for the lsa to go in the vodka.
that i will pour all the vodka in a new bottle and discard the hopefully useless powder, maybe i need to do this step several times with less vodka?

then i will let the vodka evap to about 20ml so one strong dose should be around 5ml.

Would this be a good way to go about this? also the strongest vodka i can get in my country is 40% alkohol, is this enough or do i need to get stronger stuff?

I guess i could use acetone and get a powder product but i would prefer to have a liquid extract.
 
Lsd has been coming by me alot lately so i have not had the chance to try lsa yet but when i do it i really wan´t to make the best out of it.

Most people don´t seem to like it because of body load and nausea, but is this from the actual lsa or the seeds?

If i make a careful extract while i still have these side effects?
 
I can't speak for pure LSA, but for the LSA extract I made from my HBWR seeds, there is significantly less body load.

I have taken just the seeds ground up before, and yeah the body load and nausea can be really uncomfortable. The most uncomfortable part, is the muscle tightening. Cannabis can cure up the nausea no problem, but the muscle tightening is still really annoying.

The extract definitely reduces the body load, muscle tightening, and nausea. When I took the extract, I had almost no nausea or body load, and only minimal muscle cramping. If you have a large amount of HBWR, the extract is worth doing for sure. I probably wouldn't take the time to extract morning glory or ololiqhui though.
 
I've noticed with both HBWR and ololiuqui that one of two things tends to happen, either I have a weird body load with some awesome magic visuals, or I just get a weird body load. My guess is that awesome magic visuals come from the LSA, with the body load being more a result of the other compounds in the seeds... I've had really amazing trips from HBWR, and had bad drunk feelings from ololiuqui, as well as vice versa, I wouldn't be surprised if this is related to seed freshness and LSA content.
 
So i´m in the middle of a extraction of 80 hawaian hbwr, somehow i got 130seeds instead of 100, so i saved 50 for later.

After 48hours and 150ml of heptane in 5washes i decided to take every acetone soak and directly drip them on thick papper right away, this will leave me with 60 2x2xm blotters plus a few stripes which i had under the pappers to absorb any spills.

My question is how much acetone will be needed to extract everything? i´m on my third 1h soak and will do a fourth one overnight to get most out.

this will total about 150ml of acetone, should this be enough?
 
Very interesting, after working with this a whole day, dripping alot of acetone on paper i actually started to feel a slight high,

When i got outside it felt like an acid comeup but with no visuals.

Def not placebo either, i will probably do a real test run really soon since i liked the effects i got.
 
Hey shroomtroll have you tested your extract at all?

Currently testing out a few different extract methods myself and Im interested to know how successul your acetone pull was? Have you tested if it is psychoactive?

Pulled a batch with 3 extracts of acetone giving a cloudy off white solution. Upon reducing to half volume it turned clear and precipitated some unknown light yellow/white solids.

Pulled the mush 2 times more with alcohol, gave very clear golden yellow solution. (believe has considerable amounts of alkaloids in it)

Pulling the mush 1 final time with acidic alcohol to get any alkaloid straglers left behind.
 
Nope not yet, i have saved the seeds just incase there is some actives left in it.

Not sure when i will have time to sample the blotters i made, i have given a bunch away though so maybe one of my friends will try them before i have the chance.


But i can def tell that i got some kind of effect the day i did the extraction, not really sure how i got in me, maybe i licked my fingers during the process or something but i was def feeling something that reminded me of a threshold lsd trip.
 
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