Help around CIELO mescaline tek

[Maritzy]

So I did the tek, and ended up with nada. I do believe the material i had was good. I was very careful to not add too much water in the first step, and perhaps leaned more to the dry side, but it looked right. I opted for the magnetic stir crystalisation, and after 2 hours there was nothing. I added another t spoon of citric acid and then let sit for 3 days. After pouring off the EA there is a cakey powder on the bottom of the jar and needs heavy scraping to remove, but im wondering if thats left over/undissolved citric Acid. How can I tell? I did give a little taste and its tart with a little bitter..
Another question. In the Coffee plunger pre citric acid there is a dried goo. Its a very thick sticky amber resin. Could this be mescaline that dropped out before the citric?
My EA pulls were extremely dark green...perhaps the magic is stuck in too concentrated solvent?...Im wondering this as if there is something to try release the magic, or if i should just wash the citric EA and start fresh and forfeit any yield

 

[modern]

it's likely not undissolved citric acid and is your mescaline citrate. When too dry you get a hard goo. The easiest way would be adding a drop or two of water and readding the EA you used and putting on the magnetic stirring. You can also do isopropanol to recrystallize it.

 

[Maritzy]

it's likely not undissolved citric acid and is your mescaline citrate. When too dry you get a hard goo. The easiest way would be adding a drop or two of water and readding the EA you used and putting on the magnetic stirring. You can also do isopropanol to recrystallize it.

Thanks for that, ill give it a go.. out of interest, do you know if the goo is active?
do you recommend magnetic, or perhaps slow crystalisation?
and should i add extra citric?

 

[modern]

The goo is the mescaline citrate it just didn't crystalize... it is indeed active.

You do not need extra citric acid... just 1 drop of water NOT a lot and add ethyl acetate. Magnetic will let you know quickly if it'll crystalize or not. If you add to much water it'll turn into a transparent goo and you'll need to add even more fresh ethyl acetate to fix or iso 99%

 

[Maritzy]

The goo is the mescaline citrate it just didn't crystalize... it is indeed active.

You do not need extra citric acid... just 1 drop of water NOT a lot and add ethyl acetate. Magnetic will let you know quickly if it'll crystalize or not. If you add to much water it'll turn into a transparent goo and you'll need to add even more fresh ethyl acetate to fix or iso 99%

This goo however formed before I added the citric acid, i transferred the liquid after straining from pulp into a second jar for stirring with citric acid, and the goo was in first jar( pre citric)

 

[Transform]

This goo however formed before I added the citric acid, i transferred the liquid after straining from pulp into a second jar for stirring with citric acid, and the goo was in first jar( pre citric)

Did you perhaps push the plunger down a little to hard - and/or maybe your paste was a little too wet? There could be mescaline stuck in this presumably aqueous residue, so it may be worth returning it to the press after mixing in a little more lime, maybe.

A picture of this goo could also be helpful for troubleshooting. Just how goo-like is it - like glue, syrup, or more watery? [EDIT: OK, I re-read your post and you clearly state it's a dryish amber resin. I'm not convinced it will contain any significant amount of mescaline, but you could scrape it up and try extracting it with a bit more EA. Maybe test a few specks of it with presumptive reagents if you can.]

 

[Maritzy]

Did you perhaps push the plunger down a little to hard - and/or maybe your paste was a little too wet? There could be mescaline stuck in this presumably aqueous residue, so it may be worth returning it to the press after mixing in a little more lime, maybe.

A picture of this goo could also be helpful for troubleshooting. Just how goo-like is it - like glue, syrup, or more watery? [EDIT: OK, I re-read your post and you clearly state it's a dryish amber resin. I'm not convinced it will contain any significant amount of mescaline, but you could scrape it up and try extracting it with a bit more EA. Maybe test a few specks of it with presumptive reagents if you can.]

Thanks for this feedback. I think i definitely pushed the plunger too hard. I was trying to get all the EA out. I feel I cautioned more on the dry side of the watering process, and took my time( to the expense of a forearm workout) but got it to a place where the paste was uniform. I didnt do the washing soda step but i think i will in future to gauge my wetness level. I gave the goo a little taste and it has an alkaloid bitterness, but not sure how safe it would be to ingest . Im not sure where to get presumtive reagents, so its either just swallow some resin, or as Modern suggested add a drop or two water and add more EA and see if it crystalises...

If i was to add lime to the goo( its peobably less than 0.5g) how much would i add? its already seperate from the plant material so are you saying to return the goo as well to the original paste with lime and re-EA the lot? And, should i purify the EA from citric or use as is( i put 2 t spoons of citric acid into 800ml EA)

 

[Transform]

Thanks for this feedback. I think i definitely pushed the plunger too hard. I was trying to get all the EA out. I feel I cautioned more on the dry side of the watering process, and took my time( to the expense of a forearm workout) but got it to a place where the paste was uniform. I didnt do the washing soda step but i think i will in future to gauge my wetness level. I gave the goo a little taste and it has an alkaloid bitterness, but not sure how safe it would be to ingest . Im not sure where to get presumtive reagents, so its either just swallow some resin, or as Modern suggested add a drop or two water and add more EA and see if it crystalises...

If i was to add lime to the goo( its peobably less than 0.5g) how much would i add? its already seperate from the plant material so are you saying to return the goo as well to the original paste with lime and re-EA the lot? And, should i purify the EA from citric or use as is( i put 2 t spoons of citric acid into 800ml EA)

The main thing is, before returning EA to the lime pulls, any remaining citric has to be removed. This is what SC washes are for. The gooey stuff might, at a guess, be phytol and other lipids from the plant material. It seems unlikely that mescaline freebase would congeal in this way in the presence of a solvent like EA. A lab analysis would help clear up this question.

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