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How DMT is formed in the plants?
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All through the nutrients in the ground: Nitrogen, Phosphorus, & Potassium. It's not necessarily how old the plant is, it's the genetics passed from the parent.
The process of photosynthesis is to convert light into energy so that the plant can use it for foliage and/or root growth. So Yes and No, chemical reactions occurs after the plant store energy for use. But the chemical process is done through photosynthesis.
A young seedling with a few set of leaves is not going to photosynthesize as well as a mature tree/bush with tons of branching and foliage. Best I can describe it.
Think about when you were a kid. Did you eat as much as you do now? As a grown adult your body needs more nutrients to maintain health. As you grow the more energy you need. Same as a plant. The bigger, the more foliage it needs to photosynthesize to maintain its health. Hence, chemical reaction process through photosynthesis.
The process of photosynthesis is to convert light into energy so that the plant can use it for foliage and/or root growth. So Yes and No, chemical reactions occurs after the plant store energy for use. But the chemical process is done through photosynthesis.
A young seedling with a few set of leaves is not going to photosynthesize as well as a mature tree/bush with tons of branching and foliage. Best I can describe it.
Think about when you were a kid. Did you eat as much as you do now? As a grown adult your body needs more nutrients to maintain health. As you grow the more energy you need. Same as a plant. The bigger, the more foliage it needs to photosynthesize to maintain its health. Hence, chemical reaction process through photosynthesis.
Ulim
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For more info go look up Shikimate pathway and Shikimic acid on Wikipedia.
Note that this is only one of the possible ways.
Usually many ways end up at L-tryptophane but the last step is the one that differs dmt containing from non dmt plants. :d
Of course all those reactions need energy because they need special enzymes and proteines. You(animals) and plants both use ATP for that. Plants can make ATP in different ways. We burn sugar and fats. Plant can use photosynthesis and the sugar made from photosynthesis to make ATP. Plants have mitochondria too that can burn sugar just like we do.
For more info go look up Shikimate pathway and Shikimic acid on Wikipedia.
Note that this is only one of the possible ways.
Usually many ways end up at L-tryptophane but the last step is the one that differs dmt containing from non dmt plants. :d
Of course all those reactions need energy because they need special enzymes and proteines. You(animals) and plants both use ATP for that. Plants can make ATP in different ways. We burn sugar and fats. Plant can use photosynthesis and the sugar made from photosynthesis to make ATP. Plants have mitochondria too that can burn sugar just like we do.
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Legarto Rey
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DMT and its indole family of compounds are indeed synthesized by plants. Some of their elucidated functions include stabilization and appropriate spatial conformation of proteins, particularly enzymes, assisting them in their capacity to modify their three dimensional structure(allosterism) as they bind and unbind from their substrates. Indoles can also function in a hormonal capacity. Additionally they are anti-oxidants that may scavenge unpaired reactive oxygen radicals that can be damaging to proteins and nucleic acids(RNA, DNA).
These fascinating compounds are most definitively not "just present". They are synthesized "intentionally" through complex metabolic pathways catalyzed by enzymes and co-enzymes driven by liberating energy stored in high energy phosphate bonds that are "created" directly through photo-phosphorylation or indirectly using stored substrate(carbohydrates).
Peace
These fascinating compounds are most definitively not "just present". They are synthesized "intentionally" through complex metabolic pathways catalyzed by enzymes and co-enzymes driven by liberating energy stored in high energy phosphate bonds that are "created" directly through photo-phosphorylation or indirectly using stored substrate(carbohydrates).
Peace
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
ulim hit it dead on...and even covered far more than I would have thought to.
Tryptophan is decarboxalated (AADC), then it's amine nitrogen is methylated twice (SAM which becomes SAH as it donates its methyl group; indole amine methyl transferase) giving DMT.
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Tryptophan is decarboxalated (AADC), then it's amine nitrogen is methylated twice (SAM which becomes SAH as it donates its methyl group; indole amine methyl transferase) giving DMT.
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Legarto Rey
Rising Star
This thread brings to mind the fruitful debate re, abiogenesis and teleology in nucleotide informed LIFE on planet Earth. This is a pregnant topic.
The reductionist, consciousness as emergent(from matter) myth, begs the question. A huge body of "objective" evidence supports a non-local apperception of sentience by Earthly life forms.
The capacity for EXCEEDINGLY informed molecular structure/function of biota, over expansive time references(billions of years), on an obviously typical solar/planetary reference frame in a fairly typical galactic vortex, using material ubiquitously flung and floating through the cosmos, demonstrates a "fall into complexity" T McKenna was so fond of yarning over.
Deep in the billows of a plant(our terrestrial brethren)induced, reality shaking, mystic tempest, one is gifted sacred gnosis. The overwhelming gestalt is profoundly UNITIVE. The laughingly obvious, often forgotten, sensibility that we are cosmic excrescences, allowed a space/time reference frame through which to flux, is glaringly manifest. Additionally, the giftedness of this unfoldment, delivered, MOMENT TO MOMENT, by the Source is self evident. The grandeur of IT humbles the spirit and engenders DNA deep, self-effacing supplication.
Ain't it grand! Thank heavens for the catalysts.
Peace
The reductionist, consciousness as emergent(from matter) myth, begs the question. A huge body of "objective" evidence supports a non-local apperception of sentience by Earthly life forms.
The capacity for EXCEEDINGLY informed molecular structure/function of biota, over expansive time references(billions of years), on an obviously typical solar/planetary reference frame in a fairly typical galactic vortex, using material ubiquitously flung and floating through the cosmos, demonstrates a "fall into complexity" T McKenna was so fond of yarning over.
Deep in the billows of a plant(our terrestrial brethren)induced, reality shaking, mystic tempest, one is gifted sacred gnosis. The overwhelming gestalt is profoundly UNITIVE. The laughingly obvious, often forgotten, sensibility that we are cosmic excrescences, allowed a space/time reference frame through which to flux, is glaringly manifest. Additionally, the giftedness of this unfoldment, delivered, MOMENT TO MOMENT, by the Source is self evident. The grandeur of IT humbles the spirit and engenders DNA deep, self-effacing supplication.
Ain't it grand! Thank heavens for the catalysts.
Peace