Aequitas_x
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Hey everyone, I'm just wondering what the highest percentage yield is that can be predictably achieved. I've heard the number 2% a lot, but is that the highest you can get?
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Highest percent yield
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Percentage yield of what? Potassium in bananas? Gramine in phalaris? Atropine in datura?
What does `predictably achieved` mean? If you said yourself you heard a lot of one number, isnt that already a good indication of a common yield? Or are you not asking about common yields but highest (and probably rarer) yields of substance X in plant Y?
What does `predictably achieved` mean? If you said yourself you heard a lot of one number, isnt that already a good indication of a common yield? Or are you not asking about common yields but highest (and probably rarer) yields of substance X in plant Y?
Aequitas_x
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm curious about the highest predictable yield of DMT from any source. I'm not interested in the higher end of the spectrum that might happen by chance, but rather the highest yield that one can expect with repeatable results.
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From my knowledge, Mimosa hostilis, Acacia confusa and a couple of other acacias all have the highest reliable DMT yields we know of, around 1-2% .
You can check our wiki on DMT for more info on published analysis of other plants, or nen´s thread on acacia in the collaborative research subforum, for some more info.
You can check our wiki on DMT for more info on published analysis of other plants, or nen´s thread on acacia in the collaborative research subforum, for some more info.
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2% with Mimosa Hostilis can be easily achieved with practice.
Looking forward, check out Acacia acuminata var narrow phyllode or Acacia acuminata var small seed or Acacia burkittii (which is a very close relative of acuminata). Acuminatas are one of the most consistent Acacias according to nen888.
Plus, you can extract from the phyllodes (leaves) getting about 1.3% if I recall correctly. Absolutely no need to strip bark with acuminatas, just collect leaves!
Keep it classy, keep it sustainable,
Wearepeople
Looking forward, check out Acacia acuminata var narrow phyllode or Acacia acuminata var small seed or Acacia burkittii (which is a very close relative of acuminata). Acuminatas are one of the most consistent Acacias according to nen888.
Plus, you can extract from the phyllodes (leaves) getting about 1.3% if I recall correctly. Absolutely no need to strip bark with acuminatas, just collect leaves!
Keep it classy, keep it sustainable,
Wearepeople
Me too as far as I know the highest content of DMT is in MHRB or acacia, unless people know of other things and want to keep it a secret. Which I wouldn't disagree with them because if word gets out quickly and that whole substance gets illegal and then nobody can have it.
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I get 1.4% with bark and have seen IH get as high as 1.6%. When you have a lot of time and patience to let pulls sit for weeks and weeks, turning the jars a couple times a day your yield goes up and up.
1.6% took a couple months to complete.
1.6% took a couple months to complete.
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Pretty much. Taking the time for a good acidic soak, letting the base do its work over time is good. The longer the solvent sits in there the more it will saturate and pull. The first couple pulls can be done in a day or 2 but the final 3 pulls I take my time increasing time with each subsequent pull. The 5th pull In let sit for a few weeks to over a month.
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i suspect theres a relationship between highest yield and highest skill.
vineseeker said:
Something people rarely take into account also is yeild lost to transfer/inaccuracy. Such as not completely seperating all your np solvent out of base soup, or spilling alittle bit of np solvent. It might seem minor, but sometimes it can be a pretty large amount.
vineseeker said:
I suspect there is a relationship between highest yield and source material with the highest concentration of alkaloids. I've gotten anything from .7% to 2.1% from various batches of MHRB using the same techniques.
Let's be honest, DMT extraction isn't exactly rocket science and while it does take *some* skill you could probably teach a 10 year old to do it with complete competence. (I obviously don't support teaching kids to extract tryptamines, just making a point.)
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ive only performed 2 extractions. I did them with Acacia Confusa and on my second attempt I did the following to achieve what I understood as a decent yield:
Cybs Max ION tek 100g ACRB (No Freeze/Thaw)(Powdered):
- Pulled 6 times (100ml each pull)(heated naphtha to 115F in hot water bath)
- Just let naphtha evap.
- Scraped = 1.52g Light/Dark tan wax
=== Waited 7-10 days ===
- Pulled 6 times (100ml each pull)(heated naphtha to 115F in hot water bath)
- Just let naphtha evap.
- Scraped = 823mg Light/Dark brownish tan taffy/wax
Total Yield before Re-X Wash = 2.34%
Total Yield after Re-X Wash = 1.99%
End Product is white/light-yellow powdery/wax. No goo.
I understand the evap'ing of all that naphtha is a waste but im experimenting with the end results, freeze precip, evap, etc in order to see what kind of colors and consistencies I can get.
ive only performed 2 extractions. I did them with Acacia Confusa and on my second attempt I did the following to achieve what I understood as a decent yield:
Cybs Max ION tek 100g ACRB (No Freeze/Thaw)(Powdered):
- Pulled 6 times (100ml each pull)(heated naphtha to 115F in hot water bath)
- Just let naphtha evap.
- Scraped = 1.52g Light/Dark tan wax
=== Waited 7-10 days ===
- Pulled 6 times (100ml each pull)(heated naphtha to 115F in hot water bath)
- Just let naphtha evap.
- Scraped = 823mg Light/Dark brownish tan taffy/wax
Total Yield before Re-X Wash = 2.34%
Total Yield after Re-X Wash = 1.99%
End Product is white/light-yellow powdery/wax. No goo.
I understand the evap'ing of all that naphtha is a waste but im experimenting with the end results, freeze precip, evap, etc in order to see what kind of colors and consistencies I can get.
vineseeker
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depends but I dont consider wax as a yield.
I love those crystals and will produce nothing else8)
I love those crystals and will produce nothing else8)
vineseeker
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I have some left over from the re-x, so your saying you could smoke the waxy stuff which is a bit yellow and red etc.?
Yes, there is even DMT called jimjam or jungle spice that is reddish in color. the colors indicate other alk's and such in the mix but as i understand it.. even jimjam is like..90-95% nn-DMT ... correct me if im wrong prease!
so yes the white/tan/yellowish wax is totally smoalkable. though i personally wont smoke it unless its been washed once at least in a sodium-bicarb + water / naphtha solution.
so yes the white/tan/yellowish wax is totally smoalkable. though i personally wont smoke it unless its been washed once at least in a sodium-bicarb + water / naphtha solution.
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That's fine and dandy but you are wasting a lot of potentially good journey's just for appearance.vineseeker said:
"so yes the white/tan/yellowish wax is totally smoalkable. though i personally wont smoke it unless its been washed once at least in a sodium-bicarb + water / naphtha solution.
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Really, why?
Obviously do as you all see fit but I don't understand this current obsession with pure white dmt?
