Herbs Infused FreeBase DMT

[Make Shift]

Hey,

Been thinking about this lately...honestly haven't found a single post regarding this.
So this is my doubt, say i infuse some blue lotus + calea (say 2 grams each of electric sheep) in IPA for a week and then into that alcohol i dissolve 1 gram of freebase dmt crystals. So, essentially now i have IPA enriched with essence of blue lotus, calea and dmt. I let it evaporate, won't my freebase crystals be left out after the evaporation ? And won't this freebase have the effects of Electric Sheep ? SO vaping this crystals will have any effects of ES or this is a pure waste of my time ?

 

[FLeP]

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When you are first starting out it is best to simply follows directions until you get a better understanding of what is happening. Experimentation is rarely rewarding for the novice.

That said, what you propose is an interesting idea. Unfortunately what you will end up with is a less potent freebase infused with the essences of calea and blue lotus. It would be a shame if it was so dilluted with the calea and lotus that you couldn't blast off with it. You could give it a shot and tweak the ratios until you end up with something decent but you would be far better rewarded following the Electric Sheep recipe.

You're still missing the harmalas :twisted:

 

[Make Shift]

Hey FLeP, we meet again hahaha :d

So, what if I use 1 gram herbs infused in IPA with 1 gram dmt? Same like ES, only here no real herbs, just the essence of the herbs.

ES is enhanced and not changa eh?

 

[FLeP]

As far as I know Electric Sheep is a changa recipe. Been a while since I looked at it. Changa requires harmalas. Without harmalas what you have is enhanced leaf.

What you propose will lower the potency of your spice. You are adding herb essences to your dmt. Whether a 1 gram infusion will significantly lower your potency, I do not know because I don't know how much oil and junk is in those herbs. If you've got a spare gram to experiment with then by all means proceed. Once the stuff is in there though you will have a tough time getting it back out if it doesn't turn out to your liking. Maybe tweak your ratios so you won't be wasting so much spice should your experiment leave you with an unsatisfactory product.

IMHO you would be better off infusing your herbs rather than the other way around.

 

[Make Shift]

Yeah, that sounds pretty straight forward.
And no, I don't have enough spice to play around with, I got 3 grams with me, and I don't make mine either, got to get them from a friend who makes it for which I pay a premium, half way across the globe so to speak.
RIMA///
ES is enhanced leaf brother,no harmalas or RIMA/MAOI.

There is a slightly weaker version of ES, maybe not weaker but different, small addition of passion fruit with nice quantity of harmalas

Name is Witchdrum : 1000mg herb blend consisting of 40% Blue Lotus 40% Calea Zacatechichi 20% Passionflower 300mg Freebase Harmala Alkaloids + 1000mg Freebase DMT,

 

[FLeP]

In any case if you want your Sheep Electric I would recommend the harmalas. 8)

 

[DeltaSpice]

You might be better off just dropping spice into IPA and then pouring that onto the Calea/lotus . You would then have enhanced leaf.

Or if you have no Harmala use Passion flower for a herb , that stuff is strong.

Or soak Caapi leaves in IPA for a month.

 

[Make Shift]

Hey delta spice,

I got me caapi vine and leaves, I was thinking of setting them aside for ayahausca. I also ordered some rue, will try and extract harmala out of it, but extraction from caapi seems easier in theory.
And I don't have much caapi, to get 2/3 grams of alkaloids I need atleast 80 grams of caapi eh?
Infusing in IPA is better or boiling and reducing to get 20x onto 1 gram caapi would be stronger ?

 

[FLeP]

I have a feeling most of the people that frequent the nexus regularly go for extraction so it may be hard to get a fast answer on boiling vs IPA infusion. Boiling would obviously be faster and it does appeal to my senses as this is how caapi is traditionally prepared. IPA infusion seems more common so may be the more reliable of the two or perhaps it creates a more desireable product. The quickest answers are available using a search engine. Find reliable posts and rely on that information.

 

[DeltaSpice]

Hey delta spice,

I got me caapi vine and leaves, I was thinking of setting them aside for ayahausca. I also ordered some rue, will try and extract harmala out of it, but extraction from caapi seems easier in theory.
And I don't have much caapi, to get 2/3 grams of alkaloids I need atleast 80 grams of caapi eh?
Infusing in IPA is better or boiling and reducing to get 20x onto 1 gram caapi would be stronger ?

If you want Ayahuasca then you need the vine not the leaf.

If I was you I would extract from rue. It s cheap, gives you untold kitchen chemistry experience and its good stuff in Changa.

The vine is expensive and a bit more subtle in some respects compared to Rue.

Never heard of boiling to get 20x.

Extracting essence from Caapi leaves will never be as good as Harmala Alkaloids freebase.

Don't quote me on any of the above

 

[Make Shift]

Yeah rue extracts give about 5% alkaloids eh.
Should try and extract from it.

I read in the changa description by Olympus Mon that enriching 10/20x caapi and extraction is pretty much the same.
Also cost effective not to extract from caapi since the yield is less, suggests to use caapi enriched, that's where I get confused, some say infusing in IPA for a month, some say boiling will do.

Olympus mon apparently uses a blend in the ratio 0.8:1.75:1 (spice:harmalas:herbs), best thing about this blend will be the density and less smoking material, but a small quantity will send us to hell.