Historical basis for the S.H.E.

[magickpencil]

In a nother thread, I read the following critique of the S.H.E.:

It's not about meeting people. The "others" will laugh and take you through their own weird folding terms.
I've learned that we are all connected though.
I have been able to send/receive bits of consciousness to love ones in meditation (with tobacco) and have always wondered how hyperspace ties in with all of that.
Before you blast off, you'll probably feel everyones excitement, maybe you'll get glimpses of their faces if you know them, but that's about all I've experienced.

On the other hand, all of the consciousness we weave here at the Nexus has created a tangled hub that weaves through our solar plexus'.
The others have discussed this with me. They are very happy we are doing what we are doing, here.

Having a day to focus this kind of work is what this is all about.
We will learn, experience, grow, and our planet will be illuminated with blooming souls as the "others" watch through bent wormholular dimensions.
A true Holiday. The earth will be glowing with activity, like it increasingly has been riding the crescendo.

Focus is a powerful tool. Beware of what you focus on, it's like your magnifying glass of consciousness...which can be programmed as a transport device.

Anyway, that's all I know.

I have recently been delving deeper into the vast world of spirituality, through and past what I see to be the mostly egocentric world of entheogenic spirituality and "neo-shamanism," and looking into more traditional, historical methodologies
If you can get past (or better yet understand and incorporate) some of the more esoteric terms this man uses, then I believe you will find he is talking about much the same thing as you all are here
He is talking to YOU

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Saleem Siddiqui is a Political Commentator, Public Speaker, Actor and Consultant. He is a trained Mediation and Conflict Resolution Specialist. He conducts sermons and training for various religious and Nonprofit organizations. Working with effort to increase Muslim and Islamic awareness in Communications, Public Relations (PR), Public Speaking, Political Strategy, Media, Marketing, and many other fields as they relate to the integration of Muslims in the United States of America and around the world.

Saleem Siddiqui has undergrad degrees in Arabic and religion from the Middle East and attended Law School in Houston,Texas. He has consulted with the FBI and testified on behalf of the District Attorney of Virginia on cases relating to National Security and “The War on Terror”.

Move this thread if needed
I'd be glad to engage further discussion about the relevance of this information if desired

 

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This guy is full of it (and himself). He's obviously been given the role of a public speaker, and I'm sure many [ignorant] folks love this kind of stuff...but to me it's incoherent because I can see through his mumbo jumbo.

It's propaganda at best.
To me he sounds like a teenage hippie traveling around for the first time, having really no idea what he's talking about.
This is like listening to any other religious priest out there.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but this isn't how we at the Nexus operate.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

This is a barely coherent babbling of stream of consciousness thoughts that for some reason the speaker feels the need to yell. His repeated religious posturing is uninspiring at best and repetitive and annoying at worst. He's clearly full of himself, which is the worst quality a public speaker can have, and while he is talking about people coming together all over the world at the same time to achieve spiritual whatever, this is but a tiny facet of what he is saying. Actually, i think he says brothers and sisters more than he says anything else. I'm not a Christian, so i could easily be wrong about this, but I think that this is who Matthew was talking about when he said "Beware of false prophets..."

This clip is religious drivel at best, heinously annoying at worst...Also, there are no "esoteric" terms that need understanding, just egocentric ones...

peace

 

[Kartikay]

hahahahahahah..ahaha.haha...haha... Add one more name to my "crazy" list.

My favorite is when he says that his brothers and sisters focus on the movement of the sun, rather than this "time" thing that we have been led to believe in. I'm all for time-bashing... but it IS based on the cycle of the sun. It's not some strange coincidence that the sun does the same thing every 24 hours.

 

[1664]

hahahahahahah..ahaha.haha...haha... Add one more name to my "crazy" list.

My favorite is when he says that his brothers and sisters focus on the movement of the sun, rather than this "time" thing that we have been led to believe in. I'm all for time-bashing... but it IS based on the cycle of the sun. It's not some strange coincidence that the sun does the same thing every 24 hours.

I know what you mean, but it's the Earth that does the same thing every 24 hours, not the Sun.
:lol:

 

[idtravlr]

The S.H.E. was proposed as, and still primarily is, a scientific experiment designed to attempt to answer some of the questions we have about various aspects Hyperspace. It has NOTHING to do with religion, despite the fact that it's nature does understandably create a sense of camaraderie amongst the participants. Why you say he is speaking to us is beyond me...

This guy is probably some trustafarian with WAY too much time on his hands. He is freakin' annoying for sure!

Peace,
-idt

 

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trustafarian

This word is HILARIOUS!:lol:

 

[Virola78]

I'd be glad to engage further discussion about the relevance of this information if desired

Pls do.
Because i really do not understand what this man is talking about. Actualy the idea of house, that you quoted, is making much more sense to me.
Seems to me you are just doing your little egocentric 1 talk here. Well, some other beat you to it many years back :?
Or are you not here to preach?

 

[Kartikay]

haha, way to call him out, Virola78. I'm with you, but I'll reserve final judgement for when he responds. He hasn't really tried to force anything down our throats yet.

and touché, 1664 but yeah, you know what I mean.

 

[magickpencil]

Hey all, thanks for the consideration!

The DMT-Nexus wiki page for the S.H.E. states that "[t]he users expected to discover if they would be able to make contact with each other in 'hyperspace', by focusing on a specific place and having ways to distinguish themselves during the event such as with glyphs and catchphrases that they would expect other members to see during their corresponding experiences"
My understanding, based on this description, is that the S.H.E. is about meeting people in Hyperspace
According to House, however, "t's not about meeting people"
House says that the S.H.E. is about "focus[ing] 'this kind of work,'" but does not apparently describe what "this work" is
Through your responses, I have gleaned that "this work" is Hyperspace cartography; a systematic cataloging of the mutually-agreed-upon phenomenon of the N,N-DMT experience
You compile this information in the Hyperspace Lexicon
I would reason that the Koran, or the Bible, or the Talmud, etc., are all attempts at doing the exact same thing

 

[Kartikay]

magickpencil, the site hasn't really been updated, but you wouldn't be wrong to assume what you've said based on what is written there. It was and still is a pseudo-science experiment, but there hasn't really been any results. It's more of a community-building exercise now.

 

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"The Koran, The bible, and the Talmud COMBINED have NOTHING on the DMT-Nexus." - unattested
Good day.

 

[Kartikay]

"The Koran, The bible, and the Talmud COMBINED have NOTHING on the DMT-Nexus." - unattested
Good day.

Yeah they all end up failing because they don't tell us to take the Sacraments. Since they don't, they must have different goals in mind. I'm not convinced of any other reliable method to achieving the states of consciousness that the Sacraments provide.

 

[magickpencil]

It's more of a community-building exercise now.

A community for people who have smoked DMT?, or a community for those who are interested in the truth of Hyperspace?, or what?
What is the point of building a vocabulary for the DMT experience?
Are you merely giving a name to various sensory hallucinations?
At worst, this will start limiting individuals' experiences to what has been agreed upon to exist in Hyperspace
It seems you are trying to create a concrete world within the amorphous reality of transcendent experience
Or are you striving to get at the reality behind what you have described?

 

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A community for people who have smoked DMT?, or a community for those who are interested in the truth of Hyperspace?, or what?

The truth of hyperspace is instantly revealed when one absorbs the neurotransmission.
We are the ones who've been, and are.

What is the point of building a vocabulary for the DMT experience?
Are you merely giving a name to various sensory hallucinations?

Hyperspace is not a sensory hallucination.
It seems to be the scaffolding of consciousness that holds this universe, as well as all of it's beings, together.
We are describing it with the best of our ability because we feel inclined to do so.

At worst, this will start limiting individuals' experiences to what has been agreed to exist in Hyperspace
Or are you striving to get at the reality behind what you have described?

I really don't believe that.
Hyperspace will completely destroy all prior notions you had of it once you get direct experience.
Our words are a reflection of it. [all.is.reflection]
This is how we communicate digitally, it flows forth from the soul, that has been touched by the divine.

Hyperspace is ALWAYS behind EVERYTHING we describe, and do, and are.
We are already behind and beyond this language.
This is our communications portal.
You don't like the things we have to say? You can chit chat with mr. trustafarian.
Because I, for one, love nothing more than discussing the possibilities with my brothers and sisters.

It seems you are trying to create a concrete world within the amorphous reality of transcendent experience

If that's what you want to believe...be my guest. We seem to have different perspectives.

Good day.

 

[Kartikay]

I sense some hostility. No matter.

A community for people who have smoked DMT?, or a community for those who are interested in the truth of Hyperspace?, or what?

I'm talking about the community that is the DMT-Nexus. More specifically, for the people who decide to take part in SHE. If you take part in SHE or lurk the Nexus, then welcome to the community. I'm not specifying who is in and out. Its just us, whoever we may be.

What is the point of building a vocabulary for the DMT experience?

It helps us to explain the phenomena that we experience in our trips.

Are you merely giving a name to various sensory hallucinations?

Sensory, psychological, spiritual, you name it. We don't leave anything out.

At worst, this will start limiting individuals' experiences to what has been agreed to exist in Hyperspace

If that was what we did, i would agree with you. But it isn't, so don't worry.

Or are you striving to get at the reality behind what you have described?

Yes, i think. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, but that seems accurate.

It seems you are trying to create a concrete world within the amorphous reality of transcendent experience

There might be some people who are. I think hyperspace is probably too big, and probably doesn't conform to the laws of the "concrete world."

 

[magickpencil]

Honestly I don't agree with about any thing that Siddiqui says
One point that he made, however, really piqued my interest: one third of the world (Islam) agrees upon a reality more real than our consensus reality
Every day, five times a day, they synchronize their transcendent experience (prayer)
They synchronize their assertion that physical reality is merely the manifestation of a greater reality
Like House says, "[f]ocus is a powerful tool"
It's very egotistical to dismiss this on the basis that their technique is not as good, not as powerful as yours

I'm not trying to argue w any one, or prove any one wrong
I am just trying to engage in discussion to every one's benefit and increased understanding, especially including my own

 

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They're praying their confusions + faith into the unknown in this physical reality.
Sure, they believe in it, but what experience do they have other than bowing in unison?

We're doing a different kind of work here.
We are working directly with this alien technology that we stem from.
We are bypassing this every day reality and blooming into the All.

There's a difference.

This is the updated version.

 

[magickpencil]

We're doing a different kind of work here.
We are working directly with this alien technology that we stem from.
We are bypassing this every day reality and blooming into the All.

OK, so now I know your position: N,N-DMT is the only way to truly realize the true nature of the universe
I am interested in the opinions of others as well, perhaps those a little less closed minded

 

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OK, so now I know your position: N,N-DMT is the only way to truly realize the true nature of the universe
I am interested in the opinions of others as well, perhaps those a little less closed minded

Haha, that isn't what I said at all. :roll:

This is all the "true nature" of the universe.

There's just certain methods to peel back certain layers.