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director of sound

director of sound

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ill be trying this one again on a larger batch when my bark gets in and throw a quick pic tek up for it. like me i know a few of you probally have a bunch of slightly yellow 'spent' naptha laying around that wont precip anything any more. it is a simple process that will greatly extend your yield and give you something very special, allmost sacred. this stuff is honeyspice as i call it. its quite possably DMT-N-Oxide and mabey a few mystery alkaloids carried by mimosa. what results from this literaly 5 min process is a viscous yellow honey like syrup that smells of roses and lilacs. very smooth smoking and billows with thick white vapor when used. its power is on the magnatude of putting you in candyland every time. and the best part as most of you dont even know that you allready have a few grams of it and just need 5 min to sit down and pull it out of your 'spent' naptha. so go out and get yourself a bottle of HEET (or just regular methanol from wherever) and pour about 1 cup of methanol into each half gallon of 'spent' naptha you have and shake the hell out of it. you will see all the color go into the methanol and the naptha will be clean and clear again (use it on your next extraction). now throw the methanol in a dish and set your fan on it to evap (dont use heat) you will end up with a bunch of honeyspice. load it up and try it out. a small drop of it will go a long way. i know you wont be dissapointed. below is a trip report i posted at myco on it a while ago. one thing i should tell you guys is be careful, this stuff is very powerful. if you were to smoke an ammount equivelant to your normal white spice dose i cant imagine where you would go...

Peace
DoS



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mabey i should have resized the pics a little...
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The Traveler
 
yea its probally missed by many when they do that 4th or 5th pull and nothing freeze precips they just toss it or set it aside. there are still goodies in that naptha and i cant wait to see what will be in the naptha from 2-3kg worth of extractions. i got roughly 200mg or so from the naptha used for a 4th pull on 100g of bark. so there could be a few more grams to pull from 1kg. i havent tried re extracting with the cleaned naptha from making the honey spice but if it yellows again there could be even more in the bark. i am strictally guessing that based on potency of this (smoked a drop the size of the 'O' in explorations on the nexus header) that it is most likely N-oxide the could be converted into regular DMT through the zinc metal reduction under acidic conditions. i like it the way it is though, such a beautiful experience every time. it dosent rocket you into the colored room before you break through you just skip that and the patterns are slower moving but more complex. it even gives you a devine feeling of something sacred. and the clarity of the visions is unbeliveable! half the time with normal spice i can make out people or entities or areas made up of the paterns and colors but this stuff you are accually there and 'they' are clear as day standing infront of you. in one of my recent experiences with the very last bit of it i was massaged (well my soul was) by what looked liek the myan gods Quetzalcoatl, Ah Puch, Ix Chel and Akhushtal. it was so beautiful and serene that i didnt want it to end and held on to the vision with all i could untill Ah Puch whispered to Quetzalcoatl and they left along with Ix Chel. i was left with Akhushatal and she explaned to me that it was very special that i was brougt to where i was but now it was time for me to be reborn into the world i came from. she told me that what i found, this nectar was very special and should be respected as a sacrament and not a toy. has to be one of the most humbeling experiences i have had to date.

Peace
DoS
 
Sounds very interesting. The only thing that troubles me is if the methanol is pulling impurities out of the naptha...by no means is this a criticism just an observational question.
 
hey director of sound, this is an awesome find. also the visionary aspects you described sound wonderful. i have a couple questions. first one's the same that OpeningPandorasBox posed
director of sound said:
so go out and get yourself a bottle of HEET (or just regular methanol from wherever) and pour about 1 cup of methanol into each half gallon of 'spent' naptha you have and shake the hell out of it. you will see all the color go into the methanol and the naptha will be clean and clear again
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1) if the naptha turns clear then that means that the impurities and oils transfer to the methanol thus ending up in the final product.
2) What is the recommended dosage? "one drop" can have significant variations so could you clear that up for me.
3) Is this possible with used limonene/xylene and other solvents as well..?

thanks a lot for this thread. i will definitely give this one a try sometime:d
 
Phantastica said:
hey director of sound, this is an awesome find. also the visionary aspects you described sound wonderful. i have a couple questions. first one's the same that OpeningPandorasBox posed
director of sound said:
so go out and get yourself a bottle of HEET (or just regular methanol from wherever) and pour about 1 cup of methanol into each half gallon of 'spent' naptha you have and shake the hell out of it. you will see all the color go into the methanol and the naptha will be clean and clear again
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1) if the naptha turns clear then that means that the impurities and oils transfer to the methanol thus ending up in the final product.
2) What is the recommended dosage? "one drop" can have significant variations so could you clear that up for me.
3) Is this possible with used limonene/xylene and other solvents as well..?

thanks a lot for this thread. i will definitely give this one a try sometime:d
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1.) it is possable that these 'oils' we talk about are dmt-n-oxidxe or the beta carbolines present in the bark. if it is oils and impuritied they are good ones as it sends me off to hyperspace.

2.) as for the dose id recomend that one starts with a drop the size of the head on a map pin( http://www.internet-stationers.co.uk/Shop/istationers_shop/images/WS20001.jpg )

3.) it could work with d-limo or xylene but i havent tried it.
 
wow this post is really screwing up the forum template.

you know you can EDIT and change the size of those..

Nice job.. looks like I might have to try this.
 
director of sound said:
1.) it is possable that these 'oils' we talk about are dmt-n-oxidxe or the beta carbolines present in the bark. if it is oils and impuritied they are good ones as it sends me off to hyperspace.

2.) as for the dose id recomend that one starts with a drop the size of the head on a map pin( http://www.internet-stationers.co.uk/Shop/istationers_shop/images/WS20001.jpg )

3.) it could work with d-limo or xylene but i havent tried it.
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alrite thanks for the info director:d
1) yup, as long as it gets the job done right
2) sounds like a fatty drop
3) i have some used limo, but kinda broke, so i'll have to buy the HEET some other time. maybe someone else can try this out, and post the results. i would assume it should work just fine though.
oh, and please edit the pics so the template can be fixed. it makes browsing through the thread so much easier and faster
 
there we go, resized. they look better smaller too. btw HEET only costs a few bucks, im sure you could scrounge up enough change to buy it. also laquer thinner is methanol too. im sure many alcohold would work, you could probally use everclear but HEET is still cheaper.
 
^yay! i like the pictures much better now! before my mind had to integrate the pictures in segments as i scrolled up/down/right/left lol. just checked the prices for HEET on google shopping. its a lot cheaper than i expected so i'm gonna give this a try sometime soon. thanks again:p
 
i will definently have to post an update when i extract my 2kg ill be ordering soon. gonna do a variation combining the cake tek with A/B (just bringing it down to a syrup rather than a solid) coupled with a few regular naptha pulls then finishing with 50/50 xylene and diethyl ether for the jungle so kinda a shaggy A/B cake. ill throw some methanol through both and see what happens i figure evaping the methanol will not stink up my place as much as the xylene would and might even evap cleaner. as for the naptha pulls all will be combined and evaped to the point of saturation (while warm) before the freeze precip and whats left in the yellow naptha after i filter out the xtals will yield the honeyspice. ill rex with benzene and chloroform (mabey even some chromatography...). looking at atleast 35g+ of white snow from the first precip and mabey 3-5g less after the rex. never pulled jungle before so i have no idea what the yield from 2kg would be. and BTW trichloroacetone is amazing (better than bestine) for taking the yellow out of STB spice. trichloroacetone is a byproduct of making chloroform through the haloform rxn. might have to give ardrinuo dunax (sp.?) as there are several acres by my place that i could harvest several (possably 100's) kg's if i wanted to.
 
director of sound said:
i will definently have to post an update when i extract my 2kg ill be ordering soon. gonna do a variation combining the cake tek with A/B (just bringing it down to a syrup rather than a solid) coupled with a few regular naptha pulls then finishing with 50/50 xylene and diethyl ether for the jungle so kinda a shaggy A/B cake. ill throw some methanol through both and see what happens i figure evaping the methanol will not stink up my place as much as the xylene would and might even evap cleaner. as for the naptha pulls all will be combined and evaped to the point of saturation (while warm) before the freeze precip and whats left in the yellow naptha after i filter out the xtals will yield the honeyspice. ill rex with benzene and chloroform (mabey even some chromatography...). looking at atleast 35g+ of white snow from the first precip and mabey 3-5g less after the rex. never pulled jungle before so i have no idea what the yield from 2kg would be. and BTW trichloroacetone is amazing (better than bestine) for taking the yellow out of STB spice. trichloroacetone is a byproduct of making chloroform through the haloform rxn. might have to give ardrinuo dunax (sp.?) as there are several acres by my place that i could harvest several (possably 100's) kg's if i wanted to.
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good luck, and also paragraphs. The cake method is rather idiosyncratic, be sure to post your experience.
 
hey director can you specify your smoking technique used with this. do you just let the drop sink into a copper mesh and apply heat and smoke just like pure white spice?
 
this is rad...
SWIM assumes the HEET/methenol forms a layer on top of the naptha? just awesome...
 
the HEET will form the bottom layer in the mix. as for smoking i chased the dragon off a little foil 'bowl' i made. got glass machine that i use now.
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