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How to use Timewave Zero

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blue_velvet

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Can someone please explain to me how to use McKenna's Timewave Zero software. How to read the graphs or anything else useful. This has been vexing me.
 
get yourself the invisible landscape book by the mckenna brothers. theres a really good description of it there.
 
Oh snap! I have it in pdf, but I quit reading it. I couldn't stomach Dennis McKenna's chemistry rambling.
 
If you are referring to Peter Russels's "White Hole In TIme " theory, in his Book "Waking up in Time" it referrs to the curve of leaps in technological and perhaps knowledge and concious evolution to the point where it becomes infinite at it's apex. Personally in an infinite universe the point at which the infiite sum of teh equation would begin the next recursive numerical string's start thus signifying a new cycle if you will. 2012 sounds like a great time due to teh Myan calendrical ending point of this cycle in teh winter solstice of december but could still be coincidence if one were skeptical and believed not everything happens for a reason. The theory is sound and teh math seems correct even though its a merger of physics and mathematics which always seem to be fickle bedfellows with bad communication skills. IMHO I do believe in teh fundamentals of it but cant quite see it happening in 4 years. Perhaps there is a flaw in the root due to the lack of historical verity and data corruption through the primitive medias used and teh flawed interpretation on that data. Also teh prerequisites to consider a discovery to be of significance and thus being used as part of the equation. Afterall how does one guage a discovery to be worthy of use in the equation.

So unless there is a serious discovery, technology or concious epiphany on a such grand scale that would allow for an exponential leap from our still oversized gap between science and spirituality, I don't see the near cataclysmic or utopian ramifications of the the equations sum coming to fruition. At least not in the literal sense teh theory states. Which leads me back to my original postulation of it just beginning anew age or cycle that restarts teh clock so to speak and thus teh algorithmical recursive move to a new direction in which to start teh historical timeline and its rate of change or discovery. But what do I know, this is all predicated on the ignorant conscious mind of a human..Np more than a paramecium in the cosmic scheme of things. Afterall where all just a bunch of little parasites on this organism we call earth and have yet to do anything to better it. Perhaps that is teh leap we need and giving back to gaia to form a symbiotic relationship that works both ways rather than just working as a cancer and taking from her.
 
You make a good point, Noetic. I'm ultimately skeptical of the whole 2012. The functions he uses for the Timewave Zero software involve I Ching patterns and numerology. I have yet to fully understand it, but it's fascinating that a system of numbers used in civilizations past to predict the future could possibly be proven to predict the future, however nonspecific those predictions may be.

What makes me seriously consider this theory is the research in quantum physics and consciousness evolution. Theories involving our universe and a possible metaverse suggest that our universe is not the first. Ervin Laszlo in his book "Science and the Akashic Field" states that there is an information field that pervades all matter, energy, and even space. This "Akashic" field is nonlocal and informs all of existence. Thus, universe after universe are supposedly "aware" of what became of the previous universes. They evolve through each others laws, becoming more and more complex. Now, we exist in a universe in which our laws of physics make organic life possible.

With our human concept of time we can see that this evolution is exponential. It's impossible to comprehend how long it has taken for our universe to arrive. You could go back infinitely. Science has estimated our universe to be around 15 billion years old. If I'm not mistaken, the Earth is about four or five billion years old. I have no idea when life appeared, but I'm assuming it must have been in the past billion or so years. Then, in the hundreds of millions of years for animals such as our hominid ancestors to arrive. About 3 million years from apes to humans and tens of thousands of years to develop the advanced science and technology that we possess at present.

Evolution has shown itself to be exponential. This aligns with McKenna's idea of compression of the timewave and novelty or whatever. Of course it approaches zero at 2012 because it always has. Infinitely. 2012 is where the graph curves too steeply for the event of evolution to be rationally observed. This is why it seems as if the world (as we know it) ends. The y=0 (in the model, anyway) is where we are headed. In typical mathematics we ignore values after a set amount of significant figures, depending on the measuring equipment. They are regarded negligible and the number is rounded accordingly. However, if existence (and in our human minds, time) continue infinitely, each consecutive value is significant. Infinitely.

The funny thing about infinity how hard it is for something so seemingly finite as a human to comprehend. You can't look at infinity. If you stand directly in front of a sheet of paper 100 x 100 miles, you can't possibly see the whole sheet of paper as it is. Just the same, with your human eyes you can't see a single atom as it is.
 
Perhaps there are infinite universes occupying an infinite number of time values. The universe of right now would be only slightly different than the universe of one second ago, but drastically different than the universe of 100 trillion years ago. In this case, the metaverse would be ultimately transcendent of time as it would occupy every moment. It would be transcendent of space as well. Its nonlocality could make it synonymous with the so called Akashic field.

Our evolution could feasibly make the leap to utopia in 2012, but probably if that universe were different. If the laws changed.
 
KUSHMASTER said:
Sooo...... does anybody know how to use it?
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I have no idea, Kushmaster. Lorax's suggestion of using The Invisible Landscape was unrewarding for me. Too much math. It doesn't really explain how to use it in a practical matter. I don't know what the novelty values mean. There's no point of reference. I wish it had a help file or something.

Tool fan I see. They (in conjunction with Bill Hicks) are initially responsible for my interest in all this shit.
 
Hm, that´s an interesting question, I would say. I´ve been solving TWZ ever since I discover it. Last year, I solve it. So I know what will happen in the next time. For example, You will read this post. :lol: Nope, sry, just kidding. Let´s get back to hc science.
Basically, it´s an mathematical model. So You have to use academical, fractal mathematics. Then, it is a part of a complex, serious anthropological theory called ,theory of time as a fractal wave´ proving humans are downloaded to DMT reality.
Any questions?

But agree, Invisible landscapes are unreadable. Twice times try, never succed. :)
 
blue_velvet said:
You make a good point, Noetic. I'm ultimately skeptical of the whole 2012. The functions he uses for the Timewave Zero software involve I Ching patterns and numerology. I have yet to fully understand it, but it's fascinating that a system of numbers used in civilizations past to predict the future could possibly be proven to predict the future, however nonspecific those predictions may be.

What makes me seriously consider this theory is the research in quantum physics and consciousness evolution. Theories involving our universe and a possible metaverse suggest that our universe is not the first. Ervin Laszlo in his book "Science and the Akashic Field" states that there is an information field that pervades all matter, energy, and even space. This "Akashic" field is nonlocal and informs all of existence. Thus, universe after universe are supposedly "aware" of what became of the previous universes. They evolve through each others laws, becoming more and more complex. Now, we exist in a universe in which our laws of physics make organic life possible.

With our human concept of time we can see that this evolution is exponential. It's impossible to comprehend how long it has taken for our universe to arrive. You could go back infinitely. Science has estimated our universe to be around 15 billion years old. If I'm not mistaken, the Earth is about four or five billion years old. I have no idea when life appeared, but I'm assuming it must have been in the past billion or so years. Then, in the hundreds of millions of years for animals such as our hominid ancestors to arrive. About 3 million years from apes to humans and tens of thousands of years to develop the advanced science and technology that we possess at present.

Evolution has shown itself to be exponential. This aligns with McKenna's idea of compression of the timewave and novelty or whatever. Of course it approaches zero at 2012 because it always has. Infinitely. 2012 is where the graph curves too steeply for the event of evolution to be rationally observed. This is why it seems as if the world (as we know it) ends. The y=0 (in the model, anyway) is where we are headed. In typical mathematics we ignore values after a set amount of significant figures, depending on the measuring equipment. They are regarded negligible and the number is rounded accordingly. However, if existence (and in our human minds, time) continue infinitely, each consecutive value is significant. Infinitely.

The funny thing about infinity how hard it is for something so seemingly finite as a human to comprehend. You can't look at infinity. If you stand directly in front of a sheet of paper 100 x 100 miles, you can't possibly see the whole sheet of paper as it is. Just the same, with your human eyes you can't see a single atom as it is.
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Sceptical about 2012? :shock: Hm, hm...
 
The next bifucation point along the timewave zero paradigm is due around the 20th of March this year. This correlates with a "turn" in the ever tightening spiral. Be interesting to see if anything major happens between the 15-25th of March.
 
It's funny to see how science like quantum physics and string theory are just getting closer to what the yogi's have said thousands of years ago :) Just in a different way and not with the formulas used today.
 
The thing about the whole timewave zero thing, and this is by Dennis's own admission, is that the very definition of "novelty" is entirely arbitrary. You or I or anyone else could have a completely different idea of what "novelty" means. So something "interesting" happening around march 20th, for instance, would depend on what "interesting" means to you. Therefore the timewave is not scientific.

BTW I have read and understood invisible landscape. It's a fascinating read but ultimately not the scientific discovery most would like it to be.

However it is interesting to note that by Terrence's definition of novelty, he aligned the timewave so that it just so happens to collapse on winter solstice of 2012. He claims he did this right before learning of the mayan calendar and all the other crazy astronomical shit pointing towards something "interesting" happening on that date.

So the synchronicity of Terrence picking that date without knowing about others also picking that date is, to me, the most "interesting" thing about the whole timewave dilly.

Also the synchronicity surrounding my own personal discovery of it all (came across McKenna and the timewave thing at the same time as a flurry of personal experiences were also making me thing the eschaton is on its way).

So perhaps we cannot "prove" anything with this, but through personal experience it seems as if the universe has been telling me and many others that there may indeed be something to this. But it's all personal, nothing objective that "proves" anything...

Yet...

(BTW Tool also got me started on this whole thing...)😉
 
Novelty is defined as a ,means of connectivity´, whatever that means, haha.

Spending too much time solving TWZ not to think it´s wrong.

Evidence is everywhere, but spice smokers seem not to bother with serious study.
 
I tried to make sense of the TWZ back in mid-nineties, and I came to the conclusion that there must be some sort of mistake in Terence's exposition.

Later on, I think it was Peter Meyer, who pointed out that the math was flawed. The theory was revised and the software was built upon that, but for me TWZ lost much of its credibility.

However, the fact remains that 2012 is a significant date in Mayan calendar, and the meme has spread so widely that the expectation of something happening may very well shape things to some extent.
 
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