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Dreamer420

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Hi all,
I’ve heard about ayahuasca and dmt for long time now. I’ve always since a child felt more connected to the earth and nature than to other people. Hallucinogenic type drugs have never previously appealed, because I was scared off them by the anti drug type talks. Now, aged 39 and having done my own research, I feel that dmt and or ayahuasca could help me remind myself, my love for the planet and perhaps my place in the world. I really like hearing all the reports where people find senses of truth love and understanding.
So I decided to bite the bullet and ordered 250g of mhrb, and some lye and barretine white spirit, which I’m sure I read on here was good as naphtha. I intend to follow Norman’s tek to try and get myself some dmt.
I have a couple of questions, how long does it take white spirit to evaporate? Is freeze precipitating or evaporating ‘better’ or doesn’t it matter?
Also, as it’s my first time using a psychoactive drug, I intend to start with a low dose and work my way up, what would be advisable as a starting amount?

Many thanks, look forward to growing and learning through using this site as my journey continues!
 
Also, in the tek description, it says that is using powdered bark, 1.5-2x the amount of water should be used. Is that just the water, or a bit more lye too?
Thanks
 
I usually evaporate overnight by placing the dish in front of a fan blowing out an open window in a well ventilated location away from pets and people.

Freeze precip is generally better since the alkaloid crystallizes and precipitates and many of the impurities are remain in the solvent. I usually evaporate the solution about halfway to supersaturate before putting it in the freezer.

I'd say start with 5-10 mg. Have you decided how you will smoke/vape it yet?

The extra water is just to ensure a watery (tea) consistency, you don't really need to add extra lye but putting an extra spoonful in doesn't hurt anything.
 
Thanks for the reply.
To try it to start with I’ve just got a crack pipe and a cooks blowtorch that I’ll take it gentle with…
I do have somewhere a dry herb vape pen I used to use for weed, would that work..?
I did 3 lots of 50ml of white spirit, swirled and stirred it. Then used a meat syringe to suck off the top layer into a glass. Hen decanted that into a second glass to leave behind the last couple of drops of mhrb solution.
So almost all the 150ml of white spirit / dmt mix is now in one glass. I sat that in a pan of boiled water for a while to try and concentrate the solution a bit, and it’s now in the freezer. Will it matter that I put all three extractions together in one?

I’m no good at chemistry, I just struggle to understand how the dmt suspended in that whole 750ml solution absorbs into the tiny 50ml of white spirit floating on top… I’m trusting the process though and keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Will do. I ran a second batch just in case. First one is still in the freezer, second one is sat in a pan of hot water. Two more hours and the first one will have been in the freezer 8 hours, so hoping it will be ready to go through a coffee filter. I will catch the liquid and evaporate it fully to try and get any left.
Dry the crystals out and I’m good to go right?
 
Well, I poured it out through a filter, and scraped what I assumed were dmt crystals from the glass. Put them on another coffee filter and put it on a radiator dry. A few minutes later and they’ve disappeared!? Would dmt crystals melt or evaporate at low temps? Or was it just ice, and I got no dmt? Hoping once the rest of the fluid evaporates there’s something left…
 
Not very, a plug in oil filled radiator? Would I have melted the dmt into the coffee filter, or evaporated the dmt?
My second batch has a lot more ‘crystals’ in the glass. I won’t dry these with any heat at all. More patience.

I planned to evaporate the remaining solution on top of that radiator though, I’ll just have to keep an eye and turn it off when it’s nearly all evaporated I guess.
 
So I began searching specifically for how to dry, and read that drying on a coffee filter would likely allow the dmt to melt into the coffee filter. Shame as that’s how Noman tek describes to do it. I’ve scraped this batch out onto a plate, tilted it at an angle and put it on a window sill. Hope this batch stays!
 
So I’m a little disappointed…
I’ve tried three goes. Each time .05g. First time I think I was a bit worried about taking too much the first time, I didn’t want to pass out and drop the blowtorch… nothing really happened, I mustn’t have inhaled enough.
Second time I got a good couple of pulls off it, and had some nice closed eye visuals, but the whole time I was very lucid. When I opened my eyes, my walls and door looked super smooth like it was made of plastic. And once I opened my eyes, that kind of ended the trip, closing them again was nowhere near as vivid as before.
Third time I tried hard to get all the vapour I could, and again, some neat closed eye visuals, and same effect when I opened my eyes. This one I really can’t remember any of the visuals after though.

I wonder if my strong adhd has anything to do with it, as I’m a massive over thinker, and my brain went crazy thinking about stuff, I wonder if I’ll see this, what’s that, what’s coming next, will I see any entities etc etc, and then I kept trying to tell myself to stop thinking at which point stop thinking was just a repetitive thought that i struggled to stop.

I didn’t get any of the one with the universe type feeling that I was hoping for, just visuals. I’m too nervous to try more than .05g without a trip sitter with me, so I think I’ll leave it there probably. May try again some time in the future.
 
It sounds like you are on track. Getting millky hits and closed eye visuals is definitely a great start. (y)

You might consider trying a few different vaping/smoking methods. You could sandwich it in between some plant matter in a bowl, infuse it into plant matter to smoke in a pipe or vape in a dry herb vaporizer, try using a dab rig or pen, or look into something like e-mesh or vape juice.

Just experiment a little bit and try to appreciate each experience for what it is. The descriptions of ego death, unity states, and reality replacement are certainly interesting and intriguing, and you'll get there as you dial in your methods and techniques, but don't discount the early experiences and explorations in favor of the hype around the really far out experiences. There is a lot to be gained from all levels of the experience.

May your continued explorations be fruitful, and please do keep us posted. :cool:
 
Sir, this is just a safety suggestion, which can also reduce great anxiety. When you use DMT, you should clear all unfinished plans, as well as have enough personal space and free time, so that you dare to face the challenge of DMT, instead of being overly afraid of it. Yes, we should respect it, but not fear it.
 
Yes thanks guys. I want to find someone who can sit with me that I trust, that way I could feel safer taking a slightly heavier hit maybe. After getting used to it a bit more
 
Dreamer420 said:
Not very, a plug in oil filled radiator? Would I have melted the dmt into the coffee filter, or evaporated the dmt?
My second batch has a lot more ‘crystals’ in the glass. I won’t dry these with any heat at all. More patience.

I planned to evaporate the remaining solution on top of that radiator though, I’ll just have to keep an eye and turn it off when it’s nearly all evaporated I guess.
Click to expand...
This is a good illustration of why it's better to use airflow for evaporation rather than heat, in this particular situation.
 

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