Does anybody here have an explanation for the fact that many people react so differently on LSA-seeds. I don't believe there is any other psychedelic that causes such extremely negative reactions in so many people and for many people it doesn't seem to do anything at all.
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how LSA is different for everybody.
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Agent Madhatter
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Different seeds, different amounts of LSA.
Different bodies, different effects.
Different bodies, different effects.
I dunno but the first time I had morning glories I ate 150 seeds in water blended up..I drank it all and ate the seeds left in the cup and I was completely blown away. I had full closed eye visions of eqyptian looking pyramids and collidascopes made of my own face, rows of eyes etc..the only problem was some leg cramping comming up, and anxiety due to excessive cannabis smoking..
tried again with about 100 seeds from fred meyers that I bought while staying with an ex g/f in oregon..but I only drank the tea and did not eat the seeds..and nothing.
HBWR worked sort of, but the only time I ever really got LSA to work was the first time, but it was powerful..easily comparable to LSD. I had not yet tied LSD and was told that morning glories could not compare..so was surprised to find it that visual..more so than any of my LSD experiences.
tried again with about 100 seeds from fred meyers that I bought while staying with an ex g/f in oregon..but I only drank the tea and did not eat the seeds..and nothing.
HBWR worked sort of, but the only time I ever really got LSA to work was the first time, but it was powerful..easily comparable to LSD. I had not yet tied LSD and was told that morning glories could not compare..so was surprised to find it that visual..more so than any of my LSD experiences.
69ron
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There are many reasons for this.
I think the main reason is bad quality seeds, and in many cases incorrectly identified inactive seeds often are sold.
With HBWR, there are some strains which are inactive which commonly get sold by entheogen suppliers by mistake. Argyreia nervosa var. nervosa is the potent strain. Argyreia nervosa var speciosa is inactive.
The other main reason is improper dosage. SWIM is very experienced with HBWR, and has been lucky enough to never get the inactive variety so far. For SWIM, it’s typical for 1 seed to be enough for effects. But his brother needs 4 seeds. This is of the same batch of seeds. He always needs 4 times as much as SWIM needs.
Another reason is improper preparation. If you swallow the whole seeds as is, they do not get digested and pass through your body and do almost nothing. They need to be ground. It’s best to do an extraction on them.
Another reason is heat. If the seeds are exposed to excessive heat, they will be inactive.
Another reason is age. If the seeds are very old, all the LSH is gone, and only LSA and a few other alkaloids remain. LSA is not really a hallucinogen. If you take LSA without LSH in the mix, all it really does is make you feel lethargic, sleepy, etc., because LSA is primarily a sedative. But when mixed with small amounts of LSH, LSA takes on strong psychedelic qualities, but is still very sedating.
Another reason is possibly chlorine. I think it might be possible that chlorinated water destroys LSH and renders the seeds inactive if they are extracted with it. I’m not sure about this though.
I think the main reason is bad quality seeds, and in many cases incorrectly identified inactive seeds often are sold.
With HBWR, there are some strains which are inactive which commonly get sold by entheogen suppliers by mistake. Argyreia nervosa var. nervosa is the potent strain. Argyreia nervosa var speciosa is inactive.
The other main reason is improper dosage. SWIM is very experienced with HBWR, and has been lucky enough to never get the inactive variety so far. For SWIM, it’s typical for 1 seed to be enough for effects. But his brother needs 4 seeds. This is of the same batch of seeds. He always needs 4 times as much as SWIM needs.
Another reason is improper preparation. If you swallow the whole seeds as is, they do not get digested and pass through your body and do almost nothing. They need to be ground. It’s best to do an extraction on them.
Another reason is heat. If the seeds are exposed to excessive heat, they will be inactive.
Another reason is age. If the seeds are very old, all the LSH is gone, and only LSA and a few other alkaloids remain. LSA is not really a hallucinogen. If you take LSA without LSH in the mix, all it really does is make you feel lethargic, sleepy, etc., because LSA is primarily a sedative. But when mixed with small amounts of LSH, LSA takes on strong psychedelic qualities, but is still very sedating.
Another reason is possibly chlorine. I think it might be possible that chlorinated water destroys LSH and renders the seeds inactive if they are extracted with it. I’m not sure about this though.