Hi all, continuing on my journey to expand my consciousness and co existence with nature and place in the universe. I live in the south west of Australia, i have always been intreagued and followed a path of spiritual awareness and bettering myself as a human being. I have known about dmt for a long time and am only now feeling ready to make the jump and open my awareness further. My older brother has already been successful in an acacia extraction, but his dmt experiences seem to be uncontrolled and has created more fear for himself. I could just take the easy path and access the dmt from him, but I feel the need to personally gain this knowledge and begin a journey of my own. Sharing this journey with like minded spiritually aware and nature conscious people would be valuable and insightful.
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Hi from Western Australia.
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CAPTAIN HYPERSPACE
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Following your own path is definitely the way to go mate. Along the way you'll learn far more about 'everything' than you ever could from someone blabbing their knowledge to you. First hand experience is always the go. Living in Western Australia you are in an amazing place to begin your journey, with Australia's densest concentration of DMT containing plants right on your doorstep. Best wishes with your journey brother.
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Flinkman86
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Welcome brother!
Just wanted to say that it is definitely worth doing your research before you plan out your experience. Preparing for this adventure with a conscious mindset concerning set, setting and environment is key for success. Learning to create a sacred place of your own, will help you filter out any outside distractions. The less distractions the better!
As far as your brother experiencing fear, remember that fear itself is an illusion. It is a choice to react the way you do to anything in life. Love is definitely a will of yours that can aid you in any circumstance. I am not saying that the universe is not a hostile place, however the law of attraction stands true.
There are many wonderful articles and information within the wiki and forum of this website. This information can aid you and give you a better understanding of how to properly go about things. Use this information as a Tool, ask questions as you so please, most importantly it is you who will pass through the gateway.
My best advice is to fear nothing and surrender to the experience with love in your heart. Every experience, whether frightening, loving, or just plain out mind blowing is very important to "you". Remain humbled, do not over think things, do your best to remember
Safe travels my friend!
Just wanted to say that it is definitely worth doing your research before you plan out your experience. Preparing for this adventure with a conscious mindset concerning set, setting and environment is key for success. Learning to create a sacred place of your own, will help you filter out any outside distractions. The less distractions the better!
As far as your brother experiencing fear, remember that fear itself is an illusion. It is a choice to react the way you do to anything in life. Love is definitely a will of yours that can aid you in any circumstance. I am not saying that the universe is not a hostile place, however the law of attraction stands true.
There are many wonderful articles and information within the wiki and forum of this website. This information can aid you and give you a better understanding of how to properly go about things. Use this information as a Tool, ask questions as you so please, most importantly it is you who will pass through the gateway.
My best advice is to fear nothing and surrender to the experience with love in your heart. Every experience, whether frightening, loving, or just plain out mind blowing is very important to "you". Remain humbled, do not over think things, do your best to remember
Safe travels my friend!
Thank you flinkman.
I agree with you on all the aspects you mentioned. I am happy observing the local flora and enjoying the time spent in our natural environment. It will be a while before I put the knowledge that I have gained and yet to attain into practice, even thought the urge is great to jump in.
I agree with you on all the aspects you mentioned. I am happy observing the local flora and enjoying the time spent in our natural environment. It will be a while before I put the knowledge that I have gained and yet to attain into practice, even thought the urge is great to jump in.
shanedudddy2
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It's probably best to look for species which are common around a particular locale, especially ones who's characteristics are easily distinguishable.
Unless you are a botanical expert, identification of a random species found in a bush will be very difficult.
Even if the tree is successfully identified, the chances of it being active is very minimal.
Since you live in WA, i`d suggest looking for Acacia Acuminata.
Useful identification characteristics include:
- Length of the phyllode.
- Number/type of veins
- Shape of the tip of the phyllode.
- Width of the phyllode.
- Flowers
- Seeds
Flowers and Seeds are probably the best and easiest identification tool, but the more information that is obtained, the more accurate the identification.
All the best, hope I helped in some way.
Oh, one last thing, please use the twigs and phyllodes rather than stripping bark from the trunk.
Unless you are a botanical expert, identification of a random species found in a bush will be very difficult.
Even if the tree is successfully identified, the chances of it being active is very minimal.
Since you live in WA, i`d suggest looking for Acacia Acuminata.
Useful identification characteristics include:
- Length of the phyllode.
- Number/type of veins
- Shape of the tip of the phyllode.
- Width of the phyllode.
- Flowers
- Seeds
Flowers and Seeds are probably the best and easiest identification tool, but the more information that is obtained, the more accurate the identification.
All the best, hope I helped in some way.
Oh, one last thing, please use the twigs and phyllodes rather than stripping bark from the trunk.
Thanks for your input friend.
As the accuminata is located somewhat inland from the coast where I am located. Current circumstances is preventing me from that approach. However it is possible that different species have been spread by birds. Planted by people etc.
I posted my pics in the acacia Id thread, in the hope someone has seen a familiarity so I may find out what is close by with the aid of pictures and descriptions found online. Most of us aren't botanical experts and it is summer so no flowers and only random seed pods laying about identification is a lot harder for the untrained eye.
I assume there are many trained eyes here on psycoactive and non psycoactive species.
All one can do is ask and hope for an educated answer whether it be academic or local knowledge.
Thanks I will try to provide better samples for identification purposes.
As the accuminata is located somewhat inland from the coast where I am located. Current circumstances is preventing me from that approach. However it is possible that different species have been spread by birds. Planted by people etc.
I posted my pics in the acacia Id thread, in the hope someone has seen a familiarity so I may find out what is close by with the aid of pictures and descriptions found online. Most of us aren't botanical experts and it is summer so no flowers and only random seed pods laying about identification is a lot harder for the untrained eye.
I assume there are many trained eyes here on psycoactive and non psycoactive species.
All one can do is ask and hope for an educated answer whether it be academic or local knowledge.
Thanks I will try to provide better samples for identification purposes.
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Welcome to the Nexus!
What experience do you have with psychedelics or othr psychoactive substances so far?
Be well!
What experience do you have with psychedelics or othr psychoactive substances so far?
Be well!
Thank you endlessness
I have been predominantly been a cannabis smoker for about 20 years until a few years ago where I decided it just wasn't very productive to smoke habitually anymore. I have done a few so called trips as I was told, but no hallucinations so I suspect they were mainly meth based.
A little about me.
Life turns us in many directions through events that happen to us for a reason. But everything that happens is meant to happen whether it be good or bad. To see the good that can come out of the most desperate of situations. Some major events in my life has led me on a path to seek the truth about who we are, why are we here and where are we going.
I have gained a certain amount of insight through meditation, identifying the chakra energy centres in the body and using these energies to stabilise my emotions and not be controlled by them. I have also used it to help people as well. I spent 6 years in a dementia ward helping and caring for these forgotten souls to have some sort of quality of life. That was until my first wife died after giving birth to my daughter and had to raise her on my own. Now that's a trip that never ends but that is life.
Going within and finding hope and inner strength is ultimately the only way through such experiences.
This may sound a little jumbled and it is hard to express what I am trying to convey. I know that dmt is connected to the inner workings of the energy of all that is and spiritual awareness and is another experience that I must face at some point.
I have been predominantly been a cannabis smoker for about 20 years until a few years ago where I decided it just wasn't very productive to smoke habitually anymore. I have done a few so called trips as I was told, but no hallucinations so I suspect they were mainly meth based.
A little about me.
Life turns us in many directions through events that happen to us for a reason. But everything that happens is meant to happen whether it be good or bad. To see the good that can come out of the most desperate of situations. Some major events in my life has led me on a path to seek the truth about who we are, why are we here and where are we going.
I have gained a certain amount of insight through meditation, identifying the chakra energy centres in the body and using these energies to stabilise my emotions and not be controlled by them. I have also used it to help people as well. I spent 6 years in a dementia ward helping and caring for these forgotten souls to have some sort of quality of life. That was until my first wife died after giving birth to my daughter and had to raise her on my own. Now that's a trip that never ends but that is life.
Going within and finding hope and inner strength is ultimately the only way through such experiences.
This may sound a little jumbled and it is hard to express what I am trying to convey. I know that dmt is connected to the inner workings of the energy of all that is and spiritual awareness and is another experience that I must face at some point.
Ethnopiate
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Could it be? A fellow Westerner? 8)
I, too, am on a similar path.
Having worked in the oil and gas industry for a good few years I turned my attention to running my own property maintenance business but now, with the planet buckling under the weight of so many heavy footed humans, I have thrown aside all previous qualifications and ambitions in order to study Environmental Science and Sustainable Development, with a view to undo the damage I helped facilitate whilst working as part of the Gorgon project.
I have a long history of entheogen experiences but the spirit molecule has eluded me thus far! The last 9-9yrs I have steered away from most things aside from weed and sedatives, as I suffer anxiety/panic disorder from PTSD and manic depression. Having seen recent research and been part of a few clinical trials, I am now an avid student of mycology and ethnobotany. Nature holds the cure to all our ills, I believe, I have made significant progress as such and can't wait to share with others!
Being in the west, I am curious as to other sources for our precious molecule, as I understand phalaris aquatica (and arundinacea) and acacia acuminata are probably our sole means of obtaining such (most common anyway), but a comment above suggests I may not be looking broadly enough? (Captain Hyperspace) :?
Could anyone shed any light on what other options us Western folk have? I am strictly not interested in root or tree bark, twigs and phylodes seem to be quite acceptable and sustainable, whilst taking root bark or trunk bark does not sit well with me unless the tree has fallen. I do not believe in taking from the Earth with any permanence and have already planted 16 acuminata seedlings, but they will take over 5 years until they are ready for any form of effective use as I understand it.
I will post pictures of what I can identify locally in the next few days and would be keen to get some insight from those who have gone before as my 3 attempted extracts failed due to either a) wrong type of material b) the wrong tek for acuminata (I have tried STB and A/B) or c) impatience!
I am already thoroughly enjoying this journey, as I am learning, it's not all about the destination!
Peace to all and thank you for your time. :d
I, too, am on a similar path.
Having worked in the oil and gas industry for a good few years I turned my attention to running my own property maintenance business but now, with the planet buckling under the weight of so many heavy footed humans, I have thrown aside all previous qualifications and ambitions in order to study Environmental Science and Sustainable Development, with a view to undo the damage I helped facilitate whilst working as part of the Gorgon project.
I have a long history of entheogen experiences but the spirit molecule has eluded me thus far! The last 9-9yrs I have steered away from most things aside from weed and sedatives, as I suffer anxiety/panic disorder from PTSD and manic depression. Having seen recent research and been part of a few clinical trials, I am now an avid student of mycology and ethnobotany. Nature holds the cure to all our ills, I believe, I have made significant progress as such and can't wait to share with others!
Being in the west, I am curious as to other sources for our precious molecule, as I understand phalaris aquatica (and arundinacea) and acacia acuminata are probably our sole means of obtaining such (most common anyway), but a comment above suggests I may not be looking broadly enough? (Captain Hyperspace) :?
Could anyone shed any light on what other options us Western folk have? I am strictly not interested in root or tree bark, twigs and phylodes seem to be quite acceptable and sustainable, whilst taking root bark or trunk bark does not sit well with me unless the tree has fallen. I do not believe in taking from the Earth with any permanence and have already planted 16 acuminata seedlings, but they will take over 5 years until they are ready for any form of effective use as I understand it.
I will post pictures of what I can identify locally in the next few days and would be keen to get some insight from those who have gone before as my 3 attempted extracts failed due to either a) wrong type of material b) the wrong tek for acuminata (I have tried STB and A/B) or c) impatience!
I am already thoroughly enjoying this journey, as I am learning, it's not all about the destination!
Peace to all and thank you for your time. :d
shanedudddy2
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Unless things have changed in the last few months, Phalaris isn't really worth the effort.
I haven't tried extracting from Phalaris myself, but have had some intense vascular constriction with some stupid psychedelic experiments in the past (San Pedro and Rue o_0) and don't wish to roll any more dices.
You live in WA, from memory, there's a truck-load of recorded acuminata all over the place...unlike us folk is SA, who pretty much have to import bark, at least until acuminata seedlings mature.
I haven't tried extracting from Phalaris myself, but have had some intense vascular constriction with some stupid psychedelic experiments in the past (San Pedro and Rue o_0) and don't wish to roll any more dices.
You live in WA, from memory, there's a truck-load of recorded acuminata all over the place...unlike us folk is SA, who pretty much have to import bark, at least until acuminata seedlings mature.
Hi ethnopiate
Thanks for posting in my thread. I have accessed and extracted from the gifts of this state and believe me make sure your mind right. You can be all hippie and plant loving all you want, but if your head ain't straight with other aspects of your life your on a rocky path. This was my first lesson and I reakon it is not going to my last.
Thanks for posting in my thread. I have accessed and extracted from the gifts of this state and believe me make sure your mind right. You can be all hippie and plant loving all you want, but if your head ain't straight with other aspects of your life your on a rocky path. This was my first lesson and I reakon it is not going to my last.
Ethnopiate
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denyr1 - You are dead right there. A FOAF in the saame boat as I was had some hair raising experiences many moons ago and learnt his lesson, in hospital, and so did I as an observer! Thankfully over the last decade I have gotten back on track and can now re-explore regions previously left un-touched, with due caution and preparation of course. I recently was permitted an experience with this spice and had no problems at all except the usual, initial anxiety of trying something "new", which soon dissipated as I surrendered.
I am no longer depressed, I'm happy with my life and it's direction now and am definitely in the best space I have been in for a very long time and would like to look deeper into this molecule. I am far from hippy, but I do have a great deal of respect for nature and our ecosystem after seeing it decimated in the past.
Shame about the phalaris Shane, it looked quite promising and I have heard/read some good reports. Age of plant, time from cutting to extraction and method all affect the end result but from your experiences, I think I'll leave it alone! Cheers for the warning!
I see many many acacia's along our freeways here in WA and some others at random locations around the suburbs and I have included a couple of pictures that may assist. From most reports I have read, you have to travel a good 2-3hrs out of the city to find the right species but seeing what I have seen recently I believe acuminata has been used quite extensively as a tool for nitrogen fixing of overworked soils and as erosion stabilisation on embankments.
Is my understanding that acuminata phylodes and twigs aren't really viable until the plant has reached 5yrs of age a correct one?
I have read page upon page of information and I think in the end I just have to ask the question, get some ID's and hopefully be able to pass on the knowledge to others.
The first 2 pictures are of a younger tree, still greenish in skin colour, planted amongst eucalyptus. The last 2 are of an older tree but def not acuminata as it doesn't have the curved "hooks" at the tips of the phylodes common to that species and is JUST starting to flower.
Many thanks, I hope I can help fellow Sandgropers in their quests!
I am no longer depressed, I'm happy with my life and it's direction now and am definitely in the best space I have been in for a very long time and would like to look deeper into this molecule. I am far from hippy, but I do have a great deal of respect for nature and our ecosystem after seeing it decimated in the past.
Shame about the phalaris Shane, it looked quite promising and I have heard/read some good reports. Age of plant, time from cutting to extraction and method all affect the end result but from your experiences, I think I'll leave it alone! Cheers for the warning!
I see many many acacia's along our freeways here in WA and some others at random locations around the suburbs and I have included a couple of pictures that may assist. From most reports I have read, you have to travel a good 2-3hrs out of the city to find the right species but seeing what I have seen recently I believe acuminata has been used quite extensively as a tool for nitrogen fixing of overworked soils and as erosion stabilisation on embankments.
Is my understanding that acuminata phylodes and twigs aren't really viable until the plant has reached 5yrs of age a correct one?
I have read page upon page of information and I think in the end I just have to ask the question, get some ID's and hopefully be able to pass on the knowledge to others.
The first 2 pictures are of a younger tree, still greenish in skin colour, planted amongst eucalyptus. The last 2 are of an older tree but def not acuminata as it doesn't have the curved "hooks" at the tips of the phylodes common to that species and is JUST starting to flower.
Many thanks, I hope I can help fellow Sandgropers in their quests!
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Mate you are better off posting in the acacia identification and research threads with those pics, there is a lot of knowledgable people that can help with that sort of thing. Glad to hear that your first experience went ok. If your after something that's sustainable I wouldn't write phalaris off too soon I have mine next to my ipomea tricolor in buckets, hard work and patience still has it's place and can be much more rewarding. Keep at it with the accuminata it's right there and plentiful.
Ethnopiate
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Thanks for your input, I shall see what the experts can tell me about these ID's. I have been lurking and reading up for at least 4 months now and am glad to see some WA people one here too, I hope I can help them out with my queries too. I posted in this thread to try keep it local. Have you (or anyone else) had any success finding acuminata inside suburban limits? (ie. within 1/2hr drive from CBD?)
Na mate you won't find any accuminata without having to drive about an hr and a half inland from the city. You could be lucky though. I live about 40 mins south of Perth and it takes me 2 hrs hard ride on my zzr 1100 to get to my picking ground, it well worth it.
Ethnopiate
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Thanks again.
I am more hoping to be able to help identify and catalogue acacias within city limits that contain tryptamines as there are plenty of plant around but not a lot of ID info and alkaloid content relating to them, even searching the web proves fruitless unless I am missing something!
As I understand it, most of the light yellow to white-ish rod shaped flowering acacias (as opposed to the common yellow ball shaped flowers) are the more alk heavy ones.
I am about to start studying Enviro Science and Monitoring and want to make it part of my studies more for education and accurate ID than actually using the plant.
I'll see what help I can get from some of the other senior, well experienced members but there seem to be very few in WA! :-(
Cheers mate and all the best.
I am more hoping to be able to help identify and catalogue acacias within city limits that contain tryptamines as there are plenty of plant around but not a lot of ID info and alkaloid content relating to them, even searching the web proves fruitless unless I am missing something!
As I understand it, most of the light yellow to white-ish rod shaped flowering acacias (as opposed to the common yellow ball shaped flowers) are the more alk heavy ones.
I am about to start studying Enviro Science and Monitoring and want to make it part of my studies more for education and accurate ID than actually using the plant.
I'll see what help I can get from some of the other senior, well experienced members but there seem to be very few in WA! :-(
Cheers mate and all the best.
