How to "combat" malevolent entities in hyperspace?

[spacexplorer]

It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool

Who can overcome love...

Well if you're 100% love all the time then no one. Unfortunately that is extremely rare. You might feel it during the peak but during the come up or comedown or anytime before or after when you're not radiating pure love you can be easily overcome unless you're some type of Buddha character.

It is always me, I am love when I am sober, during the coming up, peak, coming down, afterglow, .. and so on, I am now. All I do is to be love/light/whatever myself, unconditioned. I love the darkest depth of my creation and I am "enlightening" every tiny corner of this realm, I am hyperspace. I welcome all lifeforms of my omiverse (I just read this phrase yesterday and find it really appropriate to me) all the gods, demons, what ever come to experience me.

I am limitless.

tseuq

@spacexplorer; Do you like to turn your "you"s in "I"s. All you can tell is about yourself, I appreciate you.

Yes that's true but couldn't the same be said of anyone? Even the entities are made of pure love if pure love is everything. So what is actually going on here? Even though you are pure love couldn't someone still attack you? If they actually exist in another dimension then there attacks are just as real as a physical attack. And even if they don't attack you, couldn't they use other creatures as their minions? I just really wonder about this guy who claims thousands of breakthroughs but still needs to call on angelic beings and the like, aren't these angelic beings just a part of himself? Why does he need the outside help of these beings if the same forces can be found within him? Or are these just external manifestations of his inner power and he just perceives them as external? Really wish he was around to answer some of these things.

I guess it's true all you can tell is about yourself when I say you I mean both of us (royal you bad grammar) but I can change it to I if you want (I want?)

And @The post above, what do you think hyperspace fool is talking about then? Does he really need to call on the heavenly forces of nature or would a simple beam of love or song suffice?

 

[tseuq]

Yes that's true but couldn't the same be said of anyone? Even the entities are made of pure love if pure love is everything. So what is actually going on here? Even though you are pure love couldn't someone still attack you? If they actually exist in another dimension then there attacks are just as real as a physical attack. And even if they don't attack you, couldn't they use other creatures as their minions?

I welcome everyone /-thing in my house who/that comes to meet me. Gods, demons, friends, insects, aliens, light, darkness, sorrow, happiness, psychosis, fear, love, no difference, I am here, I am death and birth, I am coexistence, I am.

I just really wonder about this guy who claims thousands of breakthroughs but still needs to call on angelic beings and the like, aren't these angelic beings just a part of himself? Why does he need the outside help of these beings if the same forces can be found within him? Or are these just external manifestations of his inner power and he just perceives them as external? Really wish he was around to answer some of these things.

To me, the only real importance between external/internal attributions lies in the state of awareness. When I call on angels and I am unaware of them as projections of myself, I attribute and experience myself as vicitm, always depending on the help of others. Like a jellyfish which cannot navigate on its own and always depends on the current of the ocean.
Everything I do, everything I empower, leads to something, I am connected, I act central and think global.

Nevertheless to me internal = external = I am = One.

Kind reagards, tseuq

 

[Infectedstyle]

Picture his end though. He said something about being kidnapped and having demons fly around in a caravan that both can see. I wonder if you will sing songs and try to squirt lovebeams like the cuddlebears to defeat the enemy. Or doesn't something like Archangel Michael fallig from the sky with his sword to cut all the bad guys seem more of a logical progression of events in this particular scenario..

 

[tseuq]

Picture his end though. He said something about being kidnapped and having demons fly around in a caravan that both can see. I wonder if you will sing songs and try to squirt lovebeams like the cuddlebears to defeat the enemy.

This sounds like fun to me. :d

tseuq

 

[spacexplorer]

Yes that's true but couldn't the same be said of anyone? Even the entities are made of pure love if pure love is everything. So what is actually going on here? Even though you are pure love couldn't someone still attack you? If they actually exist in another dimension then there attacks are just as real as a physical attack. And even if they don't attack you, couldn't they use other creatures as their minions?

I welcome everyone /-thing in my house who/that comes to meet me. Gods, demons, friends, insects, aliens, light, darkness, sorrow, happiness, psychosis, fear, love, no difference, I am here, I am death and birth, I am coexistence, I am.

I just really wonder about this guy who claims thousands of breakthroughs but still needs to call on angelic beings and the like, aren't these angelic beings just a part of himself? Why does he need the outside help of these beings if the same forces can be found within him? Or are these just external manifestations of his inner power and he just perceives them as external? Really wish he was around to answer some of these things.

To me, the only real importance between external/internal attributions lies in the state of awareness. When I call on angels and I am unaware of them as projections of myself, I attribute and experience myself as vicitm, always depending on the help of others. Like a jellyfish which cannot navigate on its own and always depends on the current of the ocean.
Everything I do, everything I empower, leads to something, I am connected, I act central and think global.

Nevertheless to me internal = external = I am = One.

Kind reagards, tseuq

Don't you think that's going a little too far? Are you also welcoming rapists and murderers and malevolent entities that wish you harm into your space because your "pure love"? Hippies did the pure love thing too...police still shot them. Jesus still got killed so did John Lennon and others who proclaimed "pure love". You know pure love doesn't seem to protect you? Are you fully willing to be killed by what you invite in at all times?

 

[○]

Isn't it possible that you yourself may be going a little too far spacexplorer when you're equating malevolent entities in a temporary experience in an altered state of consciousness to rapists and murderers of everyday consensus reality?

The fact is that if you have a really difficult experience with a malevolent entity or entities, and are receiving those various moments in the experience as 'bad, evil, draining, negative, malevolent, whatever', that they are typically short lived and transform into something completely opposite more times than not; and if they don't during the experience - their power over you is short lived after the experience subsides. And keep in mind (and i've seen many of your posts that seem to attribute negative connotations to these various forces) that you are the one who receives these key moments in these experiences as such and you are the one attributing these various ideals. May be a little too much focus on these things. I mean afterall - there are many threads scouring this forum that say exactly that - your conscious attention to these particular moments in an experience (or the whole experience) where things FEEL negative in terms of what is seeming to be done to you on many levels in those moments, but does that really 'de facto' make them negative?

Id be willing to bet that our interpretations of these things during these experience is extremely narrow (mine included) and to post completely on one side of the fence and stake your claim that these entities/forces/ moments in the experience as something concrete and being one-sided, imo, is highly limiting and imo - much a hindrance.

The thing is - if you were in a hypothetical situation with a murderer or rapist - there's a high probability that if things turned for the worse you would be in a mountain of more trouble (high probability of being maimed or dead) than say - getting paddywomped by a transient entity/force that resides within a 10 minute smoked dmt experience (or a 3-4 hour oral experience), no?

There's tools outside of the psychedelic experience that 'can' infinitely shape your life and how you perceive/deal with these entities/forces. I've said it so many times - a nice yogic kriya or just some simple asanas that span a 45 minute window; or even just simple breath meditation done over 45 minutes to an hour. These things done CONSISTENTLY will transform your relationship - not just with yourself, they will transform how you deal with life on the daily and they will most certainly transform these intense psychedelic states and how you perceive/deal with them and what may come up.

I agree with tseuq though. Not so much a 'love' for me, but an acceptance of what transpires during those transient multifaceted moments. Submitting myself to get ripped apart, being shown terrible things, my deepest fears, horrors; the highs and the lows - all the feelings - both in the gutter and in the stars.

Im worked with DMT and it's various preparations for 6, almost 7 years; many many experiences, many terrifying, many highly malevolent, many high ecstatic/euphoric, utter incomprehensible bliss. I've had experiences where I was begging for it to stop - for normal everyday consensus reality to fully form back so I could pull myself from that temporary wonderhorror show.

But guess what .. I wouldn't take any of it back, I don't see them in any way negative or diminishing, especially to my current state and place in life. Im the happiest i've been in a long time, and knowing that like life - these experiences and what they present are temporary, and feeling immense gratitude for every single facet that i've been shown - I don't regret a single moment of any of those experiences, and that the silver lining of the ineffable always resides - even in the darkest moments.

It's all really beautiful when you think about it.

 

[Infectedstyle]

sn't it possible that you yourself may be going a little too far spacexplorer when you're equating malevolent entities in a temporary experience in an altered state of consciousness to rapists and murderers of everyday consensus reality?

Not having read ur entire post...

I don't think so because, police (his example was a bit too much) are not allowed to shoot people dead. This is just in case. The goal is to rehabilitate the murderer/rapist.

When a criminal wants me dead. I do not often stop to think and deal with his past. I do take note with any criminal and demons that these are not bad people per say. But when that demon is a direct threat my first intent is to stop him at any cost. Murderer/raper/demon is all the same to me. his analogy seems fitting.

 

[tseuq]

Don't you think that's going a little too far? Are you also welcoming rapists and murderers and malevolent entities that wish you harm into your space because your "pure love"? Hippies did the pure love thing too...police still shot them. Jesus still got killed so did John Lennon and others who proclaimed "pure love". You know pure love doesn't seem to protect you? Are you fully willing to be killed by what you invite in at all times?

If someone/-thing wants to harm me, I respect and set free, I am freedom.

I take it as it comes, fully engaged in the now, living and creating. I appreciate.
I am the sweet spot of my experience, I am love, I am infinity.

@Tattvamasi; Yoga practices maybe transformed your relationships and seem to be very useful for many people. I really enjoy them when I do but my regularity seems to be rather loose. I do more climbing, it combines many things I like.

I am active meditation. It is less about what I do, more how I do it.

tseuq

 

[spacexplorer]

Well if it works and yeah infectedstyle, hyperspace fool probably went down in a heavenly blaze of glory angels on every side shooting out blasts of holy light from a giant sword of flames at a gigantic black parasite entity until they both took each other out. Hopefully he's not gone forever and he's just recovering or something

 

[Infectedstyle]

I actually met an entity on mushrooms that he describes. And had a conversation about what the "Entities" think of him. Even they think he's a nutter. The vibe I got is that he's considered a weirdo but respected. Or more seriously, an eizenganger. He was described as someone they do not have in control.

Some of these entities are closer connected to us than we think. I think

 

[spacexplorer]

I actually met an entity on mushrooms that he describes. And had a conversation about what the "Entities" think of him. Even they think he's a nutter. The vibe I got is that he's considered a weirdo but respected. Or more seriously, an eizenganger. He was described as someone they do not have in control.

Some of these entities are closer connected to us than we think. I think

He seems pretty lucid in his posts and isn't it good that he's not under anyone's control? should he be? Also, what's an eizenganger

 

[Infectedstyle]

Indeed. But his ideas are different from the entities ideas. That is what I think I "felt" in the telepathic response. I think it's normal to be a little contemptuous of someone whose ideas are not the same as urs. That is, if you consider ur ideas to be more correct.

Eizneganger. Is german for a loner! That's what I thought it was spelled like before I googled it.

 

[Ryusaki]

The word you are searching for is "Einzelgänger".
Einzeln = single/apart/isolated from Eins = one.
gang = path/walk

literally: one who walks alone

 

[Infectedstyle]

Einzeln- Ah okay, Nice!

 

[spacexplorer]

Indeed. But his ideas are different from the entities ideas. That is what I think I "felt" in the telepathic response. I think it's normal to be a little contemptuous of someone whose ideas are not the same as urs. That is, if you consider ur ideas to be more correct.

Eizneganger. Is german for a loner! That's what I thought it was spelled like before I googled it.

It's good to know there's loners like hyperspace fool out there exploring those fringe boundaries

 

[Shenzi]

Has anyone here had extensive experiences with angelic beings such as the arch angel Michael? if so I have A very important but potentially perilous request to make. I'm in a really tough situation but for certain reasons taking a trip into hyperspace to call on these beings seems dangerous. Can anyone help me?

 

[Pixar]

It took me awhile to come to understand them. It started with the gnomes, playful entities that expressed love and joy. Then it was my anxiety which I first encountered on DMT as a writhing little maggot but that I managed to confront and appreciate on a mushroom trip. Then I encountered a loving female presence while on Rue + smoked DMT followed by a dark raging entity trapped behind a thin fleshy film.

A couple of days later while on LSD I realized I'd been repressing anger towards my father and called him to let him know how I feel. This was when I started to put the pieces together.

As I see it the gnomes are my inner child, long forgotten but now remembered. The writhing thing my anxiety which I hadn't been paying attention too, long underappreciated. The loving female entity (mother Gaia as I came to think of her) was my anima, or the female aspect of myself. The raging entity was anger I repressed for thirty years (fully justified anger by the way).

After this I started to work on reconnecting with my emotions.

On my most recent expedition, first time with oral DMT, I encountered a dark entity in a trench coat wearing a hat who would pop in, says something, and then pop out. I realized that he was the skeptical part of myself and that he serves a purpose, to keep me grounded. I also encountered the predator aspect of myself, which was quite terrifying at first. I moved into it and explored it so I would be better able to recognize him when he pops up in daily life.

Basically I have this theory that when we repress our feelings we're too busy fighting them to recognize them and that that's when we're in danger of getting carried away by them. When we stop, ask ourselves why they exist, what they're trying to tell us, and accept that they're part of the human condition we can relax, appreciate them for what they are, and integrate them back into ourselves.

Or to put it in more mystical terms. You 'combat' dark entities with love, acceptance, and appreciation. Then the demons really become angels.

Agree 100 %

Love the "bad" entities and they will become "good". Scary shit doesn't have to be inherently bad, only you make it so.

 

[Infectedstyle]

Made a +1 with my personal demons. Have found useage for HYGIENE, INCENSE, MENTAL LOVE.