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hi all. Scared to hit the pipe!

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astralspice said:
Although it's not the greatest idea to blast off drunk but having 3 or 4 beers gives me the courage that I need.

That absolutely does not work for me. If I have alcohol in my system the trip will be very superficial or dull. Very confusing and just some bullshit. Very weird how just a little alcohol can absolutely ruin my trips. My thoughts and what I see becomes extremely scattered. Nothing like the real trips I get when vaping sober.
 
Much respect..
from sky diving ,to cave diving, and all in between..the things i do..
Again i will say...to make the jump is one of the bravest things i have done or knew of anyone doing..
The fear you feel is very common. You have respect for it<3 and thats a good thing..
wait till you breakthrough.. then your respect will only grow more...

good luck<3 oden
 
DMTripper said:
astralspice said:
Although it's not the greatest idea to blast off drunk but having 3 or 4 beers gives me the courage that I need.

That absolutely does not work for me. If I have alcohol in my system the trip will be very superficial or dull. Very confusing and just some bullshit. Very weird how just a little alcohol can absolutely ruin my trips. My thoughts and what I see becomes extremely scattered. Nothing like the real trips I get when vaping sober.

Yea Its the same for me with alcohol. I don't really drink alot but it does help me with the pre flight anxiety
 
the alcool thing is good to know. I'm french so sorry for my lack of words.
I dont think I will be able to go for a breakthrough dose if Im high on weed. just to much anxiety coming from the weed itself.
I love weed, bit to much even, but the sort of edginess adds to much of stress.

I'll try to drink a couple of beers tonight and see if I can do it. the more I talk about the spice to my GF the more she wants to try it.

I dont know whats up with me but I am understanding tons of stuff about me and how I see life just because I cant take the dmt dose. it tells me that I try to control my life because I dont trust life. Ive been raised by a paranoid mother that always take everything like a drama. I'm learning to that I'm afraid of life and of new experiences. In need of control, because Im so damn scared of death.



I thought a lot about my sub-breakthrough experience.

I now remember the first hallucination Ive seen. Right after exhaling my second hit, their was a sort of elve, female I think. She just popped up so fast and left so fast that I didnt remember at first. When I saw her, she like popped out in my vision and leaves went around her as if she cammed out from a bush, it felt like a videogame. She was sort of dressed in green and was surrounded by the spirals, she just dissapered right away. I think that this might have been the plant spirit? The only thing I can think of is that she was welcoming me. The first thing I have seen was that elves. I find this so special. she really came in my vision and I really felt as if she was the sort of welcomer!

I also understand what the red face were telling me. I have to admit I was terrefied about the spirals that was happenin. I was only looking at my right the whole time, eyes closed. what those red face were telling me by pointing to the left is that they were trying to help me to see what was really happening or at least to stop concentrating on the negative hallucinations. I kept on looking at those bizarre and frightening spirals but on my left, I was seeing something in white or some sort. the red faces were telling me to stop being frighetened and blinded by my fears and see the light that was right there!! I find this quite special also because it makes me think of yin-yan signs. the black being on the right side and the light on the left side! well the fear was clearly at my right and I wasnt able to see what was at my left. when I tried to look at it I think I seen a sort of big statue covered that was emanating light!

Godammit. it was so evident. My whole awareness was toward the weird spirals, the red faces were telling me to look at light.
anyways, the fact that I'm confronted by dmt is helping tremedously. I know im not ready for it, but I'm relearning what I already knew. I used to let go a lot when I was yonger on shrooms, I need to get that back.

I'm learning some mantra like om or the fealsee mantra which I ned to clearly integrate. I cant control everything in my life. I will die and I need to accept this. I need to accept that I will fear, that fear is good, that fear is part of me.

ok whatever about my ego,. it gets things worst

cheers
 
The mushroom told me recently, and very specifically; "The shaking, nervous tension you feel when getting ready to partake is all of your stress and worries, all of the body armoring you carry around, the psychic and real wounds, all of this is your body getting ready to let go of that stuff."

This makes alot of sense to me. If only to trick yourself into getting into hyperspace in a positive and less fearful mind-state (not to imply thats what your doing at all, just how i see myself in that situation). Set and setting for me is the most important factor, mind state being the key thing to focus on. However, thinking of that fear as a release of all the pent up emotional garbage we carry around resonates deeply with me, and have felt exactly that after returning from a journey at times. Its ok to hurt, fear, hate, etc. Just don't bottle it up or it will flow out in peak expirences that force you to feel, whether the catalyst is drug induced or not. It happens to people all the time.

Its all about preparation for something you cannot control. That almost always involves fear no matter who you are, or what you are undertaking. If you learn to follow the yellow brick road, it will lead you to oz, a wonderful and mysterious place, but unknown nonetheless. You control everything up to a point, beyond that your not in control. If you can teach yourself to deal with that concept it can be a very powerful skill when exploring hyperspace.

Personally i find it very difficult, and spice is like a riddle to me. I have to put it down, come back with a different state of mind and try again. Eventually it will reward you, but you have to be patient, and humble, lest you get a hyper-bitchslap :lol:. I had to learn that the hard way. It makes what tmk said about him only vaping dmt a few times a year, totally understandable, and for me, great advice that has been very rewarding when put to practice.
 
So tell us all what we are wanting to know... How did you cope with the fear? Did it fade at any point? And, now you have an approximate idea of what you are dealing with, do you think you would have as much concern about hitting the pipe the next time? Good on you for going through with it!:thumb_up:
 
I find meditating and writing on my intentions for the journey to be helpful, at least it gives me something to focus on as I fearfully put the pipe to my lips. Good luck!
 
Entheojen said:
So tell us all what we are wanting to know... How did you cope with the fear? Did it fade at any point? And, now you have an approximate idea of what you are dealing with, do you think you would have as much concern about hitting the pipe the next time? Good on you for going through with it!:thumb_up:
well like I said the experience must have last 3 minutes. I then open my eye in a try to leave the world that was unfolding in front of my eye. I couldnt take it.

I am however a little bit more confident. However the intensity of the hallucination did freaked me out and so Im still nervous.

Im more confident however now. I have work on personal issue I feel. I quit smoking weed everyday. already I feel much more grounded in reality but more importantly Im less depressed which gives me the possibilitie to look at the trio in a positive way. when depressed its hard to confront the unknown positively since I see everything on the negative side....

Ill report back this week. I feel that Im ready now

thanks for all the help. After reading a lot latelly in here I sense that my spiritual journey cant be better guided and cant also be avoided. I want to confront my fear of dying.

cheers
 
welcome
glad you took the leap :)

I believe that the fear is a healthy emotion, it will help to keep you mindful of what you are getting into and it forces respect to this powerful substance

I wish you a very positive and enlightening journey into this new chapter of your life:grin:
 
astralspice said:
DMTripper said:
astralspice said:
Although it's not the greatest idea to blast off drunk but having 3 or 4 beers gives me the courage that I need.

That absolutely does not work for me. If I have alcohol in my system the trip will be very superficial or dull. Very confusing and just some bullshit. Very weird how just a little alcohol can absolutely ruin my trips. My thoughts and what I see becomes extremely scattered. Nothing like the real trips I get when vaping sober.

Yea Its the same for me with alcohol. I don't really drink alot but it does help me with the pre flight anxiety
would you then say that drinking would make the hallucination less extreme which could be helpful for the first few breakthrough?
 
My friend
i would wait,till you can control the fear,it deserves that much respect..
Do not muddy the waters just so you can get a hyperjump in..
It is going nowhere,and will be ready when you truly are..

I think you know in your heart that this is true...
make the right choice<3
Oden
 
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